Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

Gorgeous northern air has moved into Ann Arbor.

Beautifully clear and cool this morning

Did my standard 10K OTW, just before dawn, after 15K OTErg.

Needless to say, the whole affair was much easier without the heat and humidity.

ranger

[ranger]

yes the ongoing 2003 2010 trend.........................

Nope. This year, I'll be focussed on racing rather than training. I'll race, rowing well at low drag.

Months of not getting below 75 kg

Nope. My weight is _very_ good. I should be at weight by September 1st, when I start sharpening. I will be up in Door County by myself for the next three weeks. Training camp!

blowing up 2/3 times]

Nope. This year, I'll be preparing to race for six months, from September right through until February. If I prepare to race, I row flat splits and never blow up.

ranger

[PaulH]

My sharpening and races this fall and winter will tell the story.

This fall and winter, for the first time, I will race fully trained and rowing well at low drag.

Ah, but it won't will it? There'll be some reason why this year wasn't quite the year, but just wait until next fall...

Or are you willing to state now that if you don't achieve this year it's because your experiment has failed, and that you are 'merely' what you've always been, i.e. a talented athlete in a small division of a minority sport?

[ranger]

you've been slowing down for the last 7 years

No evidence for that yet.

The evidence won't be in until the end of this racing season, when I will row--for the first time--fully trained and rowing well at low drag.

If my times this year plateau at a consistently slower pace than they were in 2003, then, yes, I have slowed down.

In 2003, I usually pulled 6:32, with some races as much as a second per 500m faster (6:28), and some races as much as a second per 500m slower (6:36).

In my 2003 races, all done as a lightweight, I rowed 6:36, 6:33, 6:30 (WR), 6:32, 6:29 (WR), 6:28 (WR), 6:32.

The races were done at Toronto, Elkhart, Boston, St. Catharines, Detroit, Birmingham, and Paris.

ranger

[Byron Drachman]

March 14, 2010: I am going to stay a stable 160 lbs. this summer so that I can kick Mike VB's butt OTW in my 1x at the Nationals.

[hjs]

yes the ongoing 2003 2010 trend.........................

Nope. This year, I'll be focussed on racing rather than training. I'll race, rowing well at low drag.

Months of not getting below 75 kg

Nope. My weight is _very_ good. I should be at weight by September 1st, when I start sharpening. I will be up in Door County by myself for the next three weeks. Training camp!

blowing up 2/3 times]

Nope. This year, I'll be preparing to race for six months, from September right through until February. If I prepare to race, I row flat splits and never blow up.

ranger

although you don,t give much evidence, you did about your weight, your pics not rowing your boat, you are plus 80 kg easily maybe even 83/85. And I know how easily you lose weight.............. NOT, if you start now witgh loosing weight, which you don,t, it will take you at least 3 months, so at best end november, but more likely begin 2011.............

The point is almost everybody is very predictable, you do just the same as the last 5 year, so the outcome will alos be the same.



when are you paying your lost bet's

[ranger]

Ah, when to the heart of man
Was it ever less than a treason
To go with the drift of things,
To yield with a grace to reason,
And bow and accept the end
Of a love or a season?

--Robert Frost, from "Reluctance."

[ranger]

it will take you at least 3 months

To lose 10 pounds?

Nah.

A month at most.

At best, three weeks.

ranger

[hjs]

it will take you at least 3 months

To lose 10 pounds?

Nah.

A month at most.

At best, three weeks.

ranger

Right if you cut off your head yes, you know the part you don,t use anyway.

[ranger]

The point is almost everybody is very predictable, you do just the same as the last 5 year, so the outcome will alos be the same.

Yea, almost everybody is predictable.

That's why there is only one winner.



This year, I will row well at low drag.

This year, I will sharpen for six months.

This year, I will stay at weight throughout the racing season.

Nothing like last year.

ranger

[chgoss]

it will take you at least 3 months

To lose 10 pounds?
Nah.
A month at most.
At best, three weeks.

so, lets quantify what it means to "lose" 10 lbs, namely:
- weigh yourself first thing in the morning, before you do anything else, to get a benchmark
- lose the weight
- verify the weight loss by weighing yourself first thing in the morning, before you do anything else

Weight loss is NOT: weigh yourself first thing in the morning to get a benchmark, go on a diet for 3 weeks, then weigh yourself post 2-3 hours of exercise and triumphantly post the pic of your Tanita scale with the body fat % cropped out.

By the real definition of weight loss, there is absolutely no way a person who currently has a body fat % less than say 15%, could lose 10lbs in a month w/out seriously compromising their fitness level.

Dont bother with the "fat doesnt make you go faster, so you can just get rid of it w/out compromising performance" argument because it's impossible (for a person currently at <15% body fat) to lose 10lbs of fat while retaining all of the muscle mass, in 3-4 weeks.

[hjs]

This year, I will row well at low drag.

This year, I will sharpen for six months.

This year, I will stay at weight throughout the racing season.

Nothing like last year.

ranger

low drag, you will try and fail and ramp it up to max

april 2011 you will say, I haven,t sharpened yet

You are way overweight again and will at best reach 75 begin 2011 for very brief moments, carrying lots of bottles of water

You will brag about you ranking 2011 although it will 25 plus second above your target is.

[hjs]

By the real definition of weight loss, there is absolutely no way a person who currently has a body fat % less than say 15%, could lose 10lbs in a month w/out seriously compromising their fitness level.

Dont bother with the "fat doesnt make you go faster, so you can just get rid of it w/out compromising performance" argument because it's impossible (for a person currently at <15% body fat) to lose 10lbs of fat while retaining all of the muscle mass, in 3-4 weeks.

To his defence his is way above 15 % at the moment.

[jliddil]

it will take you at least 3 months

To lose 10 pounds?

Nah.

A month at most.

At best, three weeks.

ranger

OK explain this to me (or anyone else). You claim that father time has had little effect on your ability to row and erg at a fast pace from the time you were 53 to now.

You claim to row OTW and erg around 20K a day if not more.

So it would seem age has had effect on your metabolism if you gain weight. And you eat a large excess of calories each day. so on one hand your power has not diminished but your metabolic rate has?

I can tell you that since the beginning of the concept2 log period (May) I have been averaging 20K a day. Look at the challenge board. All data uploaded via Rowpro. Not fast by any standard. But I am not able to maintain my weight at all. I've gone from skinny to really skinny, my sig weight says 180 I think. I am down to more like 170 now and I eat all the time.

Just another thing that does not add up.

[kini62]

ranger

Well, when "they" start having 100m, r21 races, you'll be all set.

Seriously, what does yanking the chain 7 or 8 times prove? Nothing of course. Try posting that same pace and rate for 5K or even 2K as evidence of your "superior" erging.

I won't be holding my breath.