The Two Types of Training

[ranger]

Do you have some medical condition going on that you're too shy to tell us about? If you do, I apologize for asking.

Human nature?

Hunger?

Desire?

Indulgence?

It appears that almost everyone (except you?) has these "medical conditions."

I guess you're just a lucky exception..

ranger

[whp4]

pathetic!

It seems to me more and more that both standard training plans and individual coaching advice in rowing are strongly influenced by what rowing coaches must do in order to field a fleet of competent boats on short notice for a whole season of weekly regattas

For me, this concern is irrelevant.

It certainly is, because you are afraid of competition! No OTW racing, despite rowing for 7 years. And you haven't been in an erg race with any notable competitors in your age bracket since that 7:04.3 in Boston. You've got a yellow streak as wide as Michigan Stadium.

[ranger]

It certainly is, because you are afraid of competition! No OTW racing, despite rowing for 7 years. And you haven't been in an erg race with any notable competitors in your age bracket since that 7:04.3 in Boston. You've got a yellow streak as wide as Michigan Stadium.

Just trying my best in a world full of all sorts of complexities.

In 2009 and 2010, my planes didn't fly to WIRC.

Not my fault, dude.

I qualified and therefore had a ticket in hand, paid for by C2, and was in airports trying to fly to Boston, but couldn't get a plane to take me there.

Why?

Snow.

Races with "notable competitors"?

Not sure you are in with the program.

I pulled a lwt 6:28 in 2003, as a complete novice who didn't know how to row.

My project has been to get better.

The best my "notable competitors" have done is 6:38, and even so, only once.

The best these "notable competitors" have pulled at WIRC is 6:43.

Fully trained, I have no interest in pulling 6:38 or 6:43.

I am going to pull 6:16.

This year, I pulled 6:41 without even preparing for it.

The best my "notable competitors" pulled was 6:47, and even so, that wasn't at WIRC.

The best my "notable competitors" pulled at WIRC was 6:50, nine seconds slower than what I pulled this year, without even preparing for it.

The only thing that is "notable" about these competitors is how slow they are.

Fully prepared, I'll pull _waaay_ better than 6:50, 6:47, 6:42, 6:38, etc.

I'll pull 6:16.

The distance trials will tell this tale, if things like 500r30 @ 1:30 and 1Kr24 @ 1:38 didn't.

No one can do these things who can't row sub-6:30, perhaps sub-6:20.

Erg races have nothing to do with competition.

An erg race is a race against the clock.

It can be done anywhere.

What you can do in a race is entirely determined by your training.

There is no such thing as an erg racing strategy.

You just hold a steady pace and pull what your training has enabled.

ranger

[ranger]

Erg races can be done anywhere.

Just sit down on an erg and pull 2K.

If my "notable competitors" are faster, then they can just sit down on an erg and demonstrate it.

I'm waiting.

ranger

[snowleopard]

Just trying my best in a world full of all sorts of complexities.

Oh ffs you pretentious halfwit. The Dalai Lama getting to Qinghai, now that's complex. I realise though that in your case life can be difficult if you're only sober for half of it and it's tough remembering to unzip before you pee.

How complicated can your world be? You spend a good part of your life posting total crap on an obscure internet forum at times when any sane person would be asleep. You clearly have a lot of other important stuff to attend to

[ranger]

Just trying my best in a world full of all sorts of complexities.

Oh ffs you pretentious halfwit. The Dalai Lama getting to Qinghai, now that's complex. I realise though that in your case life can be difficult if you're only sober for half of it and it's tough remembering to unzip before you pee.

How complicated can your world be? You spend a good part of your life posting total crap on an obscure internet forum at times when any sane person would be asleep. You clearly have a lot of other important stuff to attend to

Snow doesn't have anything to do with attention to anything.

It just means the planes don't fly.

ranger

[ranger]

Erg races can be done anywhere.

Just sit down on an erg and pull 2K.

If my "notable competitors" are faster, then they can just sit down on an erg and demonstrate it.

I'm waiting.

ranger

[ranger]

At the moment, without even preparing for it, I outrow my "notable competitors" by about ten seconds over 2K.

When I am fully trained, that gap will be 30 seconds.

That's a _ridiculously_ large margin in a 2K.

ranger

[jliddil]

[
I pulled a lwt 6:28 in 2003.
The best my "notable competitors" have done is 6:38, and even so, only once.
The best these "notable competitors" have pulled at WIRC is 6:42.
I am going to pull 6:16.
This year, I pulled 6:41 without even preparing for it.
The best my "notable competitors" pulled was 6:47, and even so, that wasn't at WIRC.
The best my "notable competitors" pulled at WIRC was 6:50, nine seconds slower than what I pulled this year, without even preparing for it.
The only thing that is "notable" about these competitors is how slow they are.
Fully prepared, I'll pull _waaay_ better than 6:50, 6:47, 6:42, 6:38, etc.
I'll pull 6:16.
ranger

Well it is apparent to me you have no competition. I guess others just can't see this. It is very unfortunate they are such naysayers. Your "notable competitors" could learn a thing or two from you.I really look forward to seeing you pull 6;16 as that will be really awe inspiring and a really inspiration for all older people everywhere. It will further demonstrate what research has already shown that you can stay fit as you grow older. All of us in the AARP salute you.

[ranger]

You clearly have a lot of other important stuff to attend to

Yea.

Just grading papers.

On Saturday afternoon (morning, and evening).

Want to grade some for me?

50 or so five-page papers, requiring close reading, editing, and detailed comments.

Quite a bit of labor, but you're right, not very important, if you don't respect education.

I take it seriously, though, even if you wouldn't.

ranger

[ranger]

All of us in the AARP salute you.

Yikes.

If you are in the AARP, then you are _really_ an idiot.

I burn everything I get from the AARP and smile from ear to ear as it goes up in smoke.

The organization is the just a bunch of self-interested characters who would ruin the country to get what they want.

The AARP is the most unethical organization I have ever encountered.

If there is anything I can do to undermine, discredit, refute, resist, or otherwise impede the intentions of the AARP over the rest of my life, I will do it.

As de Toqueville pointed out long ago, the great danger to any democracy is that some political majority who contributes little or nothing to the well-being of the nation will vote themselves all the money.

There you have it.

The AARP.

If I can, I am going to give my social security checks back to my children.

They need it, not me.

I have already lived my life.

If I wasn't smart enough to save a little money on the way, it's my own damn fault.

My chidlren shouldn't be impoverished because of my indulgences.

ranger

[jliddil]

All of us in the AARP salute you.

Yikes.
you are _really_ an idiot.

ranger

Can't disagree with that

[ranger]

All of us in the AARP salute you.

Yikes.
you are _really_ an idiot.

ranger

Can't disagree with that

If your reference to the AARP was just a snide comment on my age, accomplishments, and goals, you might consider this:

RANKING RESULTS 2010

Indoor Rower | Individual and Race Results | 2000m | Men's | Lightweight | All Ages | Current 2010 Season

1 Henrik Victor Stephansen 21 DEN 6:03.4 RACE
2 Tamas Varga 31 HUN 6:08.1 RACE
3 Steffen Bonde Jensen 20 DEN 6:08.3 RACE
4 Morten Jørgensen 24 DEN 6:10.1 RACE
5 Jeremie Azou 20 Avignon Sn FRA 6:11.3 RACE
6 Christian Hochbruck 20 GER 6:12.6 RACE
7 Maxime Goisset 24 Dole Ac FRA 6:12.7 RACE
8 Mario Gyr 24 CHE 6:13.0 RACE
9 Lucas Tramèr 20 CHE 6:15.2 RACE
10 Eskild Balschmidt Ebbesen 37 DEN 6:15.8 RACE
11 Thomas Baroukh 22 Versailles Cn FRA 6:15.9 RACE
12 Brice Menet 30 Lille Un FRA 6:16.0 RACE
13 Patrik Joye 22 CHE 6:17.2 RACE
14 Mark Mitchell 35 Mad Team / Bexhill RC East Sussex GBR 6:18.1 RACE
15 John Preston 20 Reading Uni GBR 6:18.2 RACE
16 Silvan Zehnder 22 CHE 6:18.5 RACE
17 Simon Niepmann 24 CHE 6:18.8 RACE
18 Greg Flood 20 Notre Dame IN USA 6:19.2 RACE
19 Austin Meyer 19 Cohoes NY USA 6:19.9 RACE
20 Michael Wales 18 Seattle WA USA 6:20.6 IND

My 2K goal is 6:16.

The first American here is 6:19.2.

Denmark, Hungary, Germany, France, Chile, Great Britain.

ranger

[mikvan52]

Anyone notice that trolls post untruths just to get responses on their thread of choice?
To wit:
Rich wants someone to say:
"ranger's plane to Boston DID fly in 2010. He not only didn't qualify for the free trip, he also didn't go because he was unprepared to race. On this forum he said that he could not "afford the trip"."

... and no, a "race" cannot be done alone...

I wonder how much red wine he drinks on a Saturday afternoon? The deterioration of his typing and his paucity of wit suggests inebriation.

This "me, myself, and I" ranger thread is getting very tedious these days.
Anyone care to call another temporary moratorium on posting?
How about until the end of April? Then we can all come back and laugh when nothing has been posted (Distance Trials).

Would any one like to bet that he will do distance trials...as a lwt...?? I like to take such a bet.

[mikvan52]

I am going to pull 6:16.

Fast forward to 2020.
ranger will be saying the same thing.

Hard sharpening coming right up.
Head of the Charles victory the year after next!
All hail Reid Frawd!