Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

But it is mid 2010

Yes, I know.

I am much better now than I was in 2003.

In 2003, I didn't know how to row.

I now row well.

My fitness is about the same.

Because of my improved technique, when I am fully trained up for a 60min trial, I'll now be about 4 seconds per 500m faster than I was in 2003.

In 2003, I pulled 16.7K/1:48 for 60min.

I'll now do 17.3K for 60min--1:44 @ 28 spm.

ranger

[ranger]

rangerboy's continued lack of class and mendacious character has alienated pretty much everyone

There is nothing mendacious here at all, and the only thing here that lacks class is your needless name-calling.

I am happy to "alienate" myself from that.

ranger

[Tinus]

I haven't read this poetry for a month now but I feel it has declined in quality. It makes me think of a random text generator.

[macroth]

This thread was created by moderators for ranger to wallow in his own filth and to stop him from polluting other parts of the board.

There is no need to respond or comment in any way. Let's not ruin this by feeding his hunger for attention.

[ranger]

This thread was created by moderators for ranger to wallow in his own filth and to stop him from polluting other parts of the board.

There is no need to respond or comment in any way. Let's not ruin this by feeding his hunger for attention.

No "hunger from attention."

Just great rowing, and therefore all the attention in the world.

So it goes.

Ya gets whats ya pays fa.

ranger

[JimR]

It is interesting how other people go so far out of their way to talk trash in ranger threads. Followed by something about "don't post here". There is alot of odd behavior going around it seems.

Hopefully nobody shows up posting "threats" that cause the thread to get locked.

JimR

[ranger]

There is alot of odd behavior going around

Indeed.

But it has nothing to do with me.

I am one of the best indoor rowers in the history of the sport.

The "odd behavior" is in response to my achievement.

Not sure why, but so it goes.

Buncha trolls?

I guess.

ranger

[JimR]

There is alot of odd behavior going around

Indeed.

But it has nothing to do with me.

I am one of the best indoor rowers in the history of the sport.

The "odd behavior" is in response to my achievement.

Not sure why, but so it goes.

Buncha trolls?

I guess.

ranger

This an interesting claim to be sure. I would make the observation that when everyone comments on your erging they actually have nothing to base it on on because you don't provide quantifiable mearsure to draw conclusions. However your claims have no weight because you don't show anything to prove your case.

Mostly both sides are in a non-stop pissing contest ... which is sometimes funny to us spectators.

JimR

[Ralph Earle]

There is alot of odd behavior going around

Indeed.

But it has nothing to do with me.

I am one of the best indoor rowers in the history of the sport.

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ranger

No, you are not. You are not even close to being in the top 35:
http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20954

[ranger]

You are not even close to being in the top 35:

Happy to be in the top 50, or 100, or 200.

Or whatever.

Anyone who has three WR rows in a top rower in this sport, no?

To this point, my history is odd is other ways (starting late, taking out time to learn to row, etc.), but not in that.

How many others in this sport under 70 years old have three WR rows?

Does anyone?

ranger

[ranger]

I would make the observation that when everyone comments on your erging they actually have nothing to base it on on because you don't provide quantifiable mearsure to draw conclusions.

Nothing?

Don't know where that is coming from.

I race twice as much--or more--than my immediate competition, even though I have just been training, rather than preparing to race.

I am rowing right at WR pace for my age and weight, without even preparing for it.

My immediate competition is not rowing at WR pace, even though they are fully prepared.

I have the best 2K in my age and weight class for the last two years, even though I am now only a few months from the _next_ age category.

In the 50s ranks, age categories are separated by 8.5 seconds over 2K.

I am not sure why a demonstration of this sort, entirely factual, should start a pissing match.

There is nothing to piss about.

These are just facts.

If I didn't race, that would be something else.

If I didn't have the best times for my age and weight, that would be something else.

If I were training to race but was only racing as fast as I am now, that would be something else.

If I didn't provide other demonstrations of my potential at 2K (e.g., 1Kr24 @ 1:38, 500r30 @ 1:30, etc.), that would be something else.

If I didn't explain what I was doing with my training and racing, that would be something else.

But I do, am doing, and have done all of these things.

So there is noting to piss about whatsoever, other than the desire by the community here that I train like everyone else (or some such thing), and there is no reason at all for me to do that, although I am happy to hear about why I am wrong about this.

IMHO, if I trained like everyone else I would be both slower now and worse and worse as time went on.

In fact, I think I would be repeatedly sick, injured, stale, and discouraged.

In all probability, because of this, I would no longer be rowing.

That's not very desirable.

I love rowing.

In part, at least, I do it exactly to _avoid_ being sick, injured, stale, and discouraged.

I do it because it makes me feel great.

As a result, I don't see any reason whatsoever to change what I am doing.

I am doing just fine.

I prefer to listen to my own coach.

I have the best coach in the world.



ranger

[JimR]

I said ...

I would make the observation that when everyone comments on your erging they actually have nothing to base it on on because you don't provide quantifiable mearsure to draw conclusions.

And you go on to say ...

... I am rowing right at WR pace for my age and weight, without even preparing for it ...

Which just reinforces the point I am trying to make ... you never provide quantifiable measures that someone could use to judge your claims.

I understand what you are trying to say and it is fine that you say it. I don't believe it however.

I also don't understand why others go crazy when you post this stuff ... other than the enjoyment of argument.

JimR

[JimR]

One thing you may want to consider ranger ... your words have put you in the position that only an unbelieavable display of erging will ever silence your critics.

If your ultimate goal is to be despised by people in the sport of erging/rowing you are a very successful individual to be sure! I think most people would not want this to be one of their life's goals ... although you always claim to not be "most people".

JimR

[ranger]

your words have put you in the position that only an unbelieavable display of erging will ever silence your critics

Would you define "unbelievable" here?

In 2002-2003, I pulled a lightweight 6:28, even though I didn't know how to row.

I didn't use my legs.

I rowed at max drag.

Etc.

I have been training for seven years in order to learn to row well.

I have maintained my fitness.

I think that learning to row well is worth about three seconds per 500m over 2K.

Is this what you think is "unbelievable"?

If so, could you explain why?

It seems entirely reasonable to me.

ranger

[ranger]

I am back to rowing at 30-32 spm in my distance training, as I did in 2002-2003, but now with a stroke that is about 2 SPI stronger.

Delighted with this.

Now, if I rate 30 spm, I go 1:42 (11 SPI) rather than 1:48 (9 SPI).

The difference is six seconds per 500m.

In 2002-2003, I rated 30 spm for 60min.

When I am fully trained up for it, that's what I think I will do now, too.

Rowing is significantly technical.

Things like sequencing, timing, leverage at the footplate, layback, recoveries, preparation at the catch, posture, etc., can make a pretty big difference in your technical effectiveness and efficiency.

It helps to know how to row well.

In my estimation, the difference between rowing well and rowing poorly is about 60 watts.

ranger