Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

But the Ramada Plaza I am staying at has a nice fitness room and pool which I have been using for two hours each morning, to keep my fitness up.

An hour on the treadmill and then an hour in the pool yesterday.

An hour on the elliptical and then an your in the pool today.

I am keeping my normal schedule, starting my workouts about 4 a.m. and working until about 6 a.m.

Having mixed travelling and training for triathlons before, I'd be very surprised if they'd have the pool open at that time in the morning. Oh wait, they don't.

From: Ramada Plaza Minneapolis [mailto:info@ramadaplazampls.com]

Thanks for the question!

Our pool and work out facilities are open from 6am-11pm daily.

Let us know if there are any other questions we can help answer,
Margaret Mattison

I just requested at the front desk that they open it up early, and they were happy to.

An hour on the bike and an hour in the pool this morning.

Back in Door County, WI, as soon as we can get packed and away.

ranger

[ranger]

HDPE von Manbatt defines "preparing" as "doing the entire cockamamie range of timed trials he fantasizes to be 2k predictors, starting with a world-record FM and working down to a WR 500m."

Indeed I do.

Don't you?

Then again, for the last eight years, most of the time, I have just been rowing at low rates, working on technique. I haven't even been doing distance rowing (at middlin' rates), much less long and short anaerobic intervals or trials (at high rates).

No one just rows at low rates and heart rates to prepare for a 2K.

Not me, not you, not anyone.

ranger

[Citroen]

But the Ramada Plaza I am staying at has a nice fitness room and pool which I have been using for two hours each morning, to keep my fitness up.

An hour on the treadmill and then an hour in the pool yesterday.

An hour on the elliptical and then an your in the pool today.

I am keeping my normal schedule, starting my workouts about 4 a.m. and working until about 6 a.m.

Having mixed travelling and training for triathlons before, I'd be very surprised if they'd have the pool open at that time in the morning. Oh wait, they don't.

From: Ramada Plaza Minneapolis [mailto:info@ramadaplazampls.com]

Thanks for the question!

Our pool and work out facilities are open from 6am-11pm daily.

Let us know if there are any other questions we can help answer,
Margaret Mattison

I just requested at the front desk that they open it up early, and they were happy to.

An hour on the bike and an hour in the pool this morning.

Back in Door County, WI, as soon as we can get packed and away.

ranger

This is priceless. A classic Rangerism. He's been shown to be a liar so he responds with more lies.

[ranger]

most people want the best result they have in them an a given day

Even without preparing for my races, when I was 55, I pulled a hwt 6:29.7 in 2006 and a lwt 6:42 in 2007, and when I was 58 and 59, lwt 6:41s in 2009 and 2010.

No one my weight had even rowed as fast at these ages.

Given that I didn't even prepare for these races and got performances that were the best ever, I suspect I got the best result I could get on those days.

When I prepare for my races, I almost _always_ get the best result I can get.

As a 50s veteran, I had six sub-6:30 2Ks, a dozen sub-6:40 2Ks, three WR rows, golds in all of the major championships, etc.

Everyone gets about a dozen seconds over 2K from a couple of months of good race preparation (distance trials and anerobic intervals).

It is especially hard for me to row as a lighweight without preparing for it.

The combination of no anaerobic capacities and no food and water is pretty hard to deal with rowing 2K at WR pace.

ranger

[NavigationHazard]

No, I DON'T do the whole cockamamie range of WR-pace 2k predictors you seem to think are necessary before rowing a "fully prepared" 2k. And neither does anyone else in the rowing world, including the current men's and women's LW as well as HW absolute record holders. There is no physiological or for that matter psychological reason why anyone need perform a world-record full marathon on an erg before doing a world record half marathon before doing 10k before doing 5k before doing ... before doing a competition 2k. None.

In your case, it is true, there are both psychological and physiological reasons for NOT doing your putative prep. Your constant chickening out, while reprehensible in sporting terms, does allow you to self-justify the claim that you've done X "without ever preparing for it." We all know you have prepared, in your whackadoodle fashion, mind you; you're not fooling anyone. As for the physiological constraints, you can't do what you claim to be training to do because your entire theory is fraudulent. So too are your alleged training sessions. The only way you "succeed" (and at best that's highly intermittent underperformance) is in spite of yourself.

[snowleopard]

I just requested at the front desk that they open it up early, and they were happy to.

Total crock of shit. There are so many issues related to them doing that: staffing, public liability etc. You should be banned for a week for lying

[Byron Drachman]

I see Rick A. won the 1x at the Masters Nationals in his group (the same group our intrepid hero would be in if he attended) yesterday, and that Leadville advanced to the finals in his division this morning.
According to the usrowing website there will be a webcast tomorrow:

http://www.ustream.tv/usrowing

[hjs]

most people want the best result they have in them an a given day

Even without preparing for my races, when I was 55, I pulled a hwt 6:29.7 in 2006 and a lwt 6:42 in 2007, and when I was 58 and 59, lwt 6:41s in 2009 and 2010.

No one my weight had even rowed as fast at these ages.

Given that I didn't even prepare for these races and got performances that were the best ever, I suspect I got the best result I could get on those days.

When I prepare for my races, I almost _always_ get the best result I can get.

As a 50s veteran, I had six sub-6:30 2Ks, a dozen sub-6:40 2Ks, three WR rows, golds in all of the major championships, etc.

Everyone gets about a dozen seconds over 2K from a couple of months of good race preparation (distance trials and anerobic intervals).

It is especially hard for me to row as a lighweight without preparing for it.

The combination of no anaerobic capacities and no food and water is pretty hard to deal with rowing 2K at WR pace.

ranger

What you call "unprepared" is beter trained then 99% of all other ergers, I don't talk about rowing, cause you can't row, you paddle around.

You always got you best result after quite some races, and that is the 12 seconds.

btw funny you mention that 6.41, the lost bet that gave you a dept of $1000 to me, at least I, and the rest of the followers got the fun that I got you racing and racing and racing, just to see you end up at the point I told you you would be.

And after that showing some of your most disturbed behavior.

Unprepared hahahahaha that 6.41 is the bit of good racing you have done and ever will do. Your racing days are over

[kini62]

I just requested at the front desk that they open it up early, and they were happy to.

An hour on the bike and an hour in the pool this morning.

Back in Door County, WI, as soon as we can get packed and away.

ranger

LIAR

[mikvan52]

Meanwhile, back in the real world of rowing, rowers are outside of training rooms in boats:

Oklahoma City: Masters Nationals 60's age group
Race 56: Mens Ltwt F 1x Final @ 10:41 AM
1st K. Juurakko

Ever heard of him Rich?
He won the HOCR too... a few years back in the 50's age-group..

..and, oh yes, he doesn't erg ... funny, that

[Byron Drachman]

Meanwhile, back in the real world of rowing, rowers are outside of training rooms in boats:

Oklahoma City: Masters Nationals 60's age group
Race 56: Mens Ltwt F 1x Final @ 10:41 AM
1st K. Juurakko

Ever heard of him Rich?
He won the HOCR too... a few years back in the 50's age-group..

..and, oh yes, he doesn't erg ... funny, that

There is a webcast right now.
Here is the link again in case anybody has some spare time. What fun to watch so much good rowing and sculling. I see from the results that Leadville is a gold medalist again.

http://www.ustream.tv/usrowing

[mrfit]

Laps in this pool?

http://hotelsharbor.com/ramada_plaza_mi ... roseville/

That's gotta to be insane!

Oh....

Upgrade next time. 58,000 sq foot fitness facility and a real pool.

http://hotelsharbor.com/grand_hotel_min ... roseville/

[ranger]

Here is the link again in case anybody has some spare time.

Sorry, Byron.

No time this weekend.

It was go, go, go, with my children.

Both were moving to new apartments and my wife and I were helpers.

My son, Colin, finished up his work with the Youth Farm project in Minneapolis, which weds together communities of inner city kids through the hand-on experience of green growing things and heathy foods. We were part of the cheering section of his harvest festival, a year-end event that cooks up and serves the food the kids have grown--both to themselves and to the community more generally. Nice affair!

Most of our time was spent redecorating my daughter's new apartment, though, especially the *** DELETE - SPAM ***. We hauled out the old counter and bought and constructed a new one. Hung shelves and a pan rack. Put up a wine holder. Carted furniture across town. And so forth.

It was a six-hour drive back here to Door County, WI.

ranger

[ranger]

Meanwhile, back in the real world of rowing, rowers are outside of training rooms in boats:

Oklahoma City: Masters Nationals 60's age group
Race 56: Mens Ltwt F 1x Final @ 10:41 AM
1st K. Juurakko

Ever heard of him Rich?
He won the HOCR too... a few years back in the 50's age-group..

..and, oh yes, he doesn't erg ... funny, that

Yea.

He's quite a bit better than you, no?

1:47 pace for 1K.

It's funny that he doesn't erg?

No, not at all.

If he gives it a try, it would be interesting to see what he can do.

At 15 seconds per 500m over erg times, 1:47 for 1K OTW is the equivalent of 1:32 for 1K OTErg.

That's still quite a bit off of Castellan's 60s hwt 1K WR OTErg of 1:30.

Pretty close though, and again, much better than you.

ranger

[ranger]

Mike--

I can't figure out your personal problem with erging.

The erg is just a training tool, used everywhere by OTW rowers, including the best.

Is it just that you are bad at erging and can't figure out why?

If so, I sympathize.

Sure, if I were you, and were bad at erging, I would stay away from it, too.

It seems apparent:

You don't know how to use the erg to help your OTW rowing.

So, by all means, avoid it!

ranger