Ranger's training thread

[mrfit]

Ranger, you said " Rowing is not talking". Yes.

Rowing is rowing and talking is talking. Perhaps that’s why they came up with the two different words, but one can talk about rowing and this talk can have various levels of quality that reflects the body of knowledge from which the speaker draws upon. Say, for instance, a given rower/talker suggests that one should row at 1:50 and 20spm as their background meters. Then say, for instance that this same person, suggests a few days later that rowing at 20spm is not necessary. What can we conclude in light of the fact that this same rower has a long history of regularly dismissing and embracing low rate rowing based on some fickle self-assessment? Do they know anything or are they just guessing? One with only remedially keen powers of observation would see that this rower/talker does not really have a solid body of knowledge to draw up or that it is in such a paradigm crisis that one should put a “under construction” sign on their mouth. That’s all I mean by you do not know what you are talking about. They lying is another thing, separate from this.

[JimR]

... If I can pull it off, in all but the formalities (e.g., doing it again at WIRC three months later), I will break six WRs simultaneously--40s lwt, 50s lwt, 55s lwt, 60s lwt, 55s hwt, and 60s hwt ...

Just curious ... I would assume that a single person can only be in one race? Do you plan aon pulling a 6:16 in six different races at BIRC?! Now that would be very impressive indeed!!!

JimR

[Byron Drachman]

If this becomes too much, I can also reduce the OTW rowing that I am doing.

This schedule will confront, head on, my two major devils over the last eight years--sharpening and making weight--by doubling my daily effort on both, while eliminating other distractions.

Translation of the Rangerspeak: There will be no OTW regattas again.

[ausrwr]

If this becomes too much, I can also reduce the OTW rowing that I am doing.

This schedule will confront, head on, my two major devils over the last eight years--sharpening and making weight--by doubling my daily effort on both, while eliminating other distractions.

Translation of the Rangerspeak: There will be no OTW regattas again.

Further translation: There will be no OTW regattas, ever. But Ranger will still be better than everyone else.

[Byron Drachman]

If this becomes too much, I can also reduce the OTW rowing that I am doing.

This schedule will confront, head on, my two major devils over the last eight years--sharpening and making weight--by doubling my daily effort on both, while eliminating other distractions.

Translation of the Rangerspeak: There will be no OTW regattas again.

Further translation: There will be no OTW regattas, ever. But Ranger will still be better than everyone else.

You and Leadville must have the more advanced Ranger decoders. My Ranger decoder is an earlier version 1.00, which doesn't work as well. Thanks for the better translation.

[ausrwr]

Only a few weeks to go and you'll be able to row sub-6:20!

Things have really sorted themselves out this morning, as far as sharpening goes. Trans: I did a trial this morning and couldn't actually get anywhere near what I said I could, so it's time to throw the toys out of the pram.

Nav is right that it is pretty hard to catch the wheel at high rates and low drag. With the back-dominated stroke that you have, that's not surprising

It is more relaxing for me with the drag about 145 df., rather than 118 df. Relaxing in terms of peace of mind telling me that I might be able to get within a bull's roar if I thump the drag up and go back to hauling anchor.

This lengthens the drive (from .55 seconds to .62 seconds), ups the pace (about four seconds per 500m at the same rate), the reduces the rate (from 36 spm to 32 spm at race pace)--simultaneously. If I talk enough it'll sound like I actually meant to do this rather than do it out of desparation.

At 145 df., I now pull 1:34 @ 32 spm (13 SPI, 10 MPS)--just naturally. Being that it's natural to row like a pigeon trying to fuck a paper aeroplane and to do that for about 10 strokes.

That's perfect rowing--in both stroking power and MPS--for a lightweight of any age. Especially when it's a 60 year old (I'll keep saying this in the vain hope that people will forget it's a while until I actually turn 60), no matter that I'm not doing many in a row.

Ratio is still 3-to-1, but now at 32 spm instead of 36 spm. It's not, but in my world it IS

.62 seconds for the drive. I have no idea how to measure to the hundredth of a second, so I'll just keep lying

1.86 seconds for the recovery. And I'll pretend that I do this every stroke and know it to the hundredth

_Very_ relaxing business. Except for all the bullshitting I have to do

Given the lower rate (32 spm rather than 36 spm), sharpening becomes a lot simpler, I think. Anything's simple if I don't actually do it

For the next month or so, the best approach, I think, is to eliminate almost all low rate rowing and do double sessions of race pace work, 1:34 @ 32 spm, in as many variations as I can dream up, followed by a 90min ride on my bike after each session. I have totally shat myself and realise I need to do as much high rate work as possible, but I won't call this sharpening

If this becomes too much, I can also reduce the OTW rowing that I am doing. I'll just try and forget my plans to win HOCR and be the best 60+ ever and...

This schedule will confront, head on, my two major devils over the last eight years--sharpening and making weight--by doubling my daily effort on both, while eliminating other distractions. Forgetting that my devils are failure to perform, to show up, or to get on the machine at all

Then in November, I can up the rate and do AN work like 8 x 500m, 1:30 @ 36 spm (13 SPI). Hence, I'll be booking my ticket with Porcine Airways for BIRC

Well, here goes. Yep, more blather. This is going to be an UNPRECEDENTED effort, even from me.

It looks as though, at BIRC 2010, I am going to try to take 200 perfect strokes: 13 SPI, 10 MPS, 32 spm, 1:34. Of course, I thought I'd previously try not to take any perfect strokes.

6:16 I might get through the 1500 in that time if I go off at 1:34s

If I can pull it off, in all but the formalities (e.g., doing it again at WIRC three months later), I will break six WRs simultaneously--40s lwt, 50s lwt, 55s lwt, 60s lwt, 55s hwt, and 60s hwt. That's if I can. I can't.

I hope Sir P is getting ready. I saw he's in the gym already

I think he's gonna have to shit some gold bricks. I'd better look out for my handbag then

ranger

[mikvan52]

Ranger, you said " Rowing is not talking". Yes.

Rowing is rowing and talking is talking. Perhaps that’s why they came up with the two different words,\\\ et sequelae

mrfit!
ranger is no match for you!
In the vernacular: "you slay me"!!


I expect a characteristically weak response from the "drag king"...(TSO)...

[whp4]

You and Leadville must have the more advanced Ranger decoders. My Ranger decoder is an earlier version 1.00, which doesn't work as well. Thanks for the better translation.

Don't worry about it too much. Throwing darts at a newspaper will generate text that bears about as much connection to reality as anything ranger says. He probably just has a dartboard covered with terms like "rowing well", "UT2", "sharpening", "low drag", etc. and in the bullseye a picture of whoever is the greatest cause of his personal insecurity at the moment, whether it be Mike Caviston, Mike van Beuren, NavHaz, or even you after a session on the water!

[ranger]

It is more relaxing for me with the drag about 145 df., rather than 118 df.

Well that was just about the most predictable change of mind ever!!

I'm assuming that sharpening isn't going too well Prof? Anything to report to us yet?

It's not going much at all yet.

As I report here, I am just figuring out what to do, given what I have done already.

My conclusion has been this, given 32 spm as a race rate and 13 SPI as a stroking power.

Hey, just row race pace and rate--until the cows come home.

And cross-train a lot, to avoid ending up a fat-ass who has to dehydrate to make weight.

ranger

[mikvan52]

I can also reduce the OTW rowing that I am doing.

I'll just try and forget my plans to win HOCR and be the best 60+ ever and...

Good call ausrwr!

Now we can look forward to months of nonsense from the preemptive quitter about how 145 drag came down from Mount Sinai engraved into a stone tablet with all those other pesky commandments



I like the one that says (in effect)
"thou shalt not covet thy neighbors erg score, nor his spi, nor his weigh-in-ability...

[whp4]

And cross-train a lot, to avoid ending up a fat-ass who has to dehydrate to make weight.

ranger

Looked in a mirror or uncovered the body fat reading on your scale lately? You have already ended up as a fat-ass who has to dehydrate to make weight, and your results show it. The only time you've come anywhere near your PB in the last 6 years has been when rowing with the heavyweights.

[mikvan52]

It is more relaxing for me with the drag about 145 df., rather than 118 df.

Well that was just about the most predictable change of mind ever!!

I'm assuming that sharpening isn't going too well Prof? Anything to report to us yet?

It's not going much at all yet.

As I report here, I am just figuring out what to do, given what I have done already.

My conclusion has been this, given 32 spm as a race rate and 13 SPI as a stroking power.

Hey, just row race pace and rate--until the cows come home.

And cross-train a lot, to avoid ending up a fat-ass who has to dehydrate to make weight.

ranger

Analysis:
back to the usual => high drag Plus RWB equals 6:4x 2k

Q.E.D.

Oh, Rich?
"the cows" are "home"!
Except one has a useless extra tit on its udder..

[PaulH]

As I report here, I am just figuring out what to do, given what I have done already.

What's to figure out? You've told us repeatedly that everyone sharpens about the same, with about the same effect. So do that.

[ranger]

Now we can look forward to months of nonsense from the preemptive quitter about how 145 drag came down from Mount Sinai engraved into a stone tablet with all those other pesky commandments

Nah.

I just reached out my grubby paw and jammed the drag lever up from setting 5 to setting 7.

No transcendental insight this time.



ranger

[ranger]

As I report here, I am just figuring out what to do, given what I have done already.

What's to figure out? You've told us repeatedly that everyone sharpens about the same, with about the same effect. So do that.

True.

Why didn't _I_ think of that?



ranger