The Two Types of Training

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by lancs » April 11th, 2010, 9:28 am

ranger wrote: Right now, I am doing about 20K a day of it.
Ok. What was the overall average for your last 20k session of 1:43@ 29?

The point I'm making to any forum newcomers is that Ranger still rows with breaks. He doesn't do 20k @1:43 but instead, 20k during which he occasionally sees 1:43 on the PM3. His overall average will be somewhere above the 2:00/500m mark.

As I say, I'd hate anyone to get the wrong idea.. :wink:

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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by mikvan52 » April 11th, 2010, 9:29 am

ranger wrote: For my peers....
Too funny!
:lol:

Any thoughts on why you've given up on trying to beat Roy's WR?
If I'm mistaken, which venue have you chosen to attempt to surpass Rocket's 2k 55-59 lwt time of 6:38.1?
There aren't many!

How that for peer-pressure? :wink: :)

Time's a wastin' :mrgreen:

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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by ranger » April 11th, 2010, 9:33 am

lancs wrote:His overall average will be somewhere above the 2:00/500m mark.
You mean things like 20 x 1K, 1:43 @ 29 spm (30 seconds rest)?

10 x 2K, 1:43 @ 29 spm (1 minute rest)?

Or 4 x 5K, 1:43 @ 29 spm (2.5 minutes rest)?

Or 2 x 10, 1:43 @ 29 spm (5 minutes rest)?

Ah.

Perhaps.

Great stuff.

Then you just work toward reducing, and then eliminating, those little rests.

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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by mikvan52 » April 11th, 2010, 9:41 am

ranger wrote: ... things like 10 x 2K at 1:43 (17 seconds rest)?

Ah.
Ed. Note: this,ranger's first lie, vaporized during the time it took for me to respond B) :D


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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by mikvan52 » April 11th, 2010, 9:52 am

Hey Rich:
A host of questions:

When does your new Fluid 1x get delivered?
Are you going to bother to row any OTW meters before that date?
Any estimate on your OTW meter tally for March and April '10 (so far)?
Have you thought of a name for your boat?

SInce you've announced that the hull color will be white, I have a suggestion:

How about: The White Lie :?: :wink:

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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by Byron Drachman » April 11th, 2010, 10:22 am

Any estimate on your OTW meter tally for March and April '10 (so far)?
Hi Mike,

Ranger has a Garmin Forerunner so he could push the start button when he starts rowing and push it again to stop recording when he is done. The Forerunner would record the land distance covered. Unfortunately, it would also record the awful truth: the time it took to travel the distance. So I suspect we will instead continue to get reports of great distances covered OTW and reports of HOCR-winning paces via the uncalibrated Speed Coach.

We had a nice cool morning in Michigan. It was calm on the river. I am totally fried. I got a head start and tried to beat our Olympic rower to the stairs (a landmark on our river.) It didn't work and it didn't take long before I got passed.

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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by lancs » April 11th, 2010, 10:28 am

ranger wrote: You mean things like 20 x 1K, 1:43 @ 29 spm (30 seconds rest)?

10 x 2K, 1:43 @ 29 spm (1 minute rest)?

Or 4 x 5K, 1:43 @ 29 spm (2.5 minutes rest)?

Or 2 x 10, 1:43 @ 29 spm (5 minutes rest)?
They'd be a start. But as you know, you can't do any of those either. As I say, you can't even do a single 4k at your 'distance' pace of 1:43. I just wanted to make that clear to forum newcomers..

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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by ranger » April 11th, 2010, 11:27 am

mikvan52 wrote:Hey Rich:
A host of questions:

When does your new Fluid 1x get delivered?
Are you going to bother to row any OTW meters before that date?
Any estimate on your OTW meter tally for March and April '10 (so far)?
Have you thought of a name for your boat?

SInce you've announced that the hull color will be white
Hopefully, my new boat will be delivered before I come out East. It takes about a month, after I order it.

Sure, I will be rowing OTW before that.

So far, I have only been out OTW twice for a grand total of 10K.

Right now, I can't row OTW. The seat on my Peinert has lost a wheel. A new axel for the seat of my Peinert should have arrived by now, though. (I am down in Illinois with my wife for a few days, visiting my 85-year-old father-in-law (and other friends and family members). I ordered the axel last week. I'll get back out OTW next week, when my seat is fixed. Class ends at Michigan a week from Tuesday. Then I'll have more time for hanging out OTW, both on my own and with the Ann Arbor Rowing Club.

A name for my boat?

"The Windhover"

"How it rung upon the rein of a wimpling wing in its ecstasy! Then, off, off forth on swing, as a skate's heel sweeps smooth on a bow-bend. The hurl and gliding rebuffed the big wind. My heart in hiding stirred for a bird, the achieve of, the mastery of the thing!"

etc.

from Hopkins.

I have chnaged my idea about the color.

Blue, not white.

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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by NavigationHazard » April 11th, 2010, 12:39 pm

Oooh, let's play "Name That Boat!" Possibilities:

"Absolute Zero" or "Anodyne"
"Battmobile" or "Blue Chunks"
"Chicken of the River" or "Cirrhosis of the River"
"Dee Seaver"
"Engine Failure"
"Fishkiller"
"Gluepot" or "Genuine Results"
"Hypoxia"
"In Solvent"
"Jolly Codger"
"Kooky Munga"
"Little Buoy Blue" or "Led Zeppoli" or "Loco Motion"
"Moldy Dick"
"Numb Nutter"
"Olden Ratio"
"Pizza Delivery" or "Poetry In Stasis" or "Pointy Toad" or "Prose Ack"
"Quo Vadis"
"Raven Loony" or "Reality Check"
"See Sickness"
"This Side Up" or "Toad Hull"
"Under Power"
"Vintage Whine"
"Wind In The Billows" or "Wrecked Isle Dysfunction"
"X Humed" or "X Potential"
"Y M I Slow"
"Zoo Loft"
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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by mikvan52 » April 11th, 2010, 1:27 pm

My personal favorites:
NavigationHazard wrote:Oooh, let's play "Name That Boat!"


** "Cirrhosis of the River"
** "Genuine Results"
** "Olden Ratio"
"
"The Windhover" (ranger's choice)
is v. poetic... If you get a cover for it you can call that accessory the "Wind-bag".

All kidding aside, you've chosen a great hull to maximize your speed.

Any thought about buying a decent timing device (so you can "see your (AT)" while you create tsunamis) ? :P

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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by leadville » April 11th, 2010, 3:34 pm

More names...

Mo' Lasses
IFmobile
Oaragant
Crewless
Ranger's folly
best that never was
Handledown
Checkmate
Someday
Noshow
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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by mikvan52 » April 11th, 2010, 3:44 pm

ranger wrote:
mikvan52 wrote:Hey Rich: When does your new Fluid 1x get delivered?
Hopefully, my new boat will be delivered before I come out East. It takes about a month, after I order it.
Rich:
:? :? :? Have you ordered your boat? Your syntax is impenetrable...
(getting a simple answer from Rich is like trying to milk a Norway rat)
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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by snowleopard » April 11th, 2010, 3:49 pm

leadville wrote:More names...

Mo' Lasses
IFmobile
Oaragant
Crewless
Ranger's folly
best that never was
Handledown
Checkmate
Someday
Noshow
"Oarful Truth"

(White lies are 'little' and generally well-intentioned, quite unlike ranger's specious misdirection.)

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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by PaulH » April 11th, 2010, 4:28 pm

ranger wrote: Right now, I can't row OTW. The seat on my Peinert has lost a wheel.
Is that the wheel that your wife found on April 5th, or did you lose another one? You really should take more care of your wheels...

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Re: The Two Types of Training

Post by Byron Drachman » April 11th, 2010, 5:28 pm

Mike VB wrote:Have you thought of a name for your boat?
Rocinante

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