Ranger's training thread

[mikvan52]

For BIRC, I will race as a 55s lwt.

For WIRC, I will race as a 60s lwt.

I usually get about a dozen seconds over 2K from 2-3 months of hard sharpening.

Not sure what I will get from rowing well at 118 df., but I think it will quite a bit, too.

Wish me luck!

O-KAYyyy
Good luck.
But what, pray tell, does "but I think it will quite a bit" mean?

oops, there I go with that Biblical praying again
Our go-for-the-jugular "sportsman" don't cotten to that...



FIrst, it's "sports is war". Right afterwards it's "wish me luck old sport"

So saddle-up Kimosabe... I guess it's time for gentleman-ly sport.
Fox hunting anyone?

[mikvan52]

FWIW

Kev, you fail miserably for this test try again

Forgive me but angles should be drawn from the hip sockets to the shoulder girdle..
Anyhow... why all this interest in Basalini in particular? Is he the paradigm (poster boy) for great sculling technique?

[NavigationHazard]

More apologies to Paul Simon:

Hello Forum, my old friends
I've come to hector you again
Because my vision for a six sixteen
And the details of my erg routine
And the training that I've posted in my thread
Have been misread
So it's come down to silence

In restless nights I've erged sublime
Two or three strokes at a time
On the display of my PM4
I found the force curve I've been looking for
But my legs were stabbed by the knives of a lactic burn
So I adjourned
And I've come round, to silence

And in the morning's naked light
Ten thousand erging Forumites
People rowing without breaking
People posting without faking
People erging times that I can never do
Because I'm pooh
I'm so disturbed, I'm silenced

"Fools!" said I. You do not know
Like I do now, how to row
Sprack your back that I might preach you
Haul an anchor that I might teach you
But my boasts, like drivel were ignored
So I got bored
And came around to silence

And the people laughed at me
For my boundless vainglory
And I kicked out with a warning--
From the pram my toys are coming!
And my promise is, "The prophet is arriving in November for a record row!"
Unless it snows...
In that case I'll be bound to silence.

[ranger]

But what, pray tell, does "but I think it will quite a bit" mean?

Got me.

My sharpening and racing will fill us in about this.

My major focus in September, at least in the background, will be to work on 60'r20 @ 1:49, 118 df.

If I can get this done, the improvment over what I could do in 2003 will be three seconds per 500m, even though I am seven years older.

In 2003, I did 60'r20 @ 1:52, pulling at max drag.

60'r20 @ 1:49 predicts a 6:16 2K.

ranger

[mikvan52]

Good one, Nav!
Rich truly has "visions planted in his brain"... and no one else's...

Turning to the entries for BIRC


50-54 hwt= 18
50-54 lwt= 3
55-59 hwt= 8

and.. (drum roll) ranger's division
55-59 lwt= 4

Much ado about nothin' !
Gee, I can't wait to see if Rich can beat three other ergers...

I wonder if he'll predict something "unprecedented"..... such as: I will erg as a heavy weight with a lightweight stamp and beat everyone's time regardless of weight class in the 50-59 range
This would be akin to sculling in the Grandmasters division of the HOCR where all 50's ages and weights are competing against each other.
BIRC, OTOH, has an awards scheme akin to the neighborhood dog show..
Rich will win the most fluffy comb-over division...

[mikvan52]

My major focus in September(.....)to work on 60'r20 @ 1:49, 118 df.

If I can ....

In 2003....

60'r20 @ 1:49 predicts ....

work on, my lil' sprackling...
talk on, until eternity...
post on, for our amusement...
it ain-na gon-na hap-pen... in 2010, 2011, 2012 or ever in your or my future,

I did 1:59 r.19 for 30 min the night before last... IND_V posted on the rankings...
Want me to post a screen shot?
And I am faster than you at 5k... There is absolutely zero chance of you reducing the pace by 10 sec per 500 and doubling the time.
It doesn't make the least bit of sense to even say something so insincere...

I just thought I'd get this post in before the first bottle was finished at chalet rahn-gah

[ranger]

I did 1:59 r.19 for 30 min the night before last... IND_V posted on the rankings...
Want me to post a screen shot?

Sure.

What was your HR?

What was the drag?

1:59 @ 19 spm is only 10.8 SPI.

I am now pulling 13 SPI very easily, pushing up to 14.5 SPI, when I pull hard.

The low drag has reduced my rates, increased my stroking power, and eased the effort--all in one.

I think I'll get 60'r20 @ 1:49 done before the end of September.

Then I will have my first solid predictor for a 6:16 2K.

According to the IP plan, 1:49 is UT2 for a 6:16 2K.

60'r20 is done at 2K + 15.

ranger

[aharmer]

So you're more than willing to come on here and talk about all the brilliant things you're doing and will do in the future, but not willing to actually show that you've done them? Interesting methodology.

I'm still confused because you refuse to answer...is there still a 2k planned for September 1st? For so long this was necessary as you worked toward your 6:16, yet I have a feeling you're not planning to do it.

[Byron Drachman]

...is there still a 2k planned for September 1st? For so long this was necessary as you worked toward your 6:16, yet I have a feeling you're not planning to do it.

Oh ye of little faith. Not to worry:

June 4, 2010: Distance rowing this summer. Then an at-home 6:28 2K trial on September 1st, done with good technique at 123 df., before I start to sharpen for BIRC 2010.

July 18, 2010: But I think I'll pull 6:28 as a lightweight on September 1st, before I even start to sharpen, just on the basis of distance trials. Then, as I sharpen hard for three months, the sky's the limit from there.

July 28, 2010: The schedule is to do a 6:28 2K on September 1st, before I start to sharpen.

[ranger]

I did 1:59 r.19 for 30 min the night before last... IND_V posted on the rankings...
Want me to post a screen shot?
And I am faster than you at 5k... There is absolutely zero chance of you reducing the pace by 10 sec per 500 and doubling the time.t doesn't make the least bit of sense to even say something so insincere...

When I was 53, I did 60'r20 @ 1:52, at max drag, without even knowing how to row.

That predicts a 6:28 2K, which I also did.

I pulled 6:29.7 for 2K when I was 55, without even preparing for it.

Did you?

As I remember, you pulled 6:45, fully trained.

I now row well at low drag (118 df.).

Good technique makes a difference in rowing.

Decline with age is about a second per 500m over five years.

So?

Now, rowing badly at max drag, I should pull 1:53 or so for 60'r20.

But I no longer row badly at max drag.

I row well at low drag.

Because of this, 60'r20 @ 1:49 is entirely possible.

What is "insincere" about mentioning the possibility?

Nothing at all.

To be sincere, I don't have to be as slow as you are.

Or if I do, I am happy to be so insincere.



If you can do 1:42 for 2K, you should be able to do 1:57 for 60'r20, if the row is maximal.

That's exactly the 10.8 SPI that you did for 30min at 19 spm.

60'r20 is done at 2K + 15.

ranger

[ranger]

So you're more than willing to come on here and talk about all the brilliant things you're doing and will do in the future, but not willing to actually show that you've done them? Interesting methodology.

I'm still confused because you refuse to answer...is there still a 2k planned for September 1st? For so long this was necessary as you worked toward your 6:16, yet I have a feeling you're not planning to do it.

It is clear that I can't post anything substantial about my training here.

The audience here is not at all sympathetic, or even reasonable.

So, silence is the best policy.

You'll see what I can do at BIRC.

See you there!

ranger

P.S. I'll rank any lwt trials I complete over the next six months. You can look through the rankings to see how I am doing. Obviously, you don't have any interest in training. You just have an interest in racing. So be it. The rankings collect the results of races, whether done at home (IND_V) or at race venues (RACE).

[ranger]

...is there still a 2k planned for September 1st? For so long this was necessary as you worked toward your 6:16, yet I have a feeling you're not planning to do it.

Oh ye of little faith. Not to worry:

June 4, 2010: Distance rowing this summer. Then an at-home 6:28 2K trial on September 1st, done with good technique at 123 df., before I start to sharpen for BIRC 2010.

July 18, 2010: But I think I'll pull 6:28 as a lightweight on September 1st, before I even start to sharpen, just on the basis of distance trials. Then, as I sharpen hard for three months, the sky's the limit from there.

July 28, 2010: The schedule is to do a 6:28 2K on September 1st, before I start to sharpen.

Sure.

But what I do and not during my sharpening over the next six months will no longer be reported here.

There is no sympathetic or reasonable audience for it.

So it goes.

You have "policed" your forum effectively.

Good work.

You will see what I am able to do at BIRC.

See you there!

ranger

[DUThomas]

So, silence is the best policy.

Remind me -- is this the time of year when you stomp off in a huff and swear to stop posting (but fail to follow through -- duh), or is that later?

Inquiring minds....

Cheers!

[ranger]

So, silence is the best policy.

Remind me -- is this the time of year when you stomp off in a huff and swear to stop posting (but fail to follow through -- duh), or is that later?

Cheers!

No, it's not later.

It's now.

But understandably so.

The audience here is intolerant and dismissive of any training or capabilities unlike their own.

So it goes.

See you at BIRC.

ranger

[ranger]

So you're more than willing to come on here and talk about all the brilliant things you're doing and will do in the future, but not willing to actually show that you've done them?

Not at all.

I repeat: Training is not a race.

But sure, during sharpening, and then in races, I race, just like everyone else.

So, when what are looking for (i.e., the results of races) show up in the rankings, or at races, I will have done what I have been citing as my goals.

So, just keep an eye on the rankings.

And on races.

See you at BIRC!

ranger