Ranger's training thread

[snowleopard]

or a 60-year-old to row well is a gobsmacker.

Have you ranked anything at 2K and over at 13 SPI? No. So you have never rowed well. Anyone can "row well" for a few tens of meters

True.

I've never rowed well, either.

My best effort, I guess, is a sub-6:30 2K at 12 SPI, without even preparing for it, five years ago, about half way through my training.

Er, no. That was a hwt row. Rowing well as a porker is 16 SPI. So you were fully 25% shy of "rowing well".

BTW, five years is more than one Olympiad. Your coach must be utterly shite if he can't deliver an athlete within that time frame. Why would you want to bow and scrape to a pretentious twat like that

[Rocket Roy]

You must be really good to do a FM at 1.48.

I just did only a 30 min piece at 1.52.2 average and...26 spm and it nearly killed me. OK it was strapless but even so.

[mikvan52]

Rich:
I added two photos to my facebook file on sculling.

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= ... 65d&type=1

look a the last two.

They show part of my workout today:
2 sets of 6 (30 strokes on/ 20 strokes off) 5' rest

I have this programmed in to my NK SL2.... to get splits
You might like to add routines like this to your sculling sessions.

It's good to hold the pace down to head race pace to become a smoother sculler...
6x(30/20) takes nearly 3500m in one direction (w/o turning around)
I was a little speedy sometimes this morning

[Citroen]

Hard work and high standards enforce humility.


ranger

I am going to fully support this assertion and as such ranger proved he has not been setting high standards for himself and has not been doing hard work for he has the least amount of humility of any human being I have ever come across. His level of arrogance and narcissism make today's out of control celebrities seem humble as a matter of fact.

Ranger doesn't know the meaning of the words "humble" or "humility". He wasn't even humble enough to stand on the third step of the podium and congratulate the silver and gold medal winners at BIRC.

He's just a nasty old man and a fully paid up internet troll.

[Brunsie]

Hard work and high standards enforce humility.


ranger

I am going to fully support this assertion and as such ranger proved he has not been setting high standards for himself and has not been doing hard work for he has the least amount of humility of any human being I have ever come across. His level of arrogance and narcissism make today's out of control celebrities seem humble as a matter of fact.

It takes humility to pursue the standards and do the work.

What you are considering humility is something like "selflessness," or whatever.

That's nonsense.

Nothing significant gets done selflessly.

ranger

Complete bullshit. Yet another example of your arrogance for you to imply you know what I am considering humility to be. Just FYI, I consider the actual definition of "humility - –noun -the quality or condition of being humble; modest opinion or estimate of one's own importance, rank, etc." So, what you thought I was considering , "selflessness – adjective - having little or no concern for oneself, especially with regard to fame, position, money, etc.; unselfish." was not even close. History is littered with examples of people who had monumental accomplishments and yet were incredibly humble at the same time. Clearly being humble is not an impediment for success.

I still maintain you are the most arrogant and narcissistic person I have ever come across in my life.

And, on a completely different subject, but one you tried to change the discussion to; I also completely disagree with your assertion that "Nothing significant gets done selflessly". Once again, your arrogance is astonishing. There have been countless things that were significant and that were done selflessly. In fact even if you somehow pulled off your endeavor the level of significance would pale in comparison to millions of accomplishment that occurred selflessly, by a magnitude of thousands.

So once again, according to ranger "Hard work and high standards enforce humility" and since ranger has not an ounce of humility by definition I think it is safe to say ranger has confirmed that he has not been putting in any hard work and he has not set high standards for himself.

[ranger]

Rich:
I added two photos to my facebook file on sculling.

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= ... 65d&type=1

look a the last two.

They show part of my workout today:
2 sets of 6 (30 strokes on/ 20 strokes off) 5' rest

I have this programmed in to my NK SL2.... to get splits
You might like to add routines like this to your sculling sessions.

It's good to hold the pace down to head race pace to become a smoother sculler...
6x(30/20) takes nearly 3500m in one direction (w/o turning around)
I was a little speedy sometimes this morning

I don't really know what to expect yet in terms of pace and rate over 1K using a properly calibrated speed coach.

I have never done any timed "pieces" in my OTW training--at all.

I will know soon, though.

Then we can exchange notes.

Sure.

I think I should also do something like 1:50 @ 33 spm in a rate restricted 1K.

That's right around 8 SPI.

Then the question will be what I can rate for 1K, flat out.

I think I'll rate as high as 36 spm, perhaps even 38 spm.

I won't know until I try it, though.

I'll start at low rates and low HRs and work up to the exhausting, frenetic stuff.

BTW, I think I'll be doing 1:56 @ 28 spm, not 2:03.

2:03 @ 28 spm is 6.6 SPI, not 8 SPI.

8 SPI is 2:03 @ 23 spm, not 28 spm.

ranger

[Citroen]

That's right around 8 SPI.

You still haven't come up with an adequate explanation of how you're measuring wattage in your boat.

If you're assuming that ergo wattage is identical to boat wattage (regardless of things like drag, wind resistance, etc.) then you're a moronic cretin, rather than just a cretin.

[ranger]

If you're assuming that ergo wattage is identical to boat wattage (regardless of things like drag, wind resistance, etc.) then you're a moronic cretin, rather than just a cretin.

For those who are lean and row well, paces in a 1x are in and around 15 seconds per 500m over erg times.

The erg paces, given the work done, are calibrated to a four/quad, and so are faster.

ranger

[Citroen]

That's right around 8 SPI.

If you're assuming that ergo wattage is identical to boat wattage (regardless of things like drag, wind resistance, etc.) then you're a moronic cretin, rather than just a cretin.

For those who are lean and row well, paces in a 1x are in and around 15 seconds per 500m over erg times.

The erg paces, given the work done, are calibrated to a four/quad, and so are faster.

ranger

BULLSHIT

Clueless moronic cretin.

[jliddil]

A very prolific day on the Island

[ranger]

BULLSHIT

Mahe Drysdale's Open hwt 1x WR OTW is 6:33, 1:38.25 pace.

Rob Waddell's Open hwt WR OTErg is 5:35, 1:23.75 pace.

The difference?

14.40 seconds per 500m.

ranger

[Citroen]

BULLSHIT

Mahe Drysdale's Open hwt 1x WR OTW is 6:33, 1:38.25 pace.

Rob Waddell's Open hwt WR OTErg is 5:35, 1:23.75 pace.

The difference?

14.40 seconds per 500m.

ranger

You may have a man crush on some of these rowers but you are not Mahe nor are you as good as him.

When's the FM scheduled for, is that out to Summer 2012 now?
Have you been able to row further than 2K at 1:46? ... no, didn't think so.
How much less than 15K did you do today?
Have you calibrated that speed coach yet?
Are you signed up for any OTW races? ... no, didn't think so.

Are you a clueless moronic cretin and a pathological liar? (No need to answer that one.)

[snowleopard]

BULLSHIT

Mahe Drysdale's Open hwt 1x WR OTW is 6:33, 1:38.25 pace.

Rob Waddell's Open hwt WR OTErg is 5:35, 1:23.75 pace.

The difference?

14.40 seconds per 500m.

Er, that's a sample of two. Different athletes: one OTW and the other OTErg. I couldn't think of a more flawed correlation.

Does a course in poetics cover the scientific method? No, didn't think so. Your point is what, exactly?

Anyway, Dick, you just keep banging away at that keyboard. Probability says that at some point you're gonna write something that makes sense.

[ranger]

you are not Mahe nor are you as good as him.

True.

Never said I was.

I am both older and smaller.

But the relation between our erging and our OTW rowing is right about the same.

He is better at both than I am.

I am worse at both than he is.

But given what I do OTErg, it becomes pretty predictable what I can do OTW.

And given what he does OTErg, it becomes pretty predictable what he can do OTW.

The difference between OTW times and OTErg times for those who are lean and row well is right around 15 seconds per 500m.

ranger

[ranger]

Mike VB does 2:03 for HOCR.

Mike VB does 1:48 for 5K OTErg.

Difference?

15 seconds per 500m.

Given how well MIke rows OTW (8 SPI, etc.), I suspect that if he did 5K at 1:35 OTErg, he would do 1:50 OTW for HOCR.

ranger