Sounds reasonable, good luck!KeithT wrote: ↑March 3rd, 2025, 11:01 amDid 700M at planned 1K pace over weekend along with other training. I did 250m at 1:32, 250m at 1:31 and 200m at 1:30. Now, how did I feel?.....Well, it was a pretty hard effort. Had this been the actual TT I think I could have prob switched to a sprint and kept 1:30 for a little bit but prob would have faded. My TT plan will be similar to this. Will use first 100m to drive pace down and then settle into 1:32 for 300, 1:31 for 300 and then whatever I have last 300.
What Training Have You Done Today?
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Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
even if we assume your max Hr is 205 (it might be higher, it might not) at ~8min point your Hr is 90%+ max - at that point things will generally feel tough - for me it's around 175/190 - I personally try not to look at my Hr on max efforts as it can become demoralising "I'm not even half way and already I'm at 90% etc etc"PleaseLockIn wrote: ↑March 3rd, 2025, 10:23 amTried a 22min 2:05 split r20 only for the wheels to fall off after 14 mins, after very intense glute pain. I almost gave it up, tried to hold 2:10 but gave up, then finally held ~2:05 for the last bit. *FACEPALM*
https://log.concept2.com/profile/2501432/log/98945114
Embarassing. Why at under 10 minutes did I begin failing? I need mental tips to hold on for the last bit of these kinds of workouts. I didn't even reach 200 HR! While I was working very hard, I wasn't passing out nor failing. One mental slip up can absolutely ruin it!
And from https://log.concept2.com/profile/2501432/log/98781852 I know my MHR is at least 200 (considering I got 199 even with a very long rest between intervals).
Sometimes these days just fall apart for you. Next week I should start at 2:06 and work up if I feel good. *shakes head*
Severe pain however is a warning sign to tell you something is wrong - pinched nerve, pulled muscle etc - and stopping under those sorts of circumstances isn't a "fail" but more a frustration imo.
I reckon you're hitting strength/technique limitations rather than CV side though.
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PB's
'23: HM=1:36:08.0, 60'=13,702m
'24: 5k=20:42.9, 10k=42:13.1, FM=3:18:35.4, 30'=7,132m
'25: 500m=1:35.3, 2k=7:39.3, 6k: 25:05.4
Logbook
PB's
'23: HM=1:36:08.0, 60'=13,702m
'24: 5k=20:42.9, 10k=42:13.1, FM=3:18:35.4, 30'=7,132m
'25: 500m=1:35.3, 2k=7:39.3, 6k: 25:05.4
Logbook
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You are too hard on yourself. At r20 it's more strength than cardio so your HR won't max out.PleaseLockIn wrote: ↑March 3rd, 2025, 10:23 amTried a 22min 2:05 split r20 only for the wheels to fall off after 14 mins, after very intense glute pain. I almost gave it up, tried to hold 2:10 but gave up, then finally held ~2:05 for the last bit. *FACEPALM*
https://log.concept2.com/profile/2501432/log/98945114
Embarassing. Why at under 10 minutes did I begin failing? I need mental tips to hold on for the last bit of these kinds of workouts. I didn't even reach 200 HR! While I was working very hard, I wasn't passing out nor failing. One mental slip up can absolutely ruin it!
And from https://log.concept2.com/profile/2501432/log/98781852 I know my MHR is at least 200 (considering I got 199 even with a very long rest between intervals).
Sometimes these days just fall apart for you. Next week I should start at 2:06 and work up if I feel good. *shakes head*
You should see this as a good step in your training plan and another good baseline. Unless it was an off day, this looks like your peak right now, 15 minutes at 2:05. Maybe you could do 30 minutes at 2:10 and 5-10 minutes at 2:00? So you just need to raise all those times week by week and you'll get to your goal in 6 months. 22 minutes was too long, so next week add on 30 seconds.
M 1982 6'1 205lbs
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Took a few days off the erg last week. So just a 30r20 to start the month.
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
30:00.0 7,319 2:02.9 188 947 20 129
5:00.0 1,220 2:02.9 188 948 20 123
10:00.0 1,219 2:03.0 188 946 20 125
15:00.0 1,220 2:02.9 188 948 20 128
20:00.0 1,220 2:02.9 188 948 20 132
25:00.0 1,220 2:02.9 188 948 20 135
30:00.0 1,220 2:02.9 188 948 20 135
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
30:00.0 7,319 2:02.9 188 947 20 129
5:00.0 1,220 2:02.9 188 948 20 123
10:00.0 1,219 2:03.0 188 946 20 125
15:00.0 1,220 2:02.9 188 948 20 128
20:00.0 1,220 2:02.9 188 948 20 132
25:00.0 1,220 2:02.9 188 948 20 135
30:00.0 1,220 2:02.9 188 948 20 135
67 6' 4" 108kg
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6
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It's another solid 18k in the bank.Dangerscouse wrote: ↑March 2nd, 2025, 1:02 pmI could have finished, whether I should have is another question, as it wasn't theoretically a good day, but it was a good 18k and indicator of where I currently am.
Sounds a reasonable approach, it's long enough to settle in to a target pace. Good luck, looking forward to seeing your result.KeithT wrote: ↑March 3rd, 2025, 11:01 amDid 700M at planned 1K pace over weekend along with other training. I did 250m at 1:32, 250m at 1:31 and 200m at 1:30. Now, how did I feel?.....Well, it was a pretty hard effort. Had this been the actual TT I think I could have prob switched to a sprint and kept 1:30 for a little bit but prob would have faded. My TT plan will be similar to this. Will use first 100m to drive pace down and then settle into 1:32 for 300, 1:31 for 300 and then whatever I have last 300.
I think so. Over the coming weeks hopeful of trading rate for a little extra pace.
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1min 368m 500m 1:24.4 2k 6:24 5k 17:27
1min 368m 500m 1:24.4 2k 6:24 5k 17:27
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Good plan and good luckKeithT wrote: ↑March 3rd, 2025, 11:01 amDid 700M at planned 1K pace over weekend along with other training. I did 250m at 1:32, 250m at 1:31 and 200m at 1:30. Now, how did I feel?.....Well, it was a pretty hard effort. Had this been the actual TT I think I could have prob switched to a sprint and kept 1:30 for a little bit but prob would have faded. My TT plan will be similar to this. Will use first 100m to drive pace down and then settle into 1:32 for 300, 1:31 for 300 and then whatever I have last 300.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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I know that there's a benefit to it, but it was based on the wrong type of decision. All of these great results from others have got my ego wanting to get involved, which is a poor basis for progression.
I need to be more measured and disciplined, as I do seem to be making decent progress in general. Having said that I'm terribly self-critical, so sometimes I also need to stop being so hard on myself.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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Wasn't sure how this would feel - yesterday I had some aches in some atypical places, and rowing might not have been a good idea, so popped in 20mins. (got a bi raw patch for a blister than formed under the glue of a plaster I put on over a different blister - wasn't even aware it was there, until I took the paster off and left a big red stinging circle before I showered.
Anyway - no issues with body, so ended up cranking up the pace steadily - probably could have done another split with the RPE at the end.
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
20:00.0 4,735 2:06.7 172 892 22
4:00.0 913 2:11.4 154 830 22
8:00.0 936 2:08.2 166 871 22
12:00.0 952 2:06.0 175 901 23
16:00.0 958 2:05.2 178 912 23
20:00.0 977 2:02.8 189 950 23
Anyway - no issues with body, so ended up cranking up the pace steadily - probably could have done another split with the RPE at the end.
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
20:00.0 4,735 2:06.7 172 892 22
4:00.0 913 2:11.4 154 830 22
8:00.0 936 2:08.2 166 871 22
12:00.0 952 2:06.0 175 901 23
16:00.0 958 2:05.2 178 912 23
20:00.0 977 2:02.8 189 950 23
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PB's
'23: HM=1:36:08.0, 60'=13,702m
'24: 5k=20:42.9, 10k=42:13.1, FM=3:18:35.4, 30'=7,132m
'25: 500m=1:35.3, 2k=7:39.3, 6k: 25:05.4
Logbook
PB's
'23: HM=1:36:08.0, 60'=13,702m
'24: 5k=20:42.9, 10k=42:13.1, FM=3:18:35.4, 30'=7,132m
'25: 500m=1:35.3, 2k=7:39.3, 6k: 25:05.4
Logbook