What Training Have You Done Today?

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jcross485
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by jcross485 » January 22nd, 2025, 2:54 pm

Sakly wrote:
January 22nd, 2025, 11:12 am
This is what I recognized as well yesterday. Additionally, getting the power metric wasn't happening at all. Only a few data points throughout the whole HM, so the watch calculated the power with 6W :lol:
Unfortunately, EPIX is not supported by this app. I saw it could handle skierg and bikeerg as well, but not for me.
For now I will go with the standard rowing activity and ANT+ "Trainer" sensor connection, will try the same with skierg today and use a renamed cardio activity to see what gets logged.
Probably I will ask the developer, if the app can made to support the EPIX. I think the EPIX is very similar to the Fenix.
Nothing like a 6W HM! What was your finish time, 3 days?!?

I would venture to guess they can get the app to support the Epix series for the same reasons you mention. As an aside, how do you like it? I have a Fenix 6x Pro which has served me well but part of me wants to treat myself to a new fancy gadget with new Epix Pro 2. I just don't know how much I'll get out of it that I'm not getting out of my current Fenix 6x Pro.
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by reuben » January 22nd, 2025, 3:17 pm

Sakly wrote:
January 22nd, 2025, 9:53 am
Ok, then you cannot compare the two options of course :)
You are using the approach I used before as well.
Yesterday, when I logged the session with my watch, I saw that a metric training effect and training load or something (giving an estimate for recovery time) was calculated based on the effort. This was not done for the pushed session from logbook.
Sorry, I guess I focused on the first few sentences of your post, which (to me) implied that you were having connection issues, and not enough on the subsequent sentences which implied that you had succeeded in one way or another, but were dissatisfied with the results.

My Garmin/Connect numbers are pretty much wackadoodle, as some activities are logged and not others. I get messages/alerts/whatever that I'm overtraining, and others that suggest that I'm a slug on a couch. I guess I'd need to be more in their "ecosystem" (I hate that term) to get better recommendations. But then, they'll always be imperfect recommendations based on Garmin's assumptions and incomplete data. My indoor cycling sessions are on a trainer with a builtin power meter - Garmin likes that. My outdoor rides have no such data - Garmin hates that. This seems to cause Garmin to have a fit. :lol: I have similar issues in other activities, so I just don't import a lot of stuff into Garmin/Connect.

I'm just trying to put up a decent fight as my years increase. I'm also trying to turn off my brain and just enjoy the orbits I have left.
"It's not an adventure until something goes wrong." - Yvon Chouinard

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Nomark » January 22nd, 2025, 4:55 pm

p_b82 wrote:
January 22nd, 2025, 2:13 pm
Thought I'd crack on with my "work harder" mindset all the same, so had planned to do 2:09 for as long as I could. (1hr pace target for now)
Good job just getting it done, but I'm curious about your training. Are you picking a pace that you want to hold for an hour and holding it as long as you can each week, gradually getting longer?

I'd thought about this for shorter pieces and curious if it works - e.g., say someone wanted a 7:00 2k, could they row at 1:45 for as long as possible (say 5 minutes) and build it up from there? Or attack it from the other way and row for 7 minutes and up the distance each time until it reaches 2k?

I was thinking it might be overcomplicating things, but seeing you do it has me wondering if it's a method anyone has used before
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by KeithT » January 22nd, 2025, 5:17 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
January 17th, 2025, 4:00 am
57:24.5 15,016m 1:54.6 232 1098 24 151
8:46.6 2,250m 1:57.0 218 1051 23 137
8:31.9 4,500m 1:53.7 238 1118 25 145
8:30.0 6,750m 1:53.3 240 1127 25 150
8:29.7 9,000m 1:53.2 241 1128 25 155
8:29.0 11,250m 1:53.1 242 1132 25 160
8:36.4 13,500m 1:54.7 232 1097 25 158
5:57.2 15,016m 1:57.8 214 1036 24 156

A very rare day. I can't remember a day in recent memory, when I was more demotivated to row, but still managed to row. I'm still amazed I did anything, as I stood for about 30 seconds debating it in my head.

I planned on 18k, but it quickly became something far more than I expected, until I knocked out an earbud and I had to stop to find it, which then broke the spell.

Given that only a week ago I had a cold and felt fairly rough, it's nothing to complain about that I did stop when I did.
Looks good - I did a 16K session at 1:59 and it ended up being harder than planned on a day I felt decent before rowing - so opposite of you. Crazy how this works.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by KeithT » January 22nd, 2025, 5:24 pm

Sakly wrote:
January 19th, 2025, 10:15 am
CTC today.
Mind was sharp, but body couldn't follow, what I targeted. Satisfied anyway, this gives me a ~13s PB to my (fairly) old one :)

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	❤️
17:26.2	5,000m	1:44.6	306	1351	27	170
3:28.4	1,000m	1:44.2	309	1364	28	167
3:29.0	2,000m	1:44.5	307	1355	28	170
3:29.7	3,000m	1:44.8	304	1345	28	171
3:29.8	4,000m	1:44.9	303	1343	27	173
3:29.1	5,000m	1:44.5	306	1354	29	173
Decided to go for long intervals 4x10min 3:30r at r26, suggested by #ergenduranceseries afterwards.
Negative splits, starting slow, as legs were a bit wobbly after the 5k :lol:

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	❤️
40:00.0	10,799m	1:51.1	255	1177	26	164
10:00.0	2,617m	1:54.6	232	1099	26	161
10:00.0	2,678m	1:52.0	249	1156	26	162
10:00.0	2,725m	1:50.0	262	1202	26	164
10:00.0	2,778m	1:47.9	278	1256	26	170
Need to work more on higher rate stuff...
Very impressive - was happy to see this!
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by KeithT » January 22nd, 2025, 5:28 pm

Starting to prepare for World Indoor Sprints (1K) again. I have won and also finished 2nd in year's past. I know I am not in top form but feel I might be able to squeeze out a sub 3:00 with focused training - we will see. I am farther off my best for 2K and longer but for some reason still doing OK on shorter rows and shorter intervals.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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