What Training Have You Done Today?

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jcross485
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by jcross485 » June 18th, 2025, 12:41 pm

iain wrote:
June 18th, 2025, 6:18 am
Really sorry to hear this from both of you. Embarrassed to say that the experience of the decline and death of our 13 year old Malamute hit me harder (initially) than the death of either parent despite a good close relationship to all 3.
Thank you. It's not embarrassing at all - we all have things hit differently. My dad passed two years ago and the way I have felt about that and dealt with it is different than dealing with the loss of my first dog about 6 years ago and now her son yesterday.
PleaseLockIn wrote:
June 18th, 2025, 10:58 am
Agreed, trauma is an unpredictable thing. The unshakeable good times is what keeps us grounded, it does emotionally help! Better to confront it like this than avoid it!

Good luck with your projects and rowing! If anything, sometimes you can bounce back, look back and see how you overcame unexpected difficulties!
Thanks for the kind words. I feel like we can either dwell on the loss or be thankful for what we had; if it wasn't for what we had, there would be no loss, so I try to focus on what we had. Easier said than done but I would much rather have had all the good times and deal with the loss at the end than not have any of it at all.

While the work projects have actually grown since yesterday and I will be gone for about 10 days now, I know its just a blip - as long as I'm doing something consistent and something that puts a bit of load on the body, I'll be back on the erg without really missing a beat after a session or two to clean up the technique and timing. Sometimes I think these wrinkles actually make me better overall as the erg gets a bit less stale and I am eager to attack it again.
Dangerscouse wrote:
June 18th, 2025, 11:48 am
I think Dangerspouse will be like this too, and I might surprise myself as well. I wonder if the fact that dogs are totally reliant on us, give love unconditionally, and don't intend to annoy us, make them that much more precious.
As much as they can annoy us unintentionally, it's incredible how much you can miss that annoyance when its not there. They really are amazing little creatures.
flatbread wrote:
June 18th, 2025, 12:20 pm
Dogs are often better creatures than people.
No disagreements from me here.

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It's been a wild 24 hours with a bit of a range of emotions.

When I was a sophomore in college, my roommates and I got a little 8 week old lab puppy that we were going to keep as our apartment / house dog. Clearly immature college kids who didn't think it through much as we were all athletes together on the same team...with the same practice and travel schedule. Our coach back then was pretty cool in that any time we traveled, we were allowed to take her with us provided we covered any kind of hotel costs. She traveled with our college team for a few years and frankly I can't imagine many dogs getting a similar experience.

After college, I was the only one in a position to keep her so she became mine. A couple of years after college, because we never had her spayed, I decided to breed her so I could have one of the puppies for myself - she ended up having a small litter of four; I kept one and gave the other three to family members. For a long time, it was her and her son with me and my wife, then with our oldest son. She had some health issues and ultimately had a stroke and passed when my wife was pregnant with our second son about 6 years ago now.

Our other dog, her son, went through his own little grieving process for a bit because he had never been without his mother, but he eventually came back around to being a nut like he always was. The last year or so, he came into his own health issues almost identical to his mother and based on how we found him yesterday, we assume he had a stroke as well. We took him in to his vet who confirmed and we ultimately made the choice as there was no coming back. Again, I can't imagine many dogs got the experiences he did...actually not being separated from his mom as a puppy, being part of a loving family, getting to travel a lot himself with myself, my wife, and kids, and ultimately having two boys who treated him like their third brother.

All of that said, my wife is still taking it pretty rough as I would expect. My kids are still young and seem to be pretty resilient for now. I am doing good but I also think I was a bit more mentally prepared than my wife; he wasn't in the best of health the last year or so with a more drastic decline very recently so I accepted we wouldn't have him much longer.

"Don't be sad that it's over, be glad that it happened."
M, '85; 5'10" (1.78m), 185lbs (84kg)

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by jcross485 » June 18th, 2025, 12:51 pm

Back to what this thread is about - 3k warm up, 20 x 250m (1:00 rest), 3k cool down.

The plan was to target a bit faster than 2k effort / pace while not going out too hot but also without going out too conservative. I purposely did not wear my HRM as I wanted to go on feel and effort without being distracted by HR. The last time I hit this session the average was 1:48 high / 500m; I didn't do the math but this was more than likely around there or a touch faster. Overall, it felt very good - the two words that come to mind are controlled and rhythm. Every interval was the exact same number of strokes (24) and I never felt like I was pushing outside of myself or that I was really digging in on any particular interval.

Tomorrow I have a local work project the majority of the day so I will train in the garage very early. Friday I have a work project that's about 4 hours from home; it's a one day thing so likely a long day without training but will play it by ear. Saturday will be my last day training at home for about 10 days before I travel for work again.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
41:29.1 11,000 1:53.1 242 1131 22

4:06.9 1,000 2:03.4 186 940 18
4:06.9 1,000 2:03.4 186 940 18
4:06.9 1,000 2:03.4 186 940 18
r: 1:00 45
0:51.0 250 1:42.0 330 1435 28
r: 1:00 32
0:51.0 250 1:42.0 330 1435 28
r: 1:00 42
0:51.0 250 1:42.0 330 1435 28
r: 1:00 31
0:50.9 250 1:41.8 332 1441 28
r: 1:00 31
0:50.9 250 1:41.8 332 1441 28
r: 1:00 33
0:50.8 250 1:41.6 334 1448 28
r: 1:00 34
0:50.8 250 1:41.6 334 1448 28
r: 1:00 41
0:50.8 250 1:41.6 334 1448 28
r: 1:00 35
0:50.7 250 1:41.4 336 1455 28
r: 1:00 36
0:50.6 250 1:41.2 338 1462 28
r: 1:00 35
0:50.5 250 1:41.0 340 1469 28
r: 1:00 31
0:50.5 250 1:41.0 340 1469 29
r: 1:00 39
0:50.3 250 1:40.6 344 1483 29
r: 1:00 42
0:50.3 250 1:40.6 344 1483 29
r: 1:00 43
0:50.2 250 1:40.4 346 1490 29
r: 1:00 37
0:50.2 250 1:40.4 346 1490 29
r: 1:00 37
0:50.3 250 1:40.6 344 1483 29
r: 1:00 40
0:50.1 250 1:40.2 348 1497 29
r: 1:00 34
0:50.1 250 1:40.2 348 1497 29
r: 1:00 37
0:49.9 250 1:39.8 352 1511 29
r: 2:00 34
4:06.0 1,000 2:03.0 188 947 18
4:05.9 1,000 2:02.9 188 948 18
4:05.8 1,000 2:02.9 189 948 18
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M, '85; 5'10" (1.78m), 185lbs (84kg)

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by p_b82 » June 18th, 2025, 1:14 pm

the loss of any pet is tough - as is the loss of a loved one; whether it's a sudden unexpected loss or a gradual decline also can have impacts - as can whether one has been through it before or not.
And there's def no right/wrong way to feel - maybe some wrong ways to process, but sometimes even the bad ways serve a purpose too...

My mum's going to be in bits soon, her cat is 20, he's deaf as a post - very very arthritic, and early stages of renal failure - but he's jumping up, eating properly, giving the "paw of more" when he doesn't get strokes, so is keeping on keeping on; but it really won't be for that much longer - but we've been thinking this for 18months now!

Today's work on the erg.

It's warming up down my way - and was 24-26 depending on which end of the room you read the thermometer, so figured short/sharp today better than prolonging things.

no pace in mind - or targetted, but wanted it to "feel like hard work" and I knew I'd hit my brief after 10mins - only 6W off my 5k PB pace, 2spm lower and without the big final TT kick. slightly annoyed the last split wasn't 0.2s faster though for some symmetry lol

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
20:00.0 4,847 2:03.7 185 935 25 173
4:00.0 962 2:04.7 180 920 25 158
8:00.0 970 2:03.7 185 936 26 171
12:00.0 970 2:03.7 185 936 26 177
16:00.0 970 2:03.7 185 936 25 179
20:00.0 976 2:02.9 188 948 25 183

Side note - since I've started to really perch on the front of the Citius Remex my right leg issues have vanished - might interrogate compressing a little further at the catch, but given things seem to be settled currently and leg drive engagement feels good with minimal heel lift, it might be prudent not disrupt anything!
M 6'4 born:'82
PB's
'23: HM=1:36:08.0, 60'=13,702m
'24: 10k=42:13.1, FM=3:18:35.4, 30'=7,132m
'25: 500m=1:35.3, 2k=7:39.3, 5k=20:24.3, 6k: 25:05.4
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by alex9026 » June 18th, 2025, 1:53 pm

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
42:50.8 10,000 2:08.5 165 867 35
21:30.4 5,000 2:09.0 163 860 35
21:20.4 5,000 2:08.0 167 873 37

2x5k/3:00 on the SkiErg. A comfortable session on heavy legs. Felt a little more natural than my previous outing a few weeks back, helped keeping my heels planted.
34 6'2 88kg
1:00 368m
500m 1:24.4
4:00 1282m
2k 6:24
5k 17:27
6k 20:57

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » June 18th, 2025, 2:14 pm

p_b82 wrote:
June 18th, 2025, 1:14 pm
Side note - since I've started to really perch on the front of the Citius Remex my right leg issues have vanished - might interrogate compressing a little further at the catch, but given things seem to be settled currently and leg drive engagement feels good with minimal heel lift, it might be prudent not disrupt anything!
That's great to hear that the seat pad has resolved your issue
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Sakly » June 18th, 2025, 3:00 pm

Could do an additional session on the rower in the evening. 40min straight, felt good. Still bit shortened stroke.

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	♥️
40:04.3	9,736	2:03.4	186	939	18	142
7:30.0	1,820	2:03.6	185	937	19	138
15:00.0	1,772	2:06.9	171	888	18	141
22:30.0	1,836	2:02.5	190	954	19	143
30:00.0	1,832	2:02.8	189	950	18	140
37:30.0	1,841	2:02.2	192	959	19	146
40:04.3	636	2:01.3	196	974	19	149
Needed to get off the rower in the 2nd split, so lost ca. 10s or so.
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:47:07.0
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » June 19th, 2025, 2:40 am

48:38.3 12,000 2:01.5 195 969 19 130
6:07.5 1,500 2:02.5 190 955 20 123
6:05.1 3,000 2:01.7 194 968 20 128
6:03.5 4,500 2:01.1 197 977 20 129
6:03.0 6,000 2:01.0 198 979 20 131
6:02.7 7,500 2:00.9 198 981 20 134
6:11.0 9,000 2:03.6 185 936 20 135
6:02.8 10,500 2:00.9 198 981 20 134
6:02.6 12,000 2:00.8 198 982 20 134

It felt loads better to be back on the rower than the bike, and I needed to control my ego, as I'm not used to rowing in a gym.

It went a bit wonky when I noticed my phone was slipping out of the holder and I locked it when I was trying to get it reset, so I had to stop to get it sorted out, and then I was inevitably chasing the split time.

This said it was df99, but it felt more like circa 115-120, so I'm not sure what the issue is, but it's my last row here before getting back to Cynthia and my sweatbox so it doesn't matter

$2 raised for the Juneteenth challenge too, so make sure you sign up for it and do at least 1900m
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Kerry1960 » June 19th, 2025, 12:31 pm

Did a hardish 10 x 250 1r yesterday

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
8:38.9 2,500 1:43.7 313 1377 33 139
0:52.5 250 1:45.0 302 1340 33 120
0:51.9 250 1:43.8 313 1377 32 128
0:52.1 250 1:44.2 309 1364 32 131
0:51.8 250 1:43.6 315 1383 34 135
0:51.8 250 1:43.6 315 1383 35 139
0:51.6 250 1:43.2 318 1395 34 143
0:51.6 250 1:43.2 318 1395 34 145
0:52.1 250 1:44.2 309 1364 35 148
0:52.0 250 1:44.0 311 1370 35 152
0:51.4 250 1:42.8 322 1408 35 154
r222

So today, in the high temperatures, just a gentle 5k to get my 2 dollars in for the Juneteenth challenge

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
22:34.7 5,000 2:15.4 141 784 20 126
M65 6ft 2, 1.90m,14st 8lbs (204), 92 kg, NW England
First erg Jan 2023
PBs 500m 1:34.4, 1k 3:30.9, 2k 7:31.4
5k 20:06, 6k 24:24, 30m 7348m, 30r20 7133m

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Sakly » June 19th, 2025, 1:16 pm

Juneteenth challenge as a warmup, negative splits.

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	♥️
6:55.6	1,900	1:49.3	268	1220	23	152
1:29.0	400	1:51.2	254	1174	24	140
1:28.6	800	1:50.7	258	1186	24	149
1:28.0	1,200	1:50.0	263	1205	23	155
1:26.8	1,600	1:48.5	274	1243	24	160
1:03.2	1,900	1:45.3	299	1330	24	164
Then 4 cycles of 5/5 handstand pushups - ring pullups, 10/10 pushups - horizontal ring rows with 2min rest.

To close the session, 30min rowing steady.

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	♥️
30:07.7	7,191	2:05.6	176	906	17	137
7:30.0	1,804	2:04.7	180	920	18	133
15:00.0	1,788	2:05.8	176	904	17	136
22:30.0	1,788	2:05.8	176	904	17	139
30:00.0	1,788	2:05.8	176	904	17	142
30:07.7	24	2:40.4	85	591	8	142
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:47:07.0
My log

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Jbrown1215 » June 19th, 2025, 3:23 pm

jcross485 wrote:
June 17th, 2025, 2:55 pm
Jbrown1215 wrote:
June 17th, 2025, 1:24 pm
Still in a bit of a lull motivation-wise going back to early May, but rather than beat myself up about it I recognize it as being a normal part of the cycle of ups and downs over the course of a season. In hindsight, I wonder if the death of our dog in early May also had something to do with just generally feeling a bit lethargic last month. So now, I'm making sure to, at the very least, stay in maintenance mode. I will need to submit monthly 5k TT scores from Jul-Sep as I shoot to make a masters crew for the Head of the Charles, so will soon shift my training focus towards the necessary preparations to nail a fast time.
Very sorry to hear about the family pet. It's a hard thing to deal with; I don't think anyone understands until they go through it. We went through it about six years ago with our older lab and just again this morning with our younger lab, albeit he made it to 14 this year. No matter how much we know and understand that they don't live near as long as humans in most cases, it's never easy, and similar to you, helping the kids navigate it at a young age is an additional layer.
Sorry for your loss, Jonathan. Having never had a pet prior to our dog, this was a new experience for our family. Not sure we’ll bring another pup into our home anytime soon, but we’ll cherish the memories we had with her for sure!
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40M, 6’3”, 210lbs
500m: 1:19.9
1k: 2:54.7
2k: 6:09.7
5k: 16:35
6k: 19:57
30R20: 8664m
10k: 34:07
60': 17201m
HM: 1:13:54
FM: 2:34:34

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