What Training Have You Done Today?

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
Kerry1960
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Kerry1960 » January 13th, 2025, 12:38 pm

I was due a rest day today but then noticed I was only 6523m from 1 million for the season. So that's what I did at easy ss pace.

29:16.8 6,523m 2:14.6 143 793 21
6:18.3 1,400m 2:15.1 142 788 22
6:18.0 2,800m 2:15.0 142 789 21
6:16.4 4,200m 2:14.4 144 795 21
6:16.9 5,600m 2:14.6 144 793 21
4:07.3 6,523m 2:13.9 146 801 21
M64 6ft 2, 1.90m,14st 4lbs (200), 90 kg, NW England
First erg Jan 2023
PBs 500m 1:34.4, 1k 3:30.9, 2k 7:32.3
5k 20:09, 6k 24:30, 30m 7310m, 30r20 7133m

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by alex9026 » January 13th, 2025, 12:53 pm

KeithT wrote:
January 13th, 2025, 9:46 am
Decent training over weekend but think I need to change my routine some. I have been working legs and back with weights on Fridays and then Saturdays doing harder interval sessions on the Erg and I can tell my legs are lacking some energy. In the past this didn't seem to bother me but recently the leg work seems to be depleting my strength for the interval sessions. So may swap my other upper body weight day for the leg/back day.
Have you got scope to pair up your strength work with a lighter session on the Erg? Giving you another day in the week to recover?
34 6'2 92kg
1min 368m 500m 1:24.4 2k 6:24 5k 17:27

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by alex9026 » January 13th, 2025, 12:57 pm

Steady 16k today, my longest unbroken piece in weeks. I used to have a lot of calf trouble which I put down to a nerve issue in my backside. I was treated to a silicone Vapor Fitness seat cover for Christmas and this has so far worked a treat. Hoping I can build on this in the coming weeks. Broken distance pieces have their place (and allow me to pace a couple of seconds quicker) but there is really no substitute for grinding out the long metres in one piece.
34 6'2 92kg
1min 368m 500m 1:24.4 2k 6:24 5k 17:27

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by nick rockliff » January 13th, 2025, 1:09 pm

Was supposed to a 60r20 this evening but didn't fancy it. So thought I'd do a first go at the CTC 5k but r26. Got 2 mins in and couldn't be bothered. So set a 30min up planning 1.54 r26, got 8 mins in an called it a day. So put another 30min up just to get some metres in and called it a day at 8 mins. So called it a day full stop :lol:

I have these types of days sometimes where you just don't fancy anything.
67 6' 4" 108kg
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by jcross485 » January 13th, 2025, 1:14 pm

A bit of time since I posted training here although I have a diary I am keeping.

I've been able to train every day since the new year though and am staying true to the program I have laid out.

It's a 9 day program that has three aerobic sessions (sometimes on the erg, sometimes a ruck), two controlled interval sessions (intervals targeting 5k/6k - 10k pace on 2:1 work to rest, intervals targeting 60:00 - HM pace on 4:1 work to rest), one "race pace" interval session (intervals targeting 2k pace or faster on 1:1 work to rest), and three strength sessions. No planned or programmed rest days, I let those fall where they fall.

At the end of 2024, I did an 8 x 500m (2:00 rest) session averaging 319.9w per interval; this was about 2w from my all time best.

Today I did the same 8 x 500m (2:00 rest) session; I wanted to average 320-321w per interval but ended up with a 325w average (all time best) and ended the last one at 342w without feeling like I had to go to the well.

All things considered, I'm pleased with the progress in a short time and am motivated to stay disciplined to the plan and see it through.
M, '85; 5'10" (1.78m), 175lbs (79kg)

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » January 13th, 2025, 2:54 pm

30:00.0 7,011m 2:08.3 165 869 17 113
5:00.0 1,163m 2:08.9 163 861 17 103
10:00.0 1,164m 2:08.8 164 862 17 110
15:00.0 1,165m 2:08.7 164 864 17 113
20:00.0 1,166m 2:08.6 164 865 17 115
25:00.0 1,183m 2:06.7 172 890 17 120
30:00.0 1,170m 2:08.2 166 871 17 121

I'm still in the middle of a cold, but I couldn't not do anything any longer.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by petererg » January 13th, 2025, 3:43 pm

1hr steady row at 2:14.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00:00.0 13,432m 2:14.0 145 800 20 128
10:00.0 2,240m 2:13.9 146 801 20 128
20:00.0 2,239m 2:13.9 146 800 20 128
30:00.0 2,247m 2:13.5 147 806 20 130
40:00.0 2,227m 2:14.7 143 792 20 125
50:00.0 2,255m 2:13.0 149 811 21 132
1:00:00.0 2,224m 2:14.8 143 790 20 127
85kg, 50 years old, male

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by reuben » January 13th, 2025, 4:51 pm

Slogged through 7500m of steady state muck and mire. Not feeling motivated lately. Barely did anything last week - erg, cycling, yoga, strength, or anything else. At least I got my butt in the seat for a while. Tomorrow should be a day for the bike trainer. Should be. And honestly, every day should be a yoga day, especially the type I do.
"It's not an adventure until something goes wrong." - Yvon Chouinard

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Sakly » January 13th, 2025, 5:01 pm

nick rockliff wrote:
January 13th, 2025, 1:09 pm
Was supposed to a 60r20 this evening but didn't fancy it. So thought I'd do a first go at the CTC 5k but r26. Got 2 mins in and couldn't be bothered. So set a 30min up planning 1.54 r26, got 8 mins in an called it a day. So put another 30min up just to get some metres in and called it a day at 8 mins. So called it a day full stop :lol:

I have these types of days sometimes where you just don't fancy anything.
Can relate to that very well :lol:
Having such days makes the good days even more enjoyable :)
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » January 14th, 2025, 2:15 am

alex9026 wrote:
January 13th, 2025, 12:57 pm
Steady 16k today, my longest unbroken piece in weeks. I used to have a lot of calf trouble which I put down to a nerve issue in my backside. I was treated to a silicone Vapor Fitness seat cover for Christmas and this has so far worked a treat. Hoping I can build on this in the coming weeks. Broken distance pieces have their place (and allow me to pace a couple of seconds quicker) but there is really no substitute for grinding out the long metres in one piece.
Hopefully this is going to be the difference for you, and if it's worked so far, I can't see it suddenly stopping.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » January 14th, 2025, 3:45 am

42:36.4 10,000m 2:07.8 168 876 18 122
5:19.3 1,250m 2:07.7 168 878 18 115
5:19.0 2,500m 2:07.6 168 879 18 119
5:18.7 3,750m 2:07.4 169 881 18 122
5:17.4 5,000m 2:06.9 171 888 18 125
5:17.6 6,250m 2:07.0 171 887 18 122
5:20.1 7,500m 2:08.0 167 873 18 125
5:22.5 8,750m 2:09.0 163 861 18 126
5:21.8 10,000m 2:08.7 164 864 18 125

I managed to feel semi awake this morning, but I still need to be sensible.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by PleaseLockIn » January 14th, 2025, 3:59 am

iain wrote:
January 13th, 2025, 4:55 am
PLI, resting HR is affected by many things. On a stressful week at work mine can be 20 higher than normal and my rowing performance is way down as well. Not sure whether that is cardiac fatigue or a reduction in my ability to really attack the erg / keep going when nit gets harder.

Fitness training is for life so a marathon not a sprint. You will not keep at it if you are stressed by it, so back off and do what you enjoy so that rowing sessions can become a fun novelty! Pete's plans were designed for him and people like him who will always see everything through comparisons so it makes a virtue by harnessing the competitive instinct to compete against yourself. Not for everyone. I generally use his technique, but while it helps during the early phase of significant improvements I find I struggle when performance flatlines or life becomes stressful as "backing off" while what I know is required can feel like an admission of failure.

You are still developing and have come a long way, much better to establish a reasonable routine that prioritises your studies and keeps you healthy for now. You can ramp up training in holidays if you so desire.
That is true. That's why I see other signs to see whether I am genuinely overtraining or not. It seems these days I have a lot more work to do, so maybe that's a big reason why the resting HR is high.

It is true. I had to step back. I will push forwards later, but for now I will hold back a little bit.

Some people still think that me pushing forwards slightly is "self-sabotage," and I laughed at a person who replied to me like that. A few years ago I would be engaged in some petty conflict, but now I can chill. It was way too far, and his words were uncalled for.

But training - simply a step back, some steady state, some basketball. I need to focus on my life first today. On Wednesday I could do my intervals and hold back slightly. It's for the better.

I know I have not failed per se, and me attempting the PP 5k showed me that I can push like hell if I have to. But for now, step back and then see what I can do. It is not a failure and I genuinely did not do badly. That's what I tell myself when I think that I have "failed" by going back.
18M 175 cm 67kg

(Nov 2024 serious start) 2024 PBs: 6900m 30r20, 12*500m R1 2:04 r24 (last 1:59 r20), 7:58 2k
2025 PBs:

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by iain » January 14th, 2025, 4:36 am

PleaseLockIn wrote:
January 14th, 2025, 3:59 am
... training - simply a step back, some steady state, some basketball. I need to focus on my life first today. On Wednesday I could do my intervals and hold back slightly. It's for the better.

I know I have not failed per se, and me attempting the PP 5k showed me that I can push like hell if I have to. But for now, step back and then see what I can do. It is not a failure and I genuinely did not do badly. That's what I tell myself when I think that I have "failed" by going back.
Sensible approach. I would be surprised if you had reached proper "over training" which takes weeks to resolve, just over reaching / under recovering. But erging is mental as well as physical. Push yourself too hard and you will give up. Some days we all have to push ourselves to get going, but if this becomes the norm this is a danger sign and suggests that something needs to change. Re your plans, no idea how much your other activities are taking out of you and so how much erging and at what intensity is sensible. I suspect that you are lacking in base fitness, so one option is to mostly do 30min or so SS on erg while enjoying your other activities. Personally I need the intervals to keep me motivated, but if this isn't helping, extra intervals now will have little impact on your performance in September, while a more positive attitude will make all the difference to the key training in the final 3 months.
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by p_b82 » January 14th, 2025, 6:36 am

PleaseLockIn wrote:
January 14th, 2025, 3:59 am
I know I have not failed per se, and me attempting the PP 5k showed me that I can push like hell if I have to. But for now, step back and then see what I can do. It is not a failure and I genuinely did not do badly. That's what I tell myself when I think that I have "failed" by going back.
I don't want again to be rude, but you did fail, you failed to complete 2 different structured plans - for various different reasons.

However don't see failure as a bad thing - I fail all the time - what is important is that you learnt; and you understand your reasons for the failure, so are able to do things better next time.

The only time when failure is bad, is when a person wilfully ignores all the information that resulted in the original failure and just does the exact same thing a second time.
M 6'4 born:'82
PB's
'23: HM=1:36:08.0, 60'=13,702m
'24: 500m=1:37.7, 2k=7:44.80, 5k=20:42.9, 10k=42:13.1, FM=3:18:35.4, 30'=7,132m
'25: 6k: 25:05.4
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by alex9026 » January 14th, 2025, 6:56 am

28:07.6 8,000m 1:45.4 298 1326 25

7:08.1 2,000m 1:47.0 286 1282 25

7:04.1 2,000m 1:46.0 294 1310 25

7:00.2 2,000m 1:45.0 302 1339 25

6:55.2 2,000m 1:43.8 313 1377 26

4x2k/5:00. Will be needing the full five minutes in a cycle or two.
34 6'2 92kg
1min 368m 500m 1:24.4 2k 6:24 5k 17:27

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