Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by mitchel674 » August 21st, 2022, 2:35 pm

Relaxing 10k, r22 done today at 2:22.1

I enjoy watching the force curve on these long rows.
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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by Wouter » August 22nd, 2022, 5:19 am

Week 10 for me last week.
I decided to slow down the pace for the SS from 2:22 to 2:25 because I could not keep my heartrate in the UT2 zone. But even at that pace my heartrate rises during the long rows and ends at the top of the UT1 zone, and even a bit in the AT zone.
9500m 2:25,5 spm 17
4x2000m 2:15,5 spm 19
8000m 2:24,5 spm 17
7x500m 1:59,0 spm 26
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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by thaloun » August 23rd, 2022, 12:22 am

Starting week 8. Heartrate has been staying below my target so I've upped the split slightly on the endurance sessions to 2:25. Meanwhile stroke rate to hit that is down to 18. I feel strong and relaxed and my back is no longer exceedingly tired at the end of a session. Onward an upwards.

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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by Dangerscouse » August 23rd, 2022, 4:25 am

thaloun wrote:
August 23rd, 2022, 12:22 am
Starting week 8. Heartrate has been staying below my target so I've upped the split slightly on the endurance sessions to 2:25. Meanwhile stroke rate to hit that is down to 18. I feel strong and relaxed and my back is no longer exceedingly tired at the end of a session. Onward an upwards.
You're making good progress. They are all ideal markers of improvement.
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by mitchel674 » August 23rd, 2022, 6:51 am

thaloun wrote:
August 23rd, 2022, 12:22 am
Starting week 8. Heartrate has been staying below my target so I've upped the split slightly on the endurance sessions to 2:25. Meanwhile stroke rate to hit that is down to 18. I feel strong and relaxed and my back is no longer exceedingly tired at the end of a session. Onward an upwards.
That's what it's all about. Steady, incremental progress. The gradually increasing long rows sneak up on you until one day you realize that rowing a 10k is no big deal and is just a part of your training.
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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by mitchel674 » August 23rd, 2022, 7:04 pm

Week 15 first set of intervals is 750m x 5, r2. I was concerned about this piece since the last two times I did short intervals I tweaked my back when my stroke rate exceeded 30spm. I decided to go a bit conservative and aim for 2:08 pace.

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I was very pleased when some light, quick strokes over 30 spm felt good on the last interval. I probably could have broken 2:00 but didn't want to risk injury with a big weekend of waterskiing planned.
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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by Dangerscouse » August 24th, 2022, 3:31 am

mitchel674 wrote:
August 23rd, 2022, 7:04 pm
Week 15 first set of intervals is 750m x 5, r2. I was concerned about this piece since the last two times I did short intervals I tweaked my back when my stroke rate exceeded 30spm. I decided to go a bit conservative and aim for 2:08 pace.

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I was very pleased when some light, quick strokes over 30 spm felt good on the last interval. I probably could have broken 2:00 but didn't want to risk injury with a big weekend of waterskiing planned.
It's always hard to know when to twist and when to stick, to use pontoon or blackjack parlance, but you were right to be sensible.
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by mitchel674 » August 24th, 2022, 12:22 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
August 24th, 2022, 3:31 am
mitchel674 wrote:
August 23rd, 2022, 7:04 pm
Week 15 first set of intervals is 750m x 5, r2. I was concerned about this piece since the last two times I did short intervals I tweaked my back when my stroke rate exceeded 30spm. I decided to go a bit conservative and aim for 2:08 pace.

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I was very pleased when some light, quick strokes over 30 spm felt good on the last interval. I probably could have broken 2:00 but didn't want to risk injury with a big weekend of waterskiing planned.
It's always hard to know when to twist and when to stick, to use pontoon or blackjack parlance, but you were right to be sensible.
Thanks, Stu. Live to erg another day. I need to get back under 2:00 for these shorter intervals, but I am actually enjoying the Pete Plan when I focus more on technique and less on my pace.
59yo male, 6ft, 153lbs

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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by Dangerscouse » August 24th, 2022, 3:43 pm

mitchel674 wrote:
August 24th, 2022, 12:22 pm
Thanks, Stu. Live to erg another day. I need to get back under 2:00 for these shorter intervals, but I am actually enjoying the Pete Plan when I focus more on technique and less on my pace.
Sub 2:00 will happen, and it's good to hear you're enjoying the process more than the results.
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by RayOfSunshine » August 25th, 2022, 5:33 pm

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Trying the BPP with the SkiErg. We'll see how it goes.
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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by mitchel674 » August 26th, 2022, 9:29 am

RayOfSunshine wrote:
August 25th, 2022, 5:33 pm
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Trying the BPP with the SkiErg. We'll see how it goes.
Welcome back, Ray. Great to see you again. How do you like your skierg?
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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by RayOfSunshine » August 26th, 2022, 9:43 am

mitchel674 wrote:
August 26th, 2022, 9:29 am


Welcome back, Ray. Great to see you again. How do you like your skierg?
Thanks Mitchell. Good to be back. I'm not mature enough for FB and this board is what helped change my life. I went back and found the old thread.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=152344&hilit=BPP&start=1830

On the skierg, TBH, I wasn't a big fan at first. However, it's grown on me quite a bit. After today, I'm hating it :lol: the last 2 500s were not pleasant
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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by Dangerscouse » August 26th, 2022, 9:57 am

RayOfSunshine wrote:
August 25th, 2022, 5:33 pm
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Trying the BPP with the SkiErg. We'll see how it goes.
Yep, welcome back.
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by frenzen » August 26th, 2022, 7:33 pm

On Week 2:

Finished Day 3 and I rowed a few seconds slower than Week 2 Day 1. Day 3 was a total struggle and I was unable to keep it below 2:15 although I attempted to start slower. I was in Zone 5 for 13 mins, 5m in zone 3,6m in zone 1. Abs were burning as hell

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Here are my result for Week 2 Day 2 and Day 1:

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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by Dangerscouse » August 27th, 2022, 6:06 am

frenzen wrote:
August 26th, 2022, 7:33 pm
On Week 2:
Finished Day 3 and I rowed a few seconds slower than Week 2 Day 1. Day 3 was a total struggle and I was unable to keep it below 2:15 although I attempted to start slower. I was in Zone 5 for 13 mins, 5m in zone 3,6m in zone 1. Abs were burning as hell
Bad days are the price you pay for the good days :wink:

So many things could be affecting you it's not worth dwelling on, and next time could very possibly be far better. That's happened to me quite a lot, 24 hours later and it was a world of difference.
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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