Estimating 2km time from other pieces - any anecdotes ?

[Dangerscouse]

Yeah, I find a notable difference between 500s, 750s and 1ks, which can be a mental challenge as much as an aerobic / anaerobic challenge.

Imo, a 500 it doesn't really start to bite until circa 300m left, even in an interval session, which is mentally manageable, but possibly not physically manageable as it can certainly be a world of pain.

It's a totally different feeling when you're struggling with 700m to go in a 1k as there's no mental comfort blanket. That's what I think you need to get used to and to find a coping strategy for. As Henry says, 500s will test you anaerobically a bit too much and there is a phrase "500s for pose, longer distances for pro's". Yanking out a 500 at 2k- 2/3 may look good but I'm not convinced there is much transferable benefit.

[ukaserex]

After a year of endurance work (15 years ago) I planned 2ks using the French protocol, which won me two golds and a silver in Europe, mostly due to lack of competition. My ½-2k times were 1:36-7:10, which is 395-280W, so about -30% in Watts, +12% ½k time.

This method gives the four paces for a 2k plan, and can be used 2-3 days before a race. It's probably not as efficient as flat pacing but is well suited to regattas with more than one race per day, since we slow down early and may not need to wind it up at the end. It corresponds to how I raced afloat.

http://www.fibrarowingteam.it/2000m%20R ... ration.pdf

A really interesting chart. A year ago, in New Orleans, I came in 2nd in the 500m with 1:25.1 and that beat my previous pr by a couple of seconds. I haven't been able to match that performance yet - but I haven't rowed in front of a crowd since. (small, but a crowd just the same) But the predictor for my 2k on the same day would be a dream for me. I got 6:38.4 and haven't been able to match that again either. Still, I think it might be worth using the chart as small goals to chase through the effort. Even I go slower, it's 7 minutes or less of misery. I can handle some misery for a brief time like that, I should think.

[hjs]

After a year of endurance work (15 years ago) I planned 2ks using the French protocol, which won me two golds and a silver in Europe, mostly due to lack of competition. My ½-2k times were 1:36-7:10, which is 395-280W, so about -30% in Watts, +12% ½k time.

This method gives the four paces for a 2k plan, and can be used 2-3 days before a race. It's probably not as efficient as flat pacing but is well suited to regattas with more than one race per day, since we slow down early and may not need to wind it up at the end. It corresponds to how I raced afloat.

http://www.fibrarowingteam.it/2000m%20R ... ration.pdf

A really interesting chart. A year ago, in New Orleans, I came in 2nd in the 500m with 1:25.1 and that beat my previous pr by a couple of seconds. I haven't been able to match that performance yet - but I haven't rowed in front of a crowd since. (small, but a crowd just the same) But the predictor for my 2k on the same day would be a dream for me. I got 6:38.4 and haven't been able to match that again either. Still, I think it might be worth using the chart as small goals to chase through the effort. Even I go slower, it's 7 minutes or less of misery. I can handle some misery for a brief time like that, I should think.

Based on my 500 I should have been able to pull 5.56..... Which was pretty far from my real 2k.

[Gabe_G]

I have not done any all out rows, but I have done a few hard 500m, 2K and 5K (relatively speaking, for me). I am surprised just how close the predicted times are for this calculator: https://www.freespiritsrowing.com/forum ... -predictor. They are like dead on for my non-maximal attempts.

It is possible it would be less accurate if I was well rested and went all out to get my true times, and maybe someday I will, however, rowing is secondary to lifting. I know that going all out on a 500M would probably wipe me out for the entire day, and maybe a few days after. Same with an all out 2K and 5K.