Yearly metres?

[Scholes]

For the longest time I followed the interactive plan produced from that website always linked. I teach with a former national level rower here in Canada and gives me pointers and guidance every so often.

As of January 2017 I've been following the Pete plan as prescribed and have made tremendous progress that I never made on the interactive program as that plan was more about just rowing for a specific amount of time at a specific heart rate. I absolutely love the Pete plan. I realize it wasnt made to be repeated endlessly but with all my other training that I do after I finish a 3 week cycle, I give myself a deload week (with my weights as well) which keeps me fresh and motivated.

I care more about improving my split times on all my workouts. In my first post on this forum I mentioned I had a pb 2km at 7:15 which I was very happy with (considering I'm 172cm, 85kg). I'm getting close to what I would consider milestones in my training such as 7500m in 30 min or other targets I give myself to keep me motivated. As much as I enjoy the splits lowering though, there's something comforting seeing that overall mileage go up quickly though.

Never thought of logging my workouts I suppose. I write everything down old school in a book/journal and keep track of everything but not terribly competitive and why would anyone else care about my splits besides me? Just haven't really given it much thought.

[jackarabit]

Scholes, thread linked (new today) is not concerned with typical logbook yearly volume but may be more germane to your interests as it addresses the competition prep value of volume:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=155618

[Carl Watts]

Rowing at 2:40 pace, there is no heat in the kitchhen you don't even break a sweat at that pace.

A serious 30 minute workout for me is one where the pace starts with a "1" and so does the rating.

Nothing wrong with the rankings but now the Logbook can include ALL the information on the row its just common sense that when you either click on your name (or add the magnifying glass symbol to the right hand column) that currently only brings up limited information, it may as well link to the full information that also includes critical stuff like the rating/number of strokes and other information you can add like I do like temperature and humidity to the comments.

Yes the annual meters board is a waste of time as it stands for any form of comparative analysis, even with people in your age group. When you start to factor in things like if I add 5 seconds to my average pace I could double the distance rowed so it would jump to over 5 million meters in a year you clearly see the problem with just total meters recorded. As with any row, distance without pace information is a waste of time if your going to start trying to put things in any sort of order for anything other than "Fun".

[Rowan McSheen]

The two guys at the top of the year's mileage rankings are doing 45-47,000m a day. A marathon every day, 365 days, plus a few thousand as a warmup.

https://log.concept2.com/challenges/season/2017/10000

They must be either super fast or spend most of their waking hours on the erg

[hjs]

The two guys at the top of the year's mileage rankings are doing 45-47,000m a day. A marathon every day, 365 days, plus a few thousand as a warmup.

https://log.concept2.com/challenges/season/2017/10000

They must be either super fast or spend most of their waking hours on the erg

Wu ? The proberly need a coat to stay warm, going super slow

[Citroen]

Rowing at 2:40 pace, there is no heat in the kitchhen you don't even break a sweat at that pace.

It there an easy way to get average pace in the Logbook, or do I have to manually do the math myself?

If you use Ergdata on your phone the logbook does all that stuff for you. It'll even draw rate vs pace graphs.

[GJS]

As with any row, distance without pace information is a waste of time if your going to start trying to put things in any sort of order for anything other than "Fun".

I would like to see a good deal more than the addition of merely pace.

Height.
Athletic background.
BF levels and fat loss goals.
Number of extant limbs.
Disease status.
Record of surgical interventions.
Are you putting in the kms to stay out of the way of a truculent husband?
Are you rowing to take your mind off your wife who died of cancer?
Are you rowing to forget or to remember?

Bereft of such deets the whole thing's a nonsense.

[G-dub]

Depressed?
Moody?
Irritable bowels?
Erectile disfunction?
Recently married?
Recently divorced?
Employment status?
The list could go on!

[jackarabit]

The seat warmers and egg layers at the top of the meter board are always being accused of doing precisely what they must to put up astronomical totals--conserve fuel and hold engine temp and mechanical stress to a minimum. The most vocal critic of yearly total winners on this forum is now flexing his powerful jaw muscles exclaiming that the first digit of both his rating and his pace is "1" for the greater part of his aggregate yearly meter total.

I've heard it all before. The leaders are too slow. The leaders lie about their totals using manual entry. The leaders are too old to "compete" except in the context of age group segregation. SFW!

Pace/power from a 2k test is very handy for projecting the range of comfortable/sustainable pace an individual can be expected to produce per heart function zone. Typically, we don't have a reference 2k from the low output/long distance folks. They have this in common with our resident critic who is not forthcoming about his 2k. He does rank 2k until 2012-13. I suspect but cannot prove that his aggregate yearly average pace can be characterized as high UT2/midUT1 and all that puddled sweat mostly due to the high relative humidity of NZL.

Everyone should find his/her personal pace/endurance sweet spot and deploy it in the game for which it is an advantage rather than denying others the opportunity to compete in a game which plays to their strengths and circumstances.

Good point re: the adaptives, Gary. They need a sports venue in which they are respected for their self respect.

[Droode]

I do not think it matters what a persons yearly pace is based on there meters rowed what matters is they are engaged in the activity. Take someone like myself I use a polarized training system which means at least 80% or more of all my meters are at about 2:15 pace yet as a lw 50 year old I am in the top 10% for most of the distances from 10k down. If we average all those slow meters against my faster paced workouts I guess I am just a sub average paced rower for my age and weight, oh well.

[jackarabit]

Henry Legarre in 3rd on 2016/17 metre board. Log not public but ranked workouts yield a rough idea of max power and range potential (Paul''s Law performance curve). Guy's not an 80 watter. He seems comfortable with the participation game as it is. I doubt he's spending "all his waking hours" on the erg. Guessing 2hrs. 20min. is possible. Most days prolly longer.

[bisqeet]

Yes, but I meant average pace for the whole season

Guess I can just use this tool: http://www.concept2.com/indoor-rowers/t ... calculator

2,200,038 meters @ 1:56.0 for me this season.

I added an average and HR zone to the notes.
I.e #ut2 #R18.
I import the csv into a sql database and then I can sort it out a bit
Amount of meters at what HR zone.

Suppose I could do it based on watts.

Average pace for the whole is a little difficult, would have to interpolate the individual rows (different distances).. Not impossible, just not sure what it would show...
In my case it wouldn't even dent the ut2 stuff (3800000 meters of 4200000)

[G-dub]

I calculated my average pace for the meters rowed this year and came out with 2:20 / 500 (unless my math was drastically wrong and it sure seems it). I didn't do a single row intentionally above 2:14 and most of the UT2 rows were more in the 2:08-2:12 range. Did lots of rounds of Pete Plan and IP which had interval paces and hard distance paces much faster. Tested and PBed 500, 2K, 5K, 6K, 30', 10K. Average pace per year means nothing to me unless that is the game you are playing.

[jackarabit]

Average pace for annual total meters is total meters (at top of log page) divided by total time also at top of log page. First, of course, before dividing, you must convert minutes to fractional hours (ex: 15' becomes .25 hrs.) I don't worry with itty bits shorter than 6' or .1 hr. Go to the pace calculator and enter 60' as time and meters per hr. as distance. Viola! Av pace for meter total.

[G-dub]

That's what I did. I think it adds the time I was sitting on my butt waiting for the next interval.