What Training Have You Done Today?

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deadlifting265
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by deadlifting265 » July 23rd, 2024, 12:19 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
July 23rd, 2024, 11:34 am
deadlifting265 wrote:
July 22nd, 2024, 3:03 pm
22/7/24(Mon)

3x5km(90secs)

15km-55.48.2-1.51.6-R21-252w

18.38.4-1.51.8-R21

18.38-1.51.8-R21

18.31.8-1.51.1-R21

Considering I've felt weak as a kitten the last few days, this felt controlled and strong.

Dropped the damper to 5 from 7 and this felt easier on the arms and legs so I think for the longer stuff, I'll keep with a lower drag.
Very good result. Nothing weak about this at all
Thanks Stu, quite enjoy the drawn out sessions.

Shame there isn't more longer races....

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by nick rockliff » July 23rd, 2024, 12:56 pm

A 45r18 for me this evening.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
45:00.0 10,559m 2:07.8 167 876 18 128
5:00.0 1,173m 2:07.8 167 876 18 115
10:00.0 1,173m 2:07.8 167 876 18 122
15:00.0 1,173m 2:07.8 167 876 18 126
20:00.0 1,173m 2:07.8 167 876 18 129
25:00.0 1,173m 2:07.8 167 876 18 129
30:00.0 1,173m 2:07.8 167 876 18 134
35:00.0 1,173m 2:07.8 167 876 18 132
40:00.0 1,173m 2:07.8 167 876 18 136
45:00.0 1,174m 2:07.7 168 877 18 137

Post holiday high HR just about back to pre holiday levels. That's taken about the same time that I was off the rower, two weeks. Just in time to go on holiday again in two weeks :lol:
67 6' 4" 108kg
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by dabatey » July 23rd, 2024, 1:24 pm

C2 Training Guide V2 Original Plan Preparation Phase Hard Week
UT1 2x20' r5...2.12/500@24spm

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
20:00.0 4,582m 2:10.9 156 836 24 140
4:00.0 917m 2:10.8 156 837 25 133
8:00.0 916m 2:11.0 156 835 24 138
12:00.0 916m 2:11.0 156 835 24 141
16:00.0 916m 2:11.0 156 835 24 143
20:00.0 918m 2:10.7 157 839 24 147
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
20:00.0 4,581m 2:10.9 156 836 24 145
4:00.0 917m 2:10.8 156 837 24 142
8:00.0 920m 2:10.4 158 842 24 145
12:00.0 917m 2:10.8 156 837 24 145
16:00.0 913m 2:11.4 154 830 24 147
20:00.0 915m 2:11.1 155 834 24 146

Completed as 2 seperate 20 minutes (obvs).
Didn't feel too bad, but I was tiring (for strength) near the end of the second interval
Age 52....Weight 61 Kg....
Row 26 Aug 21 to Mar 22. Cycle Mar 22 to Jun 24. Now mixing the 2.
2K 8.02.3 (23 Oct 21)...7.37.0(15 Mar 22)
5K 22.14 (2 Oct 21)
Resting HR 45 (was 48 in 2021)....Max HR (Seen) 182 [185 cycling]

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by bassongirl » July 23rd, 2024, 2:23 pm

I was back into training last week with 3 sessions with 30, 40 and 45 min and a 6,5k run.
But then on sunday I was at the open-air pool for 4 hours as my youngest son is learning to swim. And I got a severe ongoing spasm at my lower back being hardly able to work after my vacation :cry:. I hope it will be over soon as I wanted to give the upcoming rowlympics challenge a try.
36yo, FHWT, 1,75m, First erg March 2023
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by KeithT » July 23rd, 2024, 3:49 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
July 23rd, 2024, 4:35 am
KeithT wrote:
July 22nd, 2024, 1:17 pm
At least you thought about trying the CTC, I don't think I am going to even try it as I am not in good form for anything longer than 2K and not really in best 2K shape either. My short rows are still fine and I can push it on them but just not feeling good going hard on the longer rows.
I definitely go through patches of not performing and then being my own worst enemy as I clutch at straws with daft decisions and make it even worse. I'm currently going through one of these, and I seem to recall that you have similar issues like this too.

What's worked for me in the past is to ease off, do some steady and low end grey zone rowing with no expectations just to keep it all ticking over. It always passes eventually, but trying to fight it head on isn't a good option, for me at least
Yes, we often have dealt with same struggles - what is worrisome is I seem to have these issues more frequently as I keep getting older. My body seems to fight me more and my patience is lower which makes my mental game weaker.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » July 24th, 2024, 12:34 am

KeithT wrote:
July 23rd, 2024, 3:49 pm
Yes, we often have dealt with same struggles - what is worrisome is I seem to have these issues more frequently as I keep getting older. My body seems to fight me more and my patience is lower which makes my mental game weaker.
There's no way of knowing if this is the thin end of the wedge and it will keep getting worse, or it's just another obstacle for you to overcome. Admittely, a bigger obstacle and a lot more problematic than before, manageable nevertheless.

Maybe doing what Rocky has done, and start looking at your best efforts as an age group rather than overall will be helpful? I'm reluctant to accept that I won't achieve the results I could do only a few years ago, but I maybe do need to do exactly that. Easing the pressure can be a potent force if it's channeled in the right direction.

Having read that after 40yo we start to decline, as a general rule, it's maybe relevant that there's a best before date on all of us, but it's an arbitrary process that doesn't neatly fit into a box of where we want it to be as the mind and the body are opposing forces.

If it is just your mental fortitude that is the issue, then we both know that can be worked on and needs constant reassurance and development. Confidence is a febrile matter but we both know you can master it like you've done before. If that is now at a slightly lower level remains to be seen, but it's within your reach, admittedly maybe now with a slightly higher price to pay to achieve it.
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » July 24th, 2024, 3:54 am

1:00:00.0 15,481m 1:56.2 223 1066 22 148
30:00.0. 7,468m 2:00.5 200 988 20 137
r: 2:00 33m
20:00.0 5,251m 1:54.2 235 1107 24 157
r: 2:00 28m
10:00.0 2,762m 1:48.6 273 1240 28 166
r61m

I was intending on doing a steady longer distance, but I don't think that treating myself with kid gloves is working at the moment, so I need to try another tactic.

I was wondering where the tipping point would be, and it turned out to roughly halfway through the last 10 mins interval. I backed off and then ramped it for the last few hundred metres. It was a good mental battle for the last five minutes, as it could have ended very differently
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by winniewinser » July 24th, 2024, 5:56 am

Hi folks....restarting....again.....after training disruptions from illness, injury and holidays. Still working through the BPP for some structure but the weeks off set me back and I'm still on Week 10. Hope all is well with everyone.

Last night's 3x2km/4'r.....target was 1:54.5 from back in May.....2 holidays and a cold ago :roll: . Lots of mental chatter before committing to the 3rd piece as the mental fortitude is not quite there.

22:38.5 6,000m 1:53.2 241 1130 26
7:36.6 2,000m 1:54.1 235 1109 25
7:31.8 2,000m 1:52.9 243 1135 27
7:30.1 2,000m 1:52.5 246 1145 28

Plodding along
6'2" 52yo
Alex
Recent 2k - 7:19
All time 2k - 6:50.2 (LW)

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Sakly » July 24th, 2024, 6:50 am

winniewinser wrote:
July 24th, 2024, 5:56 am
Hi folks....restarting....again.....after training disruptions from illness, injury and holidays. Still working through the BPP for some structure but the weeks off set me back and I'm still on Week 10. Hope all is well with everyone.

Last night's 3x2km/4'r.....target was 1:54.5 from back in May.....2 holidays and a cold ago :roll: . Lots of mental chatter before committing to the 3rd piece as the mental fortitude is not quite there.

22:38.5 6,000m 1:53.2 241 1130 26
7:36.6 2,000m 1:54.1 235 1109 25
7:31.8 2,000m 1:52.9 243 1135 27
7:30.1 2,000m 1:52.5 246 1145 28

Plodding along
Nice to see you back on the rower B)
3rd piece was way faster than target, so take it as a win :)
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Kerry1960 » July 24th, 2024, 10:09 am

Grey(ish) zone 30 r20. Haven't done one for a while.
Not pushing too hard. Pretty sweaty today.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
30:00.0 6,815m 2:12.0 152 822 20
6:00.0 1,329m 2:15.4 141 784 20
12:00.0 1,351m 2:13.2 148 809 20
18:00.0 1,359m 2:12.4 151 818 20
24:00.0 1,371m 2:11.2 155 832 20
30:00.0 1,406m 2:08.0 167 874 21
M64 6ft 2, 1.90m,14st 4lbs (200), 90 kg, NW England
First erg Jan 2023
PBs 500m 1:34.4, 1k 3:30.9, 2k 7:32.3
5k 20:09, 6k 24:30, 30m 7310m, 30r20 7133m

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » July 24th, 2024, 11:09 am

winniewinser wrote:
July 24th, 2024, 5:56 am
Hi folks....restarting....again.....after training disruptions from illness, injury and holidays. Still working through the BPP for some structure but the weeks off set me back and I'm still on Week 10. Hope all is well with everyone.

Last night's 3x2km/4'r.....target was 1:54.5 from back in May.....2 holidays and a cold ago :roll: . Lots of mental chatter before committing to the 3rd piece as the mental fortitude is not quite there.

22:38.5 6,000m 1:53.2 241 1130 26
7:36.6 2,000m 1:54.1 235 1109 25
7:31.8 2,000m 1:52.9 243 1135 27
7:30.1 2,000m 1:52.5 246 1145 28

Plodding along
Welcome back Al. A promising start too
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by jcross485 » July 24th, 2024, 11:11 am

7/24 - 15k steady; 3 x 5k (1:00 rest for water and towel off). Finally feel like I am about back on track. HR back down to more normal levels, sweating during the session is still there but more normal compared to the last few days, and felt pretty strong with each stroke which I really contribute to deadlifting. One thing I've noticed is that resting HR is up about 6-8bpm since coming home from my work trip each night and HRV is quite a bit lower still; not sure what is going on there but something I've noticed. A lot of work responsibilities the remainder of the week and through the weekend so likely training once a day.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:02:37.7 15,000m 2:05.2 178 912 18 140

4:11.8 1,000m 2:05.9 175 903 18 128
4:11.7 1,000m 2:05.8 176 904 18 138
4:11.5 1,000m 2:05.7 176 905 18 138
4:11.3 1,000m 2:05.6 176 907 18 138
4:11.0 1,000m 2:05.5 177 909 18 139
r: 1:00 67m
4:09.0 1,000m 2:04.5 181 924 19 138
4:08.9 1,000m 2:04.4 182 924 19 140
4:08.7 1,000m 2:04.3 182 926 19 143
4:08.4 1,000m 2:04.2 183 928 19 145
4:08.3 1,000m 2:04.1 183 929 19 146
r: 1:00 74m
4:11.6 1,000m 2:05.8 176 905 18 140
4:11.4 1,000m 2:05.7 176 906 18 142
4:11.5 1,000m 2:05.7 176 905 18 143
4:11.4 1,000m 2:05.7 176 906 18 144
4:11.2 1,000m 2:05.6 177 907 18 144
r141m
M, '85; 5'10" (1.78m), 175lbs (79kg)

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by nick rockliff » July 24th, 2024, 12:20 pm

Same as yesterday with a 45r18

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
45:00.0 10,565m 2:07.7 168 877 18 125
5:00.0 1,173m 2:07.8 167 876 18 114
10:00.0 1,173m 2:07.8 167 876 18 121
15:00.0 1,174m 2:07.7 168 877 18 121
20:00.0 1,174m 2:07.7 168 877 18 124
25:00.0 1,174m 2:07.7 168 877 18 125
30:00.0 1,174m 2:07.7 168 877 18 128
35:00.0 1,174m 2:07.7 168 877 18 129
40:00.0 1,174m 2:07.7 168 877 18 133
45:00.0 1,175m 2:07.6 168 878 18 134
67 6' 4" 108kg
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Jbrown1215 » July 24th, 2024, 2:17 pm

Been a while since I posted... Hope you all are doing well, getting some solid training in, and enjoying your summers (or winters in the southern hemisphere), wherever you may be.

I took the last ~5 weeks off work and crammed it full of several trips that made the training calendar messy, but were much-needed breaks for awesome time with friends and family, and just generally good for the soul. Overall training volume in July (~200-240k) will be just over half of what it was in both May and June (~400k), but it's been great to see that my fitness has generally held up despite the decrease in both volume and the # of higher-intensity sessions.

A few highlights from the last few weeks:

CTC 6k on July 10th:

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	
20:21.8	6,000m	1:41.8	332	1441	28	171
3:23.2	1,000m	1:41.6	334	1448	28	154
3:23.8	2,000m	1:41.9	331	1438	28	163
3:25.3	3,000m	1:42.6	324	1413	28	170
3:25.1	4,000m	1:42.5	325	1416	28	176
3:25.0	5,000m	1:42.5	325	1418	28	181
3:19.3	6,000m	1:39.6	354	1517	31	185
Sub7's July ITC 5k on July 21st:

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 Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	
16:48.4	5,000m	1:40.8	341	1474	28	170
3:21.7	1,000m	1:40.8	341	1474	28	156
3:22.0	2,000m	1:41.0	340	1469	28	164
3:22.3	3,000m	1:41.1	338	1463	28	173
3:22.3	4,000m	1:41.1	338	1463	29	179
3:20.2	5,000m	1:40.1	349	1500	30	181
8x500m/3:30r on July 23rd:

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	
11:58.5	4,000m	1:29.8	483	1962	35	164
1:29.9	500m	1:29.9	482	1957	34	154
1:29.9	500m	1:29.9	482	1957	34	160
1:29.8	500m	1:29.8	483	1963	35	163
1:29.8	500m	1:29.8	483	1963	34	165
1:29.9	500m	1:29.9	482	1957	35	167
1:29.8	500m	1:29.8	483	1963	35	169
1:29.7	500m	1:29.7	485	1968	37	170
1:29.7	500m	1:29.7	485	1968	38	170
Neither the 6k nor 5k were "mid-life" personal bests, but I was nonetheless quite pleased with how relatively close they were to my PBs from the spring considering the numerous breaks from training over the last few weeks and the minimal mental prep for each of them. Knowing that I wasn't going to challenge PB territory took some of the pressure off and helped me stay more relaxed before and during the pieces.

The biggest surprise training-wise this month was yesterday's 8x500m, a Pete Plan workout I'd done several times over the past winter and spring, failing to crack a sub-1:30 average on my last attempt in early April. Having done very little sprint/interval work lately I didn't have any particular plan other than to focus on each interval one at a time, with the goal of sneaking in just under 1:30, and see how many intervals I could keep it up for. Once I had knocked out the sixth interval, as rough as things already felt at that point, I knew I had a shot to finish the workout. I had to dig deep on the 8th and final interval, probably more so than I have on any piece since my April 2k, but got the job done.

I'll return to more of a "normal" training schedule in early August once my kids are back in school and we're locked back into our normal routine and rhythm as a family. Sub7 has had a recent addition to the team who is crushing my times (he did our June ITC of 4x2k/4:00r at a 6:30 average, and turned in a 16:28 5k this month), so I need to step my game up! Until then though, I'll enjoy a couple more lighter weeks (and lots of golf!).
YT: https://shorturl.at/crBK5
Log: https://shorturl.at/acrDV
39M, 6’3”, 205lbs
500m: 1:21.5
1k: 2:58.5
2k: 6:15.2
5k: 16:35
6k: 20:18
30R20: 8610m
10k: 34:25
60': 17069m
HM: 1:15:05
FM: 2:39:21

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by deadlifting265 » July 24th, 2024, 2:40 pm

Jbrown1215 wrote:
July 24th, 2024, 2:17 pm
Been a while since I posted... Hope you all are doing well, getting some solid training in, and enjoying your summers (or winters in the southern hemisphere), wherever you may be.

I took the last ~5 weeks off work and crammed it full of several trips that made the training calendar messy, but were much-needed breaks for awesome time with friends and family, and just generally good for the soul. Overall training volume in July (~200-240k) will be just over half of what it was in both May and June (~400k), but it's been great to see that my fitness has generally held up despite the decrease in both volume and the # of higher-intensity sessions.

A few highlights from the last few weeks:

CTC 6k on July 10th:

Code: Select all

Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	
20:21.8	6,000m	1:41.8	332	1441	28	171
3:23.2	1,000m	1:41.6	334	1448	28	154
3:23.8	2,000m	1:41.9	331	1438	28	163
3:25.3	3,000m	1:42.6	324	1413	28	170
3:25.1	4,000m	1:42.5	325	1416	28	176
3:25.0	5,000m	1:42.5	325	1418	28	181
3:19.3	6,000m	1:39.6	354	1517	31	185
Sub7's July ITC 5k on July 21st:

Code: Select all

 Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	
16:48.4	5,000m	1:40.8	341	1474	28	170
3:21.7	1,000m	1:40.8	341	1474	28	156
3:22.0	2,000m	1:41.0	340	1469	28	164
3:22.3	3,000m	1:41.1	338	1463	28	173
3:22.3	4,000m	1:41.1	338	1463	29	179
3:20.2	5,000m	1:40.1	349	1500	30	181
8x500m/3:30r on July 23rd:

Code: Select all

Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	
11:58.5	4,000m	1:29.8	483	1962	35	164
1:29.9	500m	1:29.9	482	1957	34	154
1:29.9	500m	1:29.9	482	1957	34	160
1:29.8	500m	1:29.8	483	1963	35	163
1:29.8	500m	1:29.8	483	1963	34	165
1:29.9	500m	1:29.9	482	1957	35	167
1:29.8	500m	1:29.8	483	1963	35	169
1:29.7	500m	1:29.7	485	1968	37	170
1:29.7	500m	1:29.7	485	1968	38	170
Neither the 6k nor 5k were "mid-life" personal bests, but I was nonetheless quite pleased with how relatively close they were to my PBs from the spring considering the numerous breaks from training over the last few weeks and the minimal mental prep for each of them. Knowing that I wasn't going to challenge PB territory took some of the pressure off and helped me stay more relaxed before and during the pieces.

The biggest surprise training-wise this month was yesterday's 8x500m, a Pete Plan workout I'd done several times over the past winter and spring, failing to crack a sub-1:30 average on my last attempt in early April. Having done very little sprint/interval work lately I didn't have any particular plan other than to focus on each interval one at a time, with the goal of sneaking in just under 1:30, and see how many intervals I could keep it up for. Once I had knocked out the sixth interval, as rough as things already felt at that point, I knew I had a shot to finish the workout. I had to dig deep on the 8th and final interval, probably more so than I have on any piece since my April 2k, but got the job done.

I'll return to more of a "normal" training schedule in early August once my kids are back in school and we're locked back into our normal routine and rhythm as a family. Sub7 has had a recent addition to the team who is crushing my times (he did our June ITC of 4x2k/4:00r at a 6:30 average, and turned in a 16:28 5k this month), so I need to step my game up! Until then though, I'll enjoy a couple more lighter weeks (and lots of golf!).
Impressive 500m's Justin!

Can you divulge the name of the new addition to the team?

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