The Two Types of Training

[Byron Drachman]

So, there's my Head of the Charles stroke.
70% of 330 watts is 210 watts, 1:58.6.
Sure, and then turns, wind, cold, current, obstacles, etc., all slow you down.
So that is the limit to my cruising speed OTW.

Spoken by someone who has never raced a single OTW, who has never gone under a bridge in a single, and who is still erging while most people around here are now OTW.

Cue for Ranger: I am going to meet my goals by the end of April first, then go OTW.

[mikvan52]

Rich:
As you just don't care to research OTW stuff yourself:

Click on this. Watch the video> Think about it...

http://www.row2k.com/hocr/features.cfm?ID=898

This is about the 60+ HOCR

btw: you are 59

Ialso like your ombined claims that you sculled 10k a day for 4 months last summer and somehow accumulated 1 million total meters

I'm off to row... on the water

[ranger]

speaking of things you have so little knowledge of makes you look, once again, foolish.

O.K.

If I am foolish in saying these things, then you should be able to list here at least 100 or so 60s lightweights who can pull 16:30 on the erg, but just can't be arsed because it is irrelevant to their OTW aspirations.

So the 60s lwt WR for 5K on the erg remains at a misleading 17:25, given what real OTW rowers are capable of.

ranger

[ranger]

Spoken by someone who has never gone under a bridge in a single.

As you probably know, there are lots of bridges on the Huron.

I go under bridges four to six times each time I row.

That means I have already gone under bridges thousands of times.

ranger

[ranger]

Ialso like your ombined claims that you sculled 10k a day for 4 months last summer and somehow accumulated 1 million total meters

Yep.

10K a day for four months is right around a million meters.

ranger

[Byron Drachman]

Spoken by someone who has never gone under a bridge in a single.

As you probably know, there are lots of bridges on the Huron.

I go under bridges four to six times each time I row.

ranger

Excellent! I stand corrected. I'm off to the river now.

[hjs]

When you're around these people, you can tell Benton, or Drysdale, or Campbell, that they suck because you have less of a drop-off than they do. And prepare to be laughed at, if they would even listen to your casuistic reasoning.

I get the feeling that Rupp isn't the kinda guy that would put himself in a position where he's going to be laughed at by people bigger than he. Anyway, be nice, it's not easy being small and slow

John is not slow, he was a very decent marathon runner, in the 2.20 ish if am not mistaken. His talent for erging is less that is true.

[ranger]

Spoken by someone who has never gone under a bridge in a single.

As you probably know, there are lots of bridges on the Huron.

I go under bridges four to six times each time I row.

ranger

Excellent! I stand corrected. I'm off to the river now.

I put in a quarter of a mile or so above my neighborhood, which is just a couple hundreds of yards from this bridge.

http://www.historicbridges.org/truss/maple/index.htm

ranger

[hjs]

John, perhaps you can examine why there is such a drop-off amongst athletes like Benton, which makes the best athletes in the world "suck" in your own words. For them, the priority is not long distance. It's 2k racing, and going fast there. That's why they suck so badly at 1 hour pieces. Because they don't particularly care about them. Because they are not a priority. Their training is not directed at, oh, bugger it!

My point is in reference to rowing well over distance. They do not row well over distance.

???? Very strange, there are the best in the world, nobody is better but you say the are poor??? And that based on someone who does not exist, only from hearsay.

It's the same like saying, Javier Sotomayor is the WR holder in highjump with 245, but I have heard that a dwarf did jump 2.00, so therefore that 2.45 is pisspoor and Sotomayor was a weak highhumper

[ranger]

This one, right where I put in, is especially tricky.

You have to lay down in your scull to get under it, or it will take your head off.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/barackobam ... 945195410/

ranger

[ranger]

When I row up the river from the Argo Pond, rather than down river to Barton Pond, I go under this bridge.

http://www.aadl.org/gallery/pictureAnnA ... 9.jpg.html

ranger

[hjs]

John, perhaps you can examine why there is such a drop-off amongst athletes like Benton, which makes the best athletes in the world "suck" in your own words. For them, the priority is not long distance. It's 2k racing, and going fast there. That's why they suck so badly at 1 hour pieces. Because they don't particularly care about them. Because they are not a priority. Their training is not directed at, oh, bugger it!

My point is in reference to rowing well over distance. They do not row well over distance.

They could not row well over distance if they wanted to do so.

So you say there don,t row well although nobody is able to beat them. What more can you be than the best?????

[snowleopard]

What more can you be than the best?????

Lose 30cm and 50kg. Rupp doesn't do big and fast

[mrfit]

Ranger's Ranking Countdown:

43 days

[hjs]

What more can you be than the best?????

Lose 30cm and 50kg. Rupp doesn't do big and fast

Benton is only tall, not heavy for height


John, btw, has a very respectable marathon pb, he did kick Ranger's ass big time as a runner, he was showered, dressed and had eaten before the nutty pro came in.
As a rower it is the other way around....

But john is a real natural lightweight, not like ranger who never raced below 75 kg only weight in below. Which is legal, so no complains there from me.