Ranger's training thread

[Citroen]

I guess you moderators have to ask yourself at what point does the management of one person become more hassle than it is worth?

Banning him takes seconds. Unbanning is automatic. One day he may learn to stay in his box and not pollute the forums and other folks blogs with his crazy meanderings. One day he may learn to attribute quotes to the correct author.

[jliddil]

I guess you moderators have to ask yourself at what point does the management of one person become more hassle than it is worth?

Banning him takes seconds. Unbanning is automatic. One day he may learn to stay in his box and not pollute the forums and other folks blogs with his crazy meanderings. One day he may learn to attribute quotes to the correct author.

Beginning to sound like TSO "one day" = if

One day the world is going to end like it did Saturday.

[PaulH]

I guess you moderators have to ask yourself at what point does the management of one person become more hassle than it is worth?

Banning him takes seconds. Unbanning is automatic. One day he may learn to stay in his box and not pollute the forums and other folks blogs with his crazy meanderings. One day he may learn to attribute quotes to the correct author.

Plus I for one wouldn't feel comfortable making that decision in what is really someone else's playground. Or to put it another way, everyone go complain to C2, not me

[jliddil]

I guess you moderators have to ask yourself at what point does the management of one person become more hassle than it is worth?

Banning him takes seconds. Unbanning is automatic. One day he may learn to stay in his box and not pollute the forums and other folks blogs with his crazy meanderings. One day he may learn to attribute quotes to the correct author.

Plus I for one wouldn't feel comfortable making that decision in what is really someone else's playground. Or to put it another way, everyone go complain to C2, not me

Been there done that got no where. So I guess they feel it is OK to have a troll and many ergers go elsewhere for advice such as virtual team web sites.

[Bob S.]

Been there done that got no where. So I guess they feel it is OK to have a troll and many ergers go elsewhere for advice such as virtual team web sites.

Do you specifically know of any that have gone elsewhere? Obviously there are some, including you, that have not.

Bob S.

[jliddil]

A bunch of people in Free Spirits never come here to post

JD

[gregsmith01748]

I still monitor the US forum and post every once in a while, but the Free Spirits forum is a lot more active (and more supportive). The community using the blogs on the UK site are also a really nice group.

The activity on many threads on the US forum is a lot lighter than it was this time last year.

[PaulH]

I still monitor the US forum and post every once in a while, but the Free Spirits forum is a lot more active (and more supportive). The community using the blogs on the UK site are also a really nice group.

The activity on many threads on the US forum is a lot lighter than it was this time last year.

Interesting - I've always found that the UK forum is busier than the UK one, even back when it was part of the main C2 site. Not sure why that would be. As to whether posting here is lighter than last year I have no idea, though it's entirely possible. Given that you don't have to read threads that you don't want to, would you say that ranger's thread has an impact on that, and if so how?

[bellboy]

I still monitor the US forum and post every once in a while, but the Free Spirits forum is a lot more active (and more supportive). The community using the blogs on the UK site are also a really nice group.

The activity on many threads on the US forum is a lot lighter than it was this time last year.

Interesting - I've always found that the UK forum is busier than the UK one, even back when it was part of the main C2 site. Not sure why that would be. As to whether posting here is lighter than last year I have no idea, though it's entirely possible. Given that you don't have to read threads that you don't want to, would you say that ranger's thread has an impact on that, and if so how?

Exactly. If you dont want to read his guff you dont have to. I read it because its like watching a car crash in slow motion with a bit of Robert Frost thrown in when he fails do something...again.

[Bob S.]

I still monitor the US forum and post every once in a while, but the Free Spirits forum is a lot more active (and more supportive). The community using the blogs on the UK site are also a really nice group.

I generally avoid the club forums and threads as well because they are - well - too clubby - as might be expected. The folks that generally use those seem to be well acquainted with one another and I definitely feel like an outsider and, if I post on them, an intruder as well. Even more so with the UK forum, where a lot of the members have actually met each other in person.

I find it hard to believe that the one errant thread would make that much difference. It didn't seem to hurt the volume on the UK forum before the ban, although there were a few members who said that they might quit because of it. At the time, it had a lot more responders than this thread has now and, even though there was very little ranger activity on the US forum at that time, there was very little other activity as well.

It has been several years now since the forum had to switch systems because of the big hacking problem and it has never really recovered after that sort-of meltdown.

Bob S.

[ben990]

When is ranger due back?

[gregsmith01748]

I wasn't trying to draw a causal link between the ranger thread and traffic on the forum. It just seems like the number of posters is a bit fewer this year, and some of the folks that posted regularly do so more infrequently now.

As for whether the ranger thread is a deterrent, I doubt it, but if you monitor the forum by looking at new posts, this thread, and the lunatics thread seem to be the most active. If you just join up and are lurking to try to figure out what this is all about, you might get a pretty warped view. When I first started looking at the forum about 18 months ago, there were a lot of people posting daily training, PBs, and other training related stuff. I don't have the data, but it seems like these threads are less active.

By the way, I feel exactly the same way about this thread. I just can't stop reading it. Its more like some kind of twisted erg version of Jersey Shore or some other reality show than anything else. I mean really, going to an arena, warming up and then deciding not to race. Who could make this stuff up?

[ranger]

I mean really, going to an arena, warming up and then deciding not to race. Who could make this stuff up?

No need to make anything up.

The situation is entirely understandable.

For the last few years, I have been training, trying to get better, rather than preparing to race.

Race preparation never made anyone any better.

This makes it pretty hard to race, given that I have been rowing my 2Ks at WR pace.

Nonetheless, just to participate, I have indeed been racing.

So, sometimes, I just don't feel up for racing, although I can't get a feel for these things until just before I race.

Anyone else--past, present, or future--would feel exactly the same as I do about these things.

No one else rows WR level 2Ks without preparing for them.

It's too hard on you.

A WR-level 2K is _severely_ anaerobic.

Ouch.

The decisions I have been making at race venues is something like this:

Should I walk barefoot across this pretty long stretch of hot coals, or not?

This past year, I decided not.

In 2009 and 2010, at my best, I ended up pulling lwt 6:41s, right about WR pace, without even preparing for my races.

These results were the best for my age both years.

In fact, no one my age (58, 59) and weight (lwt) had ever rowed that fast.

ranger

[bellboy]

I mean really, going to an arena, warming up and then deciding not to race. Who could make this stuff up?

No need to make anything up.

The situation is entirely understandable.

For the last few years, I have been training, trying to get better, rather than preparing to race.

Race preparation never made anyone any better.

This makes it pretty hard to race, given that I have been rowing my 2Ks at WR pace.

Nonetheless, just to participate, I have indeed been racing.

So, sometimes, I just don't feel up for racing, although I can't get a feel for these things until just before I race.

Anyone else--past, present, or future--would feel exactly the same as I do about these things.

No one else rows WR level 2Ks without preparing for them.

It's too hard on you.

A WR-level 2K is _severely_ anaerobic.

Ouch.

The decisions I have been making at race venues is something like this:

Should I walk barefoot across this pretty long stretch of hot coals, or not?

This past year, I decided not.

In 2009 and 2010, at my best, I ended up pulling lwt 6:41s, right about WR pace, without even preparing for my races.

These results were the best for my age both years.

In fact, no one my age (58, 59) and weight (lwt) had ever rowed that fast.

ranger

Welcome back into the bosom of your flock O great one. We did think you would be back sooner rather than later as nobody came out to play with you on your UK blog did they? How are you Rich? While you were gone Byron posted a stonking butternut squash dish. Whether this will help with your weight control is another matter. Now iv checked the rankings and i cant quite see the FM world record that you were promising a month ago? Have you forgotten to post it?

[ben990]

I mean really, going to an arena, warming up and then deciding not to race. Who could make this stuff up?

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For the last few years, I have been training, trying to get better, rather than preparing to race.

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ranger

Hooray! ranger is back!

I propose you update your signature:

Rich Cureton - trying to get better since 2006 (6:29 ... and then 6:41 ... and now 7:02.3)