New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » September 16th, 2019, 2:29 pm

MartinSH4321 wrote:
September 16th, 2019, 1:41 pm
100m PB - 14,7

Finally reached the sub-15-goal by far, much better than expected. Did 2 "warm ups" at 15,1 with about 5 min rest between.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
0:14.7 100m 1:13.5 881 3333 53

Very happy with this effort, but still more in me I think.
Wow! 881 watts?!?! r53?!?!?! Wow!!!
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by max_ratcliffe » September 16th, 2019, 9:21 pm

MartinSH4321 wrote:
September 16th, 2019, 1:41 pm
100m PB - 14,7

Finally reached the sub-15-goal by far, much better than expected. Did 2 "warm ups" at 15,1 with about 5 min rest between.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
0:14.7 100m 1:13.5 881 3333 53

Very happy with this effort, but still more in me I think.
Awesome stuff, Martin. Well done.
Dangerscouse wrote:
September 16th, 2019, 2:29 pm
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Wow! 881 watts?!?! r53?!?!?! Wow!!!
Agreed. These figures are insane.
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » September 17th, 2019, 1:20 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
September 16th, 2019, 2:29 pm
MartinSH4321 wrote:
September 16th, 2019, 1:41 pm
100m PB - 14,7

Finally reached the sub-15-goal by far, much better than expected. Did 2 "warm ups" at 15,1 with about 5 min rest between.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
0:14.7 100m 1:13.5 881 3333 53

Very happy with this effort, but still more in me I think.
Wow! 881 watts?!?! r53?!?!?! Wow!!!
max_ratcliffe wrote:
September 16th, 2019, 9:21 pm
MartinSH4321 wrote:
September 16th, 2019, 1:41 pm
100m PB - 14,7

Finally reached the sub-15-goal by far, much better than expected. Did 2 "warm ups" at 15,1 with about 5 min rest between.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
0:14.7 100m 1:13.5 881 3333 53

Very happy with this effort, but still more in me I think.
Awesome stuff, Martin. Well done.
Dangerscouse wrote:
September 16th, 2019, 2:29 pm
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Wow! 881 watts?!?! r53?!?!?! Wow!!!
Agreed. These figures are insane.
Thank you mates! :D
As you may expect at R53 my "rowing technique" was more like fast deadlifting, but it was effective :lol:
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » September 17th, 2019, 1:27 am

hjs wrote:
September 16th, 2019, 1:43 pm
MartinSH4321 wrote:
September 16th, 2019, 1:41 pm
100m PB - 14,7

Finally reached the sub-15-goal by far, much better than expected. Did 2 "warm ups" at 15,1 with about 5 min rest between.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
0:14.7 100m 1:13.5 881 3333 53

Very happy with this effort, but still more in me I think.
Nice! Certainly more to come, given your training aimed at fitness and not so much speed. Looking good for a sub 1.20 500
Thank you Henry!
Yeah, it was really surprising to be so fast as almost no speed training for a while, I also almost reached my LP PB with 4 strokes in a row with no deadlifting for about a year, crazy :D
I would expect my fitness is still too weak for sub 1:20 500, but with some weeks of speed training I can't be too far away I guess B)
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by hjs » September 17th, 2019, 3:08 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 1:27 am
hjs wrote:
September 16th, 2019, 1:43 pm
MartinSH4321 wrote:
September 16th, 2019, 1:41 pm
100m PB - 14,7

Finally reached the sub-15-goal by far, much better than expected. Did 2 "warm ups" at 15,1 with about 5 min rest between.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
0:14.7 100m 1:13.5 881 3333 53

Very happy with this effort, but still more in me I think.
Nice! Certainly more to come, given your training aimed at fitness and not so much speed. Looking good for a sub 1.20 500
Thank you Henry!
Yeah, it was really surprising to be so fast as almost no speed training for a while, I also almost reached my LP PB with 4 strokes in a row with no deadlifting for about a year, crazy :D
I would expect my fitness is still too weak for sub 1:20 500, but with some weeks of speed training I can't be too far away I guess B)
No not direct now, but with a bit of training directed to it. Same for this 100m. Nomatter what direction, but if you do a specific block you always improve.

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » September 17th, 2019, 6:50 am

2KM intervals led to an unofficial PB attempt that knocked 7s off :D

7:16.2 1:49.0@28

Although it does make me realise that my overall target of sub 7' is a LOOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG way off. :? I'll bask in this minor win for a bit for now.
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » September 17th, 2019, 8:29 am

winniewinser wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 6:50 am
2KM intervals led to an unofficial PB attempt that knocked 7s off :D

7:16.2 1:49.0@28

Although it does make me realise that my overall target of sub 7' is a LOOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG way off. :? I'll bask in this minor win for a bit for now.
Good work, with 2 hard 2k's before this attempt I don't think sub7 is so far away, you're definitely on the right track :D
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » September 17th, 2019, 8:41 am

winniewinser wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 6:50 am
2KM intervals led to an unofficial PB attempt that knocked 7s off :D

7:16.2 1:49.0@28

Although it does make me realise that my overall target of sub 7' is a LOOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG way off. :? I'll bask in this minor win for a bit for now.
I agree with Martin, sub 7 isn't as far off as you think. PBing after two 2k intervals isn't easy so you have done really well here. How bad / good did it feel?

Mental strength and belief is a powerful force in a sub 7 2k, so start believing and envisaging yourself doing it. I think you can get circa 7:12 right now, it won't be easy but it's within your grasp.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » September 17th, 2019, 8:49 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
September 16th, 2019, 1:41 pm
100m PB - 14,7

Finally reached the sub-15-goal by far, much better than expected. Did 2 "warm ups" at 15,1 with about 5 min rest between.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
0:14.7 100m 1:13.5 881 3333 53

Very happy with this effort, but still more in me I think.
Sub 15 seconds - yikes! I don't even think I can get to the 1:13 pace let alone have that be the average. Nice work!
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » September 17th, 2019, 9:33 am

KeithT wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 8:49 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
September 16th, 2019, 1:41 pm
100m PB - 14,7

Finally reached the sub-15-goal by far, much better than expected. Did 2 "warm ups" at 15,1 with about 5 min rest between.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
0:14.7 100m 1:13.5 881 3333 53

Very happy with this effort, but still more in me I think.
Sub 15 seconds - yikes! I don't even think I can get to the 1:13 pace let alone have that be the average. Nice work!
Thanks Keith, no idea where this extra power came from but I'm very happy with that result :D
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by philjoakley » September 17th, 2019, 9:36 am

bobtherower wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 5:49 am
Thanks to Dangerscouse for recommending to give 6kms a new try.

Indeed, the final time worked out nicely, despite still feeling a bit sick (stomach still bothering me :x)

Image

Didnt enjoy a single second though :lol:
Great effort Bob. Nicely paced at well.
Age: 48 Height: 6ft 4 ins: HWT PB: 1000:3:19.1 2000:6:55.9 5000: 17:58.6 30mins: 8016m Started rowing in June 2019

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » September 17th, 2019, 11:27 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 8:29 am
Good work, with 2 hard 2k's before this attempt I don't think sub7 is so far away, you're definitely on the right track :D
Thanks Martin....it's invigorated my thoughts for the plan and will certainly make me stick with it.
Dangerscouse wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 8:41 am
I agree with Martin, sub 7 isn't as far off as you think. PBing after two 2k intervals isn't easy so you have done really well here. How bad / good did it feel?

Mental strength and belief is a powerful force in a sub 7 2k, so start believing and envisaging yourself doing it. I think you can get circa 7:12 right now, it won't be easy but it's within your grasp.
Thanks.....near and yet so far maybe :wink:
I'd also done a bodycombat session with the little lady last night so didn't go into this feeling like it was going to go like this.......I was able to walk if that a gauge for the effort but my breathing was somewhat strained for a good while after. I think there is more in the tank and this is one step closer to understanding what I might be capable of. It was good to come up against 2km now too as I was starting to have a phobia of that distance.

On the downside, I 'think' I might be be overusing my arms/body vs my legs in the drive. Not sure I am brave enough for a video yet so I'll do some self assessment.

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » September 17th, 2019, 2:31 pm

winniewinser wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 11:27 am

On the downside, I 'think' I might be be overusing my arms/body vs my legs in the drive. Not sure I am brave enough for a video yet so I'll do some self assessment.
I used to have the same issue. I found low rates and alternating a dominant leg in the drive really helped. You still use both legs, but there is a definite dominance of one or other leg, and I did left, right, both, repeat.

This gave me a better mind connection with my legs and got me used to really pushing, rather than pulling, in the drive. If your suspicion is based on not having much lactic build up in your legs, I still don't get loads of it so it might just be your physiology is better at clearing it.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » September 17th, 2019, 4:08 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 2:31 pm
winniewinser wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 11:27 am

On the downside, I 'think' I might be be overusing my arms/body vs my legs in the drive. Not sure I am brave enough for a video yet so I'll do some self assessment.
I used to have the same issue. I found low rates and alternating a dominant leg in the drive really helped. You still use both legs, but there is a definite dominance of one or other leg, and I did left, right, both, repeat.

This gave me a better mind connection with my legs and got me used to really pushing, rather than pulling, in the drive. If your suspicion is based on not having much lactic build up in your legs, I still don't get loads of it so it might just be your physiology is better at clearing it.
My legs do feel worked but I was still walking afterwards. I feel aches in my shoulders and back a bit and have been told I pivot my body too early.... probably initiating the catch with that movement.

I'll try the things you mention above and do a few technique sessions.

Cheers Stu
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Erik A » September 17th, 2019, 8:40 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 2:31 pm
winniewinser wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 11:27 am

On the downside, I 'think' I might be be overusing my arms/body vs my legs in the drive. Not sure I am brave enough for a video yet so I'll do some self assessment.
I used to have the same issue. I found low rates and alternating a dominant leg in the drive really helped. You still use both legs, but there is a definite dominance of one or other leg, and I did left, right, both, repeat.

This gave me a better mind connection with my legs and got me used to really pushing, rather than pulling, in the drive. If your suspicion is based on not having much lactic build up in your legs, I still don't get loads of it so it might just be your physiology is better at clearing it.
when i first started on the erg many many years ago ( the first time) i pretty much muscled it with my arms mainly. when i got back to the erg a couple of years ago i started that way then as DS says i started to do single leg pushing to make myself aware of the leg work. started adding like 5 pushes left, 5 pushes right, then 5 with both and repeat for a short session. as above its just being more dominant with the single leg not actually doing single leg drive. tends to break up a session and its quite interesting seeing the power increase when concentrating on leg works.
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