Erg is a power meter and then what?

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Re: Erg is a power meter and then what?

Post by jackarabit » September 10th, 2014, 9:08 am

Excellent link, Doug. We've come a long way since the Prony brake! Jack
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Re: Erg is a power meter and then what?

Post by jackarabit » September 10th, 2014, 10:34 am

Winners write the history that gets the best press and the widest dissemination. Jack
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Re: Erg is a power meter and then what?

Post by Edward4492 » September 10th, 2014, 1:25 pm

Looks like I got it dead backwards (as Greg pointed out). The C2 actually reads the watts and everything else is intrepreted. Which is why 200w will always equal a given pace, fixed calories etc. Is this correct?

Regardless, the PM 3/4 displays readings that can be easily maintained once a rythym is established. Bicycle power meters are very jumpy. And of course the erg experiences no issues with wind, hills, aerodynamics, etc(obviously).

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Re: Erg is a power meter and then what?

Post by Bob S. » September 10th, 2014, 1:49 pm

jackarabit wrote:Interesting that the designers of a sim rowing algorithm would assign each of us a quarter interest in a boat without a brain.
Hah! Try telling that to the person that has the bow seat in a 4- (or a 2-), and has to navigate a crowded channel with a foot activated rudder cable while trying to do his/her share of the rowing.

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Re: Erg is a power meter and then what?

Post by Bob S. » September 10th, 2014, 1:55 pm

jackarabit wrote: full of it?
That says it all.

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Re: Erg is a power meter and then what?

Post by Bob S. » September 10th, 2014, 2:11 pm

jackarabit wrote:Interesting that the designers of a sim rowing algorithm would assign each of us a quarter interest in a boat without a brain. I would have guessed single scull. Then there's that business about the adjustable shutter or damper which is supposed to produce the feel of the long "run" of a needle-like shell (was it an eight?) at some particular df and the pry it thru the water feel of a beamy rowboat at another. Inventive minds to be sure and it would be interesting to see how much was invented after the patent was granted! Obviously the spoke and vane first model did not have such a level of either functional or legendary sophistication. Jack
It is a function of the PMs, not the models. The model A, with its spokes and vanes, had a speedometer, not a performance monitor.

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Re: Erg is a power meter and then what?

Post by jackarabit » September 10th, 2014, 2:24 pm

I can imagine, Bob, as looked at a video t'other day of a coxed four that lost rudder control on a small river with closely spaced bends. The hard noggins up front didn't respond well to the frantic and unusual demands placed upon them and I bet the cox'n was wondering where she stowed the canoe paddle as the boat caromed from bank to bank. One answer for the busy bowman could be those eyeglass-mounted mirrors that allow bike tourists time to reach a proper state of alarm at the size and speed of approaching tractor trailers rather than just being pleasantly surprised upon discovering that they haven't been sucked to their deaths in the slipstream. Jack
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Re: Erg is a power meter and then what?

Post by jackarabit » September 10th, 2014, 2:31 pm

Your combo posts fly thick and fast Bob! Prolly gonna need a nap soon. Jack
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Re: Erg is a power meter and then what?

Post by Bob S. » September 10th, 2014, 3:10 pm

jackarabit wrote:Your combo posts fly thick and fast Bob! Prolly gonna need a nap soon. Jack
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Re: Erg is a power meter and then what?

Post by Gettingold » September 10th, 2014, 8:07 pm

You guys really need to row more....

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Re: Erg is a power meter and then what?

Post by jackarabit » September 10th, 2014, 8:30 pm

10 days into the month averaging 9900m a day including one day off in the average. So far stepping up the milage seems to be sustainable and fatigue under control. If I keep it up, I'll have nearly 297K this month or slightly less than twice the yardage I put up in August. Heck, I'll never be able to keep that pace posting here. :roll:

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