Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

Not man enough to row any kind of trial?

Lancs, rowing slowly at 6-8 seconds per 500m off of what you used to do, as you are doing now, is not the height of virtue, either.

No?

I have three WR rows.

Nothing to prove there.

My work over the last few years has been on technique, in particular, increasing my stroking power.

So my emphasis hasn't been on just rowing fast.

My emphasis has been on rowing faster.

At my age, when your fitness is declining, you only row faster by increasing your stroking power, by improving your technique.

Working this increased stroking power up into trials is a new experience for me.

Uncharted territory.

So I will just feel my way along.

Sure, I intend to do some at-home 2K trials, but only when I think I am ready.

And anyway, the only "trials" that will count are my 2Ks at BIRC and WIRC.

I started some sharpening today, so this is a good.

Over the next six months, I am going to do a lot of rowing, 13 SPI @ 32 spm, in whatever formats I can dream up.

For you, the 30s lwt WR is 13 SPI @ 35.5.

Hmm.

A bunch of low rate rowing at 10.5 SPI, as you are doing now (1:55 @ 22 spm) is probably not going to do it.

ranger

[chgoss]

Not man enough to row any kind of trial?

Lancs, rowing slowly at 6-8 seconds per 500m off of what you used to do, is not the height of virtue, either.

well, NOT doing a timed piece, just so that you dont have to face the fact that the best 2k you can do today (9/1/10) isnt going to be sub 7, is no virtue either..

[lancs]

Working this increased stroking power up into trials is a new experience for me.

Well I'd hurry up and do at least something to show all your hard work has been worth it. The rate at which your anaerobic threshold is declining (which it is, whether you like it or not) means that you're times will, without exception, continue to get slower and slower. If you're not smart about things you'll struggle to get that 60s WR next year and you can pretty much forget about Roy's 55s WR right now. It's too quick for you.

And as for the dig at my current training times, fair point. But I'm enjoying getting fit again and at least I don't shy away from seeing where I am in my training..

[KevJGK]

Virtue my ass.

What you do with your training is of course your prerogative.

The point is you have stated repeatedly that you would do a 2K trial today. If you don’t want to do a 2K trial today then of course that’s fine. If you never want to do a 2K trial then of course that is also fine.

It might be an idea though to stop publicly stating ad nauseam that you are going to do a 2K trial on such and such a date and that you will post the results here. Because if you repeatedly say you are going to do something it is not unreasonable for people to expect you to do it.

[whp4]

Not man enough to row any kind of trial?

Lancs, rowing slowly at 6-8 seconds per 500m off of what you used to do, as you are doing now, is not the height of virtue, either.

No?

I have three WR rows.

Nothing to prove there.

Your former world record rows are no more interesting than all of the other now broken world records before them. You are a has-been lamely struggling to escape the shadow of your betters, whose records you are unable to match despite years of training and trying (all the while protesting that you hadn't even tried or prepared, an excuse that lost its potency for most of us when we said farewell to the elementary school playground).

So I will just feel my way along.

Sure, I intend to do some at-home 2K trials, but only when I think I am ready.

And anyway, the only "trials" that will count are my 2Ks at BIRC and WIRC.

Rowing right at your targets, fitness is great, stroke is fixed, but you aren't ready. Same shit, different season.

Over the next six months, I am going to do a lot of lying about my rowing, in whatever formats I can dream up.

Corrected for accuracy.

[DUThomas]

Because if you repeatedly say you are going to do something it is not unreasonable for people to expect you to do it.

You reasonably thought that ranger would actually do it?

[KevJGK]

You reasonably thought that ranger would actually do it?

I said if you repeatedly say you are going to do something it is not unreasonable for people to expect you to do it.

Personally I dont think ranger will ever post a training result.

[lancs]

Personally I dont think ranger will ever post a training result.

I suspect you're right on this. As far as I'm aware, he's never posted a single training/timed result other than his 2ks. I guess now that his 5k, for example, is around the 17:45 mark he won't ever post another as it's just not that impressive. Pretty sad really....

[Steve G]

Worthless piece of crap, if i say I will do something I would at least attempt it, another dns Rich.
Why do people bother trying to assist you when you throw it in their face?
Why should we know believe you will appear at BIRC and WIRC when you will be on public display, your only recent events have been small time with no splits or recorded SPM etc!

Steve

[ranger]

Worthless piece of crap, if i say I will do something I would at least attempt it, another dns Rich.

That is why you are unsuccessful as a rower, and I am successful.

Why do people bother trying to assist you when you throw it in their face?

Who can assist me?

Byron certainly can't.

Why should we know believe you will appear at BIRC and WIRC when you will be on public display, your only recent events have been small time with no splits or recorded SPM etc

Believe what you want. I am not going to BIRC and WIRC to be "on public display." I am going to BIRC and WIRC to set the 55s and 60s lwt WRs at a level that will never be bested: 6:16 at 60.

The "public" doesn't have anything to do with it--or my competition.

It is just me and the erg.

ranger

[ranger]

If you don’t want to do a 2K trial today then of course that’s fine. If you never want to do a 2K trial then of course that is also fine.

Really?

Then why is everyone eager to see me post "training results"?

Sounds as though it is not at all O.K.

ranger

[ranger]

Rowing right at your targets, fitness is great, stroke is fixed, but you aren't ready.

True.

I'm not ready.

I won't be ready for another three months.

When is BIRC?

Ah, yes,

Three months from now.

Oh well.

I guess I'll only be ready in time for BIRC instead of three months early.

ranger

[ranger]

o.k., o.k.

No more "intentions," or promises.

I'll just show up and row at BIRC and WIRC.

See you there!

ranger

[mikvan52]

(Y)ou never have to worry about it again.

Indeed.

I don't think that those who have mastered a skill need to "worry" about it again.

"Monitoring" isn't worrying.

It is just disciplined action--which is a delight.

Learning a skill is something pretty different from delighting in skillful performance, as all tennis players are painfully aware.

ranger

SO.... Rich
EXPLAIN: Why is the following is an example of mastered perfect rowing form that is both perfect for the erg and transfers well to the water.



You are truly hilarious!

A sculler cannot row this way and move a boat with anything that approaches remarkable speed... Just look at the way your hands have to go over your knees on the recovery Your blade would be forced into the water... on the recovery...
You also pause at the release... deadly (on the water) ... ok (on the erg) After all, on the erg there is no equivalent of boat momentum to kill.

Please rest assured that I don't want to criticize your Model D/E erging... But if you put that D or E on slides it would ram the stops... This would show you how ineffective a water stroke you've "perfected"... on the erg.

Another observation:
You do not maintain the paces you claim for any substantial distance on the water.. You approach is to add extra wattage at the catch and hope for the best with inferior technique. Result.. short (inconsequential) bursts of speed.

I know these are harsh words... You deserve them because of your ridiculous claims and faulty observations which you repeat endlessly as if we should think they are facts...

"I am going to BIRC and WIRC to set the 55s and 60s lwt WRs at a level that will never be bested: 6:16 at 60."

Rich. Give it up.
60 yr old lightweights will never erg 6:!6 for 2k ... everyone knows that including you.

[mrfit]

cute legs though!