What Training Have You Done Today?

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
Dangerscouse
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » May 19th, 2025, 9:10 am

alex9026 wrote:
May 19th, 2025, 7:36 am
A slightly harder distance piece today with a push on the final 2k. I zoned out and got thinking, there is a lot of discussion around various training bands and approaches, heart rate drift etc and in context, they're all relevant to a degree.

On paper, this was strictly too hard to be considered steady state, easy distance, UT2 yadda yadda. But for me, the beauty of endurance sport is the simplicity of listening to our body and if it's feeling good, going with what feels right.
That's exactly what I've been thinking recently. I've become too bogged down in my steady pace becoming too slow, but very incrementally so really difficult to notice, as that's what I'm 'supposed' to be doing. It's only been six days, but my theory that I'm rowing slower because I'm rowing slower too often looks like it might be valid.

I've targeted my r20 to be faster than 2:01 pace, when 2:03/4 pace was quite common, but I suspect that at the root of my problems is the simple fact that I've not been pushing hard enough, if only slightly, so my progress has stagnated or even regressed.

I need to resort to intuition more often as it's served me very well in the past.

That's also a really solid session at r20, especially that last 2k.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by flatbread » May 19th, 2025, 9:15 am

Saturday --

15k, 6 x 4:00 TR with 2min easy recoveries. Just fast enough to be TR -- 1:54, which was my 60min pace three years ago. One day at a time.

Sunday --

endurance row. 20k non-stop, then a 1k cool down

1:28:21.1 20,000 2:12.5 150 817 19 117
17:34.6 4,000 2:11.8 153 825 19 115
17:34.2 8,000 2:11.7 153 826 19 115
17:37.8 12,000 2:12.2 151 821 20 123
17:42.0 16,000 2:12.7 150 814 20 122
17:52.3 20,000 2:14.0 145 800 20 113
55, 1m84, 80kg

RHR 40, MHR 160

10k 37:56, 5k 17:52, 2k 6:52 60' 15720m (as a lightweight)

Ruin Christmas
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Ruin Christmas » May 19th, 2025, 9:46 pm

alex9026 wrote:
May 19th, 2025, 7:29 am
The difference in perceived effort a bit of airflow can do isn't to be underestimated!
So true - with my garage door open, it is better than being at the beach! (i do not like the beach much, so that is not an exaggeration)
Dangerscouse wrote:
May 19th, 2025, 4:18 am
I promise you, until I did it, I had no idea I could do it. Sometimes you'll really surprise yourself with what you're capable of with enough training and dedication.
Well I do not ever want to do some of those things, but I agree. Two months ago, I believed 5 km was a great distance and 10 km was not really feasible on a rowing machine.
Dangerscouse wrote:
May 19th, 2025, 4:18 am
As for the puddles of sweat, I'd definitely recommend a sweatband, a headband, and liquid chalk for the hands. I can more or less sweat on demand, so it's always an issue for me.
I always thought headbands were to keep hair out of your eyes. Not sure what I thought wristbands were for, I guess people with long arm hair? But now I see the light. I do use a little rock-climbing chalk bag before each piece.

Today i rowed 26.1 km. Moved to 26th in the distance list. Discovered that the guy one spot in front of me is 80.
Burn Lawson, 45M, Mississippi, USA, 170 cm 85 kg.

alex9026
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by alex9026 » May 20th, 2025, 8:06 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
May 19th, 2025, 9:10 am
I need to resort to intuition more often as it's served me very well in the past.

That's also a really solid session at r20, especially that last 2k.
That's where your experience in this sport should serve you well, been there and done it. I had a similar approach running, but there you're only ever one step away from an injury, so there has to be a little more consideration for really taking it easy some days. I like to think erg'ing is a little more forgiving, though I've never known a sport to test my "core" so much...

Thanks, I'm starting to find there is some scope to push the classic rate 20 stuff. I should test my 30r20 sometime, quite confident there is an 8300 on the cards. 8400 is a goal I have, interested to see how far off it I am.
34 6'2 90kg
1:00 368m
500m 1:24.4
4:00 1282m
2k 6:24
5k 17:27

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Sakly » May 20th, 2025, 9:18 am

Was undecided on rest day or light rowing, but after some time I thought a low rate HM could make me feel good.
Rowed it blind to not get mad about pace or whatever. Only remaining meters and HR visible.

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	❤️
1:28:00	21,097	2:05.1	179	914	18	132
10:53.4	2,638	2:03.8	184	934	18	132
10:59.6	5,276	2:05.0	179	916	18	132
11:01.3	7,914	2:05.3	178	911	19	132
11:04.9	10,552	2:06.0	175	901	18	133
11:02.9	13,190	2:05.6	176	907	18	132
11:00.9	15,828	2:05.2	178	912	19	132
11:00.0	18,466	2:05.0	179	915	19	133
10:57.5	21,097	2:04.9	179	917	19	135
Not sure if I ever had such a steady HR over a half with no drop of speed.
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:47:07.0
My log

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