Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

Then again, perhaps not and he's just a miserable fraudulent liar.

The best aren't liars, Dougie.

They earn it.

In 2003, I pulled a lwt 6:28 when I was just a couple months shy of 53.

No one has ever come close to that, before or after.

And that was as a complete novice--rowing badly (10 SPI) at max drag (200+ df.).

I am quite a bit better than that now.

I now row well (13 SPI) at low drag (118 df.).

At BIRC 2010, fully prepared, rowing well at low drag, I think I will now pull 6:20.

That will break the 40s lwt BIRC championship record.

At 60, I will outrow Caviston when he was 40.

ranger

[ranger]

Your norm, huh? Then how did you get fat? When you rowed that first erg race and discovered you were under the then-current LW world record, you weighed what? 205 lbs or some such? Were you eating lard sandwiches? Chicken-fat triple-ripple foie gras gelato, with clotted cream?

More recently, what happened between the last time you made weight and now, when you're 10 non-dehydrated pounds over?

Oh wait. You don't really do that kind of exertion. I do however believe you eat stupidly.

I am about 14% body fat.

In a month or so, I will be 10% body fat.

Only 1% of 60-year-old males are 10% body fat, and I expect that almost all of those can't row a lick.

They are skinny little ectomorphs who would be wildly unsuited for this sport.

We know how hard you work at erging, rowing, etc.

What is your % body fat?

I don't think that it is at all easy for a 60-year-old to carry both a lot of muscle and be as lean as a 20-year-old.

Do you?

Mike VB is naturally lean, but he has a hard time putting on muscle.

I am naturally muscled, but I have a hard time staying lean.

ranger

[ranger]

This reduction from 14% body fat to 10% body fat is a loss of about eight pounds of fat.

That's the equivalent of 25,000 calories.

So, sure, I will want to stay in a pretty significant caloric debt from day to day from now until the end of November.

ranger

[NavigationHazard]

I have no idea what my body fat % is, nor do I care a whit. Besides, that third twelve-pound testicle of mine throws off the calculations....

More importantly, I'm not the one who somehow needs to drop 8-10 lbs of body fat to make weight despite expending "7500 calories/day" as you claim to do. If you really were doing that kind of work per diem, every day, you'd have trouble maintaining weight. It follows that you're not really doing the work you proclaim you are, at the intensities you think you're doing it at. Now there's a novel thought....

[Flipper21]

Im getting dizzy with this thread as its spiralling fast and faster out of control.....

then again I think this is a case for Mulder & Scully......

key theme tune....

[ranger]

BTW, if I do indeed row a lwt 6:16 at 60, and the physical capacities, skills, and training regimen I now have in place are putting me in a _very_ likely position to do just that, in male age-group erging, at least, it will _completely_ outrageous.

Given the quality of both Caviston's 40s lwt WR and Hendershott's 60s hwt WR, neither of which have been remotely challenged in almost a decade now, a lwt 6:16 at 60 would best both (and the 55s hwt WR to boot) and therefore might stand permanently--forever--as better than anyone (1) the same weight but twenty years younger or (2) the same age but 100 pounds heavier.



It would be (absolutely) amazing.

ranger

[ranger]

I have no idea what my body fat % is

30%?

35%?

90 pounds of fat?

At 10% body fat, I will have 16 pounds of fat.

ranger

[ranger]

If you really were doing that kind of work per diem, every day, you'd have trouble maintaining weight.

What about you?

You do _loads_ of physical work, and compared to me, you're fat as a pig.

ranger

[ranger]

It follows that you're not really doing the work you proclaim you are, at the intensities you think you're doing it at.

No, it doesn't follow at all.





Just two loops in my 1x today.

ranger

[ranger]

ranger

[ranger]

AND SO FORTH!

ranger

[ranger]

More importantly, I'm not the one who somehow needs to drop 8-10 lbs of body fat to make weight

No, that isn't the main issue, Nav.

You would be _much_ better OTW if you werer 8% body fat.

So why not lose the weight?

Then, like me, you'd have 16 lbs. of fat, too, but you'd be 65 lbs. lighter.

Better, if you did this, you would know what you are talking about, rather than not knowing shit and just blowing off your mouth in random, uninformed, and therefore misleading ways.

ranger

[ranger]

Nav-

Then again, even if you lost 65 lbs. of fat, this year, I'd still beat you on the erg by 10 seconds over 2K on erg, and by a country mile OTW, even though you are a half a foot taller and have 40 more lbs. of non-fat body mass.

So, even if you were lean, you would have to learn how to row well (16 SPI) at low drag (118 df.) OTErg and row well (7-8 SPI) OTW to be fast.

Not much chance in that happening.

ranger

[nysaag]

Ranger, the nay-doer, will never post any meaningful training results.
Ranger, the nay-doer, will never race on the water.
Ranger, the nay-doer, will never pay Henry the money he owes him.
Ranger, the nay-doer, will never go below 6:40 on the erg.

Ranger, the nay-doer, will remain a troll.

[NavigationHazard]

Yawn. I get to eat like a horse because I pull like a horse, deliver like a horse, and am hung like a horse.

One swallow does not a summer make; one fudgsicle did not make you 10 lbs overweight. I stand by my contention that if you really had been doing 4-5 hours of exercise each and every day for the last decade -- which is what you've claimed -- you should not now need to drop body fat to make weight. You made weight last year, no? What happened between then and now? Either you spent a good deal of time eating something in excess of 7500 calories/day or else you weren't actually expending 5000 calories/day on exercise, or both.

You think you will beat my best 2k erg time this season by 10 seconds? To quote a certain wascally wabbit from Hoboken, "What a maroon!" To start with, you'd actually have to do one.