New to rowing. Advice on a fitness regime

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Re: New to rowing. Advice on a fitness regime

Post by Realaccount542-67 » August 23rd, 2024, 6:52 am

jamesg wrote:
August 23rd, 2024, 2:56 am
I am at 23:26 for 6000m.
That's 4.27m/s and 215W if on a C2 Ergometer. Well done. What rating did you use?
28 s/m 217 watt
Drag factor 186

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Re: New to rowing. Advice on a fitness regime

Post by Dangerscouse » August 23rd, 2024, 7:13 am

Realaccount542-67 wrote:
August 23rd, 2024, 6:52 am
28 s/m 217 watt
Drag factor 186
That's a high drag factor, have you tried using lower? I always use circa 125
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New to rowing. Advice on a fitness regime

Post by Realaccount542-67 » August 23rd, 2024, 7:46 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
August 23rd, 2024, 7:13 am
Realaccount542-67 wrote:
August 23rd, 2024, 6:52 am
28 s/m 217 watt
Drag factor 186
That's a high drag factor, have you tried using lower? I always use circa 125
Is 125 drag factor just a 3 on damper settings? I find it difficult to get the same amount of distance covered at speed as I’m on a higher damper setting. Do I just need more practice? My body is not totally accustomed to rowing.

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Re: New to rowing. Advice on a fitness regime

Post by dabatey » August 23rd, 2024, 8:17 am

A damper lever position will give different drag factor dependant on how clean a machine is. Instead....
Hit 'more options' then 'display drag factor'.
Then pull some strokes, adjust damper, pull some strokes, adjust damper till you have drag factor where you want it.
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Re: New to rowing. Advice on a fitness regime

Post by Realaccount542-67 » August 23rd, 2024, 8:22 am

dabatey wrote:
August 23rd, 2024, 8:17 am
A damper lever position will give different drag factor dependant on how clean a machine is. Instead....
Hit 'more options' then 'display drag factor'.
Then pull some strokes, adjust damper, pull some strokes, adjust damper till you have drag factor where you want it.
Shall do this next time I’m on the rower

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Re: New to rowing. Advice on a fitness regime

Post by Dangerscouse » August 23rd, 2024, 9:27 am

Realaccount542-67 wrote:
August 23rd, 2024, 7:46 am
I find it difficult to get the same amount of distance covered at speed as I’m on a higher damper setting. Do I just need more practice? My body is not totally accustomed to rowing.
The problem is the higher the drag factor the more the flywheel will slow down in between strokes, so it takes more strength and effort to get it back up to speed.

Always remember that drag factor is only a means to make you more efficient, so a higher drag isn't always the best option, and will slow you down if it's too high.
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New to rowing. Advice on a fitness regime

Post by iain » August 23rd, 2024, 10:24 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
August 23rd, 2024, 9:27 am
Realaccount542-67 wrote:
August 23rd, 2024, 7:46 am
I find it difficult to get the same amount of distance covered at speed as I’m on a higher damper setting. Do I just need more practice? My body is not totally accustomed to rowing.
The problem is the higher the drag factor the more the flywheel will slow down in between strokes, so it takes more strength and effort to get it back up to speed.

Always remember that drag factor is only a means to make you more efficient, so a higher drag isn't always the best option, and will slow you down if it's too high.
Some faults have less impact at higher drag, while too low a drag would require too high an acceleration at the start, so while 110 - 140 is the normal range for >1k, it doesn't work for all, so you need to try different settings to find what works better for you.
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Re: New to rowing. Advice on a fitness regime

Post by Realaccount542-67 » August 24th, 2024, 5:36 am

iain wrote:
August 23rd, 2024, 10:24 am
Dangerscouse wrote:
August 23rd, 2024, 9:27 am
Realaccount542-67 wrote:
August 23rd, 2024, 7:46 am
I find it difficult to get the same amount of distance covered at speed as I’m on a higher damper setting. Do I just need more practice? My body is not totally accustomed to rowing.
The problem is the higher the drag factor the more the flywheel will slow down in between strokes, so it takes more strength and effort to get it back up to speed.

Always remember that drag factor is only a means to make you more efficient, so a higher drag isn't always the best option, and will slow you down if it's too high.
Some faults have less impact at higher drag, while too low a drag would require too high an acceleration at the start, so while 110 - 140 is the normal range for >1k, it doesn't work for all, so you need to try different settings to find what works better for you.
Changed to 130. I actually think this is a lot more comfortable.

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Re: New to rowing. Advice on a fitness regime

Post by Dangerscouse » August 25th, 2024, 1:17 am

Realaccount542-67 wrote:
August 24th, 2024, 5:36 am
Changed to 130. I actually think this is a lot more comfortable.
That's not a surprise, and you might find a bit less is better, but have a play around with it to find what works best for you.
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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