Watts again

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Post by johnlvs2run » March 23rd, 2006, 3:07 pm

Ben Rea wrote:why are you even worrying about the watts?
Great question -- for which there is no good answer.

The monitor displays pace, very well, and this is much more useful than the watts.
bikeerg 75 5'8" 155# - 18.5 - 51.9 - 568 - 1:52.7 - 8:03.8 - 20:13.1 - 14620 - 40:58.7 - 28855 - 1:23:48.0
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Post by Ben Rea » March 23rd, 2006, 3:14 pm

exactly so to solve this guys problem......dont use watts at all, seriously

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Post by Citroen » March 23rd, 2006, 7:05 pm

slalomskater wrote: 2. John Rupp's information is flat out wrong about 98% of the time. If you are pressed for time, skip over anything with his name attached.
That is so true.
Rendog wrote:I've had my concept 2 model D rower for about 2 months now, my best time for a 2000 meter row is 7:51:5. Im male, 44 years old, 6'3 206 pounds. Im in what I believe to be good shape. I normally veiw the force curve while rowing trying to keep the curve in the correct form. I never view the watts. Im not sure what I should be looking for. Is there a typical zone that I should be striving for? do the watts increase the harder that I pull? How can I use the Watts to increase my 2000 meter time?
To get away from JR (and his bizarre maths and interpretation of other folks posting) perhaps we should answer the your questions.
Is there a typical zone that I should be striving for?
Train to heart rate, find your UT2, UT1, AT, TR and AN heart rate zones. For example, do lots of long steady rows at UT2 (three sessions per week), do lots of intervals (two sessions per week) and a hard 10K on a Saturday.
do the watts increase the harder that I pull?
Rowing is 65-70% pushing with your legs. If you push harder the recorded watts will increase.
How can I use the Watts to increase my 2000 meter time?
You can't easily do that - it's simply an indication of how much power you're putting into the system. To improve 2K time you need to train longer and think about working to a training plan.

I never use the watts display. I always have the PM3 set to average pace.
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Post by Sitwronge » March 23rd, 2006, 7:40 pm

JR is wrong 98% of the time.

And I'm just a little sissy boy, sissy boy, sissy boy. :lol:

Train to heart rate, find your U2T, TUZ, ATP, TRQ and AN ARN ART heart rate. Put your finger on your nose, your hand on your toes, grab your tail with your teeth, now run around in a circle. Do this three times a week at U2T, AtP, An TRQ XYZ. This what I do and I eat lots of dougie biscuits too! :P This doesn't work for me but try it anyway. :P

Rowing is 65-70% pushing with your legs. John Rupp taught me this but he is faster than me so ignore him. :?

I never use the watts display. John Rupp taught me this too. :cry:

Please ignore him and listen to me. :(

I'm a little sissy boy, sissy boy, sissy boy, sissy boy oh, ohh I'm a little sissy boy, yes I am. :lol:
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Post by Citroen » March 23rd, 2006, 7:52 pm

Welcome back Mr Crazy Bowwow - it's been a while since you posted..

It's nice to see that John Rupp still knows how to register a second id on this system. He's clearly suffering from his bi-polar disorder (and that's nothing to do with the HRM manufacturers).

John stop listening to those voices in your head and get medical and/or psychiatric help.

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