Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

What are you doing with your retirement savings?

Making money hand over fist by doing the _opposite_ of what economists, pension fund managers, financiers, stock brokers, and investment bankers have done over the last 10 years--and are continuing to do now.

Over the last decade, many countries, foundationas, universities, states, municipalities, companies, and individuals lost quite a bit of their accumulated capital (in penison funds, endowments, personal nest eggs, houses, etc.) and have gotten no return on their investment.

Disaster!

I made 300%, and am now in a position to make another 300% over the next 10 years.

ranger

[ranger]

All told though, I expect you will do very well because, as an athlete, you are very well trained... peaked, in fact.

Given _your_ OTW experience, training, and present goals, sure, you are concerned about your time over a head course as a whole.

I am a complete novice OTW; and this is my first race; so I'm not concerned with this at all.

OTW, I have never timed myself over any distance whatsover, even in training.

OTW, I haven't done any fast training at all--intervals by the clock, etc.

By and large, I have just been rowing easily, as I should be, working on technique.

As I said, today, my concern is just getting to the starting line, not hitting anything or losing my way, and getting to the finish line, while perhaps doing some 26 spm @ 2:05, my normal combination of rate and pace, if I get some open water.

For instance, since I don't even know how to do it, if I need to pass another boat, I just might slow down and hold my position so that I don't screw up and hurt someone else's chances for a good row.

I will also spend a good bit of time today watching where I am going.

I have never steered a boat down a course I am unfamilar with.

And I have no intention whatsoever of rowing as hard as I can!

That would be dangerous!

I suspect my HR won't be above UT2, and so 10 seconds per 500m below AT, a normal HR for a competitive 4K.

I'll wear my HR monitor so that I can check it out.

I assume that I will do _scores_ of head races before I done with my OTW rowing thirty years from now.

No reason whatsoever to try to beat the band in my first one.

I will also do just my normal three hours of training on the erg and bike before I go up to Lansing, so that I keep in the flow of my training for BIRC.

At the moment, my major goal for this year is OTErg: 6:16 at 60, not anything OTW.

My OTW goal is just to keep doing it, as one mode of cross-training for my erging, and for its future possibilities, if I continue to work on technique.

ranger

[snowleopard]

my top-ranked 2Ks over the last two years, at WR pace, without even sharpening for them;

They weren't at WR pace, otherwise they would be World Records. So we can start from the basis that one of your behavior traits is to live compulsively in an attempt to make your achievements seem more significant.

Anyway continue with your race avoidance postfest (another predictable trait). BTW, I hope you aren't going to inconvenience Byron by not turning up today. I would hate to think his handholding has been in vain.

[ranger]

my top-ranked 2Ks over the last two years, at WR pace, without even sharpening for them;

They weren't at WR pace, otherwise they would be World Records. So we can start from the basis that one of your behavior traits is to live compulsively in an attempt to make your achievements seem more significant.

Anyway continue with your race avoidance postfest (another predictable trait). BTW, I hope you aren't going to inconvenience Byron by not turning up today. I would hate to think his handholding has been in vain.

No, the 2Ks were exactly WR pace, given that I was 58 and 59 years old, not 55.

Veterans decline at a rate of 1.7 years over 2K.

Other than my own WR rows (when I was 52), no male veteran WR over the last 10 years has been set by anyone over the entering age in a category (50, 55, 60, etc.).

If I break Rocket Roy's 55 lwt WR at BIRC 2010, even by a tenth of a second, it will be _wildly_ unprecedented, given that I am only a couple of months shy of 60 years old.

If I break Roy's record by 10-15 seconds, it will be amazing, gobsmackingly good.

And if I reach my goal of 6:20 and break Roy's record by 15-20 seconds, well, my gosh, folks, it will be hard to know what to say.

If I do that, I suspect that it will never be done again--ever, by anyone.

ranger

[snowleopard]

No, the 2Ks were exactly WR pace, given that I was 58 and 59 years old, not 55.

The WR for 56, 57, 58 and 59 yo ergers does not exist outside of your desperate, needy, trolling, whining, whisky-soaked brain. Which bit of "age group" (55-59 yo) do you struggle to understand?

You are NOT the WR holder. And if you want to play fast and loose with the rules you had better take into account Roy Brook's unratified 6:34.

[auerli]

If I break Rocket Roy's 55 lwt WR at BIRC 2010, even by a tenth of a second, it will be _wildly_ unprecedented, given that I am only a couple of months shy of 60 years old.

If I break Roy's record by 10-15 seconds, it will be amazing, gobsmackingly good.

And if I reach my goal of 6:20 and break Roy's record by 15-20 seconds, well, my gosh, folks, it will be hard to know what to say.

ranger

...and if there will be another DNS at BIRC 2010, well, it will be the same old (expected) shit by the unprecedented forum clown...

But why seek far afield... - are we going to see another DNS today, too???

[KevJGK]

Kev--

Just curious:

Which behavior patterns of mine are you using to predict my performance today?

My three WR rows; my six sub-6:30 veteran 2Ks; my 3-4 hours of training a day (OTE, OTW, OTBike); my top-ranked 2Ks over the last two years, at WR pace, without even sharpening for them; or my long-standing work on technique, part of which got me to sub-6:30 when I was 55, without even sharpening for it, either, and now has me rowing perfectly (13 SPI) at low drag (118 df.), even though I am 60?

ranger

What you need to remember is that some of us have been reading the forum for many years and demonstrate a power of recollection far greater than your own.

[ranger]

Nice 15K OTErg.

Base pace (1:40 @ 28 spm, 12.5 SPI) is coming along beautifully now, once I am warmed up, and warm ups are becoming quality stuff, too, right on my UT2 target, 1:49 @ 22 spm (12.2 SPI).

Base pace is my Head of the Charles stroke, so it is exciting to be doing it on the erg, especially on a day when I will be lining up for a head race in the Windhover.

Next up should be repeat 1Ks, 1500s, and 2Ks at base pace, pushing my heart rate further and further on each rep.

Then 5K.

Then 6K.

Hey, perhaps even 10K.

My base pace is now _under_ WR 2K pace.

Base pace is 2K + 6.

AT

ranger

[ranger]

Kev--

Just curious:

Which behavior patterns of mine are you using to predict my performance today?

My three WR rows; my six sub-6:30 veteran 2Ks; my 3-4 hours of training a day (OTE, OTW, OTBike); my top-ranked 2Ks over the last two years, at WR pace, without even sharpening for them; or my long-standing work on technique, part of which got me to sub-6:30 when I was 55, without even sharpening for it, either, and now has me rowing perfectly (13 SPI) at low drag (118 df.), even though I am 60?

ranger

What you need to remember is that some of us have been reading the forum for many years and demonstrate a power of recollection far greater than your own.

Recollection, knowledge, even spite, which you seem to to have an abundance of, does you little good in rowing, Kevin.

Time to get on the erg and show what you can _do_.

That's pretty lacking at the moment.

No?

You don't seem to have a clue how to train, or even to recognize when someone else is.

Oh well.

Have you considered knitting, or crochet, to pass the time, rather than rowing?

You might find it more satisfying.

You might start here, and then proceed on to more difficult challenges presented by the art:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w45qDIM5S9Y

ranger

[ranger]

The WR for 56, 57, 58 and 59 yo ergers does not exist outside of your desperate, needy, trolling, whining, whisky-soaked brain. Which bit of "age group" (55-59 yo) do you struggle to understand?

Sure.

The talk is just a guide for my training, no substantial matter.

I'll soon be _repeating_ 2Ks under Roy's 55s lwt WR, in fact, if things keep going well, perhaps as low as 1:38/6:32 @ 30 spm.

It is good for me to keep in mind where the various age group 2K standards are, as I proceed with this sharpening.

ranger

[ranger]

What you need to remember is that some of us have been reading the forum for many years

Indeed.

We know all about you.

Pretty sad affair.

Aren't you worried about leaving such a cyber-record of yourself?

As I understand, for young kids like you, it can ruin your life chances, both in the marketplace and elsewhere.

The wrong people might log in and read about you.

I don't have to worry about such things, given my age.

I will retire pretty soon.

My work life is pretty much done.

I have already put in my 40 years in the workplace and already have the resources for a wonderfully secure, independent future, whenever I want to leave the workplace and go off on my own.

ranger

[ranger]

BTW, it will be exciting to go back to BIRC this year and challenge my own 55s lwt WR (6:42), five years later.

What I can do this year will be a nice measure on my improvement since then.

I think I will beat my own 55s lwt championship record by 20 seconds, even though I am now four years older.

That will be amazing.

Over the last three years, no 55s lwt has pulled anywhere near 6:42.6 at BIRC.

7:02.9 (2009), 6:53.6 (2008), 7:01.9 (2007)

ranger

[Byron Drachman]

Your bow number card is in my bag. We'll put the number on it once we are sure what it is. The weather is beautiful for this time of year. You will have flat water, a light tailwind, and a wide river. Life is good. Enjoy your first OTW regatta. See you in a couple of hours.

[KevJGK]

I have already put in my 40 years in the workplace and already have the resources for a wonderfully secure, independent future, whenever I want to leave the workplace and go off on my own.

Congratulations.

Although I hope your financial reporting is more accurate than your training.

Maybe soon you will feel ready to settle your debt to Henry?

By the way, best of luck with your first OTW race today.

[mrfit]

Ranger,

Of course our exchange is all in fun (does anyone take this thread seriously?). Have a great time at the regatta today. In all my head races all I remember is the enjoyment of rowing with hundreds of other rowers on a beautiful fall day.