New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

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Sakly
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » June 18th, 2024, 9:24 am

HornetMaX wrote:
June 18th, 2024, 8:31 am
Taper week before 2K time trial this week-end, went for a 500m TT to build confidence.
Not a big improvement, but 1:35.3 (from 1:36.6) and much less fly and die than usual. Good 'nough. Hopefully.

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Time 	Meters 	Pace 	Watts 	Cal/Hr 	S/M 	HR
1:35.3 	500m 	1:35.3 	404 	1691 	38 	176
0:23.7 	125m 	1:34.8 	411 	1713 	40 	165
0:23.6 	250m 	1:34.4 	416 	1731 	38 	176
0:23.8 	375m 	1:35.2 	406 	1696 	38 	180
0:24.1 	500m 	1:36.4 	391 	1644 	37 	183
1.3s on a short distance is not a big improvement? 🤔
We must live in different worlds :lol:

Well done and good luck for your 2k!
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by bassongirl » June 18th, 2024, 1:48 pm

After thursdays 10k pb I had the feeling I had to retest my 2k. Well, yes! Current pb was 8:43.3 with a 2:10.8 pace.

Shaved of nearly 10sec:

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
8:33.9 2,000m 2:08.4 165 868 26 183
2:10.2 500m 2:10.2 159 845 27 178
2:10.7 1,000m 2:10.7 157 839 26 181
2:07.9 1,500m 2:07.9 167 875 26 185
2:05.1 2,000m 2:05.1 179 915 28 188

I'm really :wink: proud that my consistent training is paying off.
I think I will try the 5k PP after my holiday in july as recommended here.
36yo, FHWT, 1,75m, First erg March 2023
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » June 18th, 2024, 2:03 pm

bassongirl wrote:
June 18th, 2024, 1:48 pm
I'm really :wink: proud that my consistent training is paying off.
Hahaha, that's more like it!!! Well done Julia, it's only ever achieved through hard work
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » June 18th, 2024, 2:06 pm

HornetMaX wrote:
June 18th, 2024, 8:31 am
Taper week before 2K time trial this week-end, went for a 500m TT to build confidence.
Not a big improvement, but 1:35.3 (from 1:36.6) and much less fly and die than usual. Good 'nough. Hopefully.

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Time 	Meters 	Pace 	Watts 	Cal/Hr 	S/M 	HR
1:35.3 	500m 	1:35.3 	404 	1691 	38 	176
0:23.7 	125m 	1:34.8 	411 	1713 	40 	165
0:23.6 	250m 	1:34.4 	416 	1731 	38 	176
0:23.8 	375m 	1:35.2 	406 	1696 	38 	180
0:24.1 	500m 	1:36.4 	391 	1644 	37 	183
When it's not a 'big' improvement, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's not big.

Sometimes it's big because you're firing on all cylinders, and sometimes it's, on face value, small but it's actually
just as big because you're so close to your limit that it means a lot more.

Well done 👏
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by HornetMaX » June 18th, 2024, 3:17 pm

Sakly wrote:
June 18th, 2024, 9:24 am
1.3s on a short distance is not a big improvement? 🤔
Yeah, because previous PB was 6 months old (tbh, I trained mostly for a FM in between) and kind of underpar compared to my longer stuff like 5K/10K/HM (I'm starting to think that, because age or whatever, I'm sort of better at longer stuff).
Sakly wrote:
June 18th, 2024, 9:24 am
We must live in different worlds :lol:
On that I do agree (but that should make it easier for me to improve 2s than it is for you, I guess) :)
1973, 173cm (5'8"), LW, started rowing Sep 2021 (after 10 years of being a couch potato), c2 log
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Kerry1960 » June 18th, 2024, 3:23 pm

HornetMaX wrote:
June 18th, 2024, 8:31 am
Taper week before 2K time trial this week-end, went for a 500m TT to build confidence.
Not a big improvement, but 1:35.3 (from 1:36.6) and much less fly and die than usual. Good 'nough. Hopefully.

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Time 	Meters 	Pace 	Watts 	Cal/Hr 	S/M 	HR
1:35.3 	500m 	1:35.3 	404 	1691 	38 	176
0:23.7 	125m 	1:34.8 	411 	1713 	40 	165
0:23.6 	250m 	1:34.4 	416 	1731 	38 	176
0:23.8 	375m 	1:35.2 	406 	1696 	38 	180
0:24.1 	500m 	1:36.4 	391 	1644 	37 	183
Nice row Max. That's a big improvement over 500. Good luck with the 2k.
After having 3 goes at the CTC (624m) this month I also did a 500 yesterday for a new PB by 0.5s. Fly/Die is the only thing that works for me on 500s. In fact I might even try it on a 1k judging that if I can get to 750 at 1:40 pace or less then a big PB is in the bag no matter what pain I"m in!

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:34.4 500m 1:34.4 416 1731 38
0:22.9 125m 1:31.6 455 1867 39
0:22.7 250m 1:30.8 468 1909 40
0:23.8 375m 1:35.2 406 1696 38
0:24.9 500m 1:39.6 354 1519 36
M64 6ft 2, 1.90m,14st 4lbs (200), 90 kg, NW England
First erg Jan 2023
PBs 500m 1:34.4, 1k 3:30.9, 2k 7:32.3
5k 20:09, 6k 24:30, 30m 7310m, 30r20 7133m

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » June 18th, 2024, 3:53 pm

iain wrote:
June 12th, 2024, 6:14 am
KeithT wrote:
June 11th, 2024, 12:18 pm
...I don't see the 5 second difference with Paul's law either - I have a larger gap with the shorter rows and a smaller with the longer.
Apologies for deviation from the thread, but looking at the PBs in your signature, your "Paul's constant" seems to be fairly constant from 500 - 2k at about 8S/doubling. This is higher than I have seen before in a fit rower, but as someone who is generally better at the shorter stuff, I would have expected 6-7S and it is unusual for this to continue below 1k so this might suggest that 500 is relatively "soft". It then varies alot, but is indeed lower. That could be because some PBs are better than others eg 5k (although if there is a change, this could be explained by the change happening between 2k & 5k). I was surprised that it actually increases for your hour which many manage at a pace much closer to their 10k, but as HM is more typical compared to the hour, perhaps your 10k is just particularly good.
Great observations. My 10K was done when I was prob feeling my best and my 60 minutes is old and I never tested it at my best. I also think my scores are a little different in that when doing a lot of PBs I was focusing on the specific distance.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » June 18th, 2024, 3:56 pm

bassongirl wrote:
June 13th, 2024, 11:57 am
New 10k pb :D

I had the afternoon off and kids are away overnight. I decided to attempt the 10k time trial I planned for sunday after following the 10k plan by RowAlong for 5 month. Well, I was quite nervous as I never tried a real 10k time trial. Although I felt quite rested my HR was way to high starting with 100 pbm :o
Than at 1 km (which didn't feel well at all) my husband called me and I had to quit. After that I tried again. Again pace felt too slow and HR too high. But I didn't want to give up and just rowed on and on. I was pretty sure I wouldn't be able to achieve my goal of a sub 2:20 pace. I just wanted to see how far I could row. But than I sneaked up to the 2:20 and gave nearly everything I could HR being far beyond AT. I ended up with a 2:19.8 pace and 46:36.1 improving my pb by 1:09 minute. Quite proud :D

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
46:36.1 10,000m 2:19.8 128 740 23 173
4:45.5 1,000m 2:22.7 120 714 23 163
4:44.1 2,000m 2:22.0 122 720 23 161
4:43.6 3,000m 2:21.8 123 722 23 164
4:41.6 4,000m 2:20.8 125 731 23 172
4:41.7 5,000m 2:20.8 125 731 23 169
4:41.3 6,000m 2:20.6 126 732 23 175
4:39.7 7,000m 2:19.8 128 740 23 179
4:37.0 8,000m 2:18.5 132 753 24 182
4:35.4 9,000m 2:17.7 134 761 24 184
4:26.3 10,000m 2:13.1 148 810 25 188
Excellent! What a good strong finish too.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » June 19th, 2024, 2:06 am

HornetMaX wrote:
June 18th, 2024, 3:17 pm
Sakly wrote:
June 18th, 2024, 9:24 am
1.3s on a short distance is not a big improvement? 🤔
Yeah, because previous PB was 6 months old (tbh, I trained mostly for a FM in between) and kind of underpar compared to my longer stuff like 5K/10K/HM (I'm starting to think that, because age or whatever, I'm sort of better at longer stuff).
Sakly wrote:
June 18th, 2024, 9:24 am
We must live in different worlds :lol:
On that I do agree (but that should make it easier for me to improve 2s than it is for you, I guess) :)
I'm better at longer stuff, too. Not convinced that's based on age. I think it's more related to type of training in the past and muscle conditioning (slow twitch-fast twitch ratio).
I recently improved my skierg 500 by 1.3s in a random try, the last one was 4 month ago. The skierg probably let's me get some greater gains, as I'm kind of newbee at it :lol:
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Tandstad » June 19th, 2024, 3:10 am

bassongirl wrote:
June 18th, 2024, 1:48 pm
After thursdays 10k pb I had the feeling I had to retest my 2k. Well, yes! Current pb was 8:43.3 with a 2:10.8 pace.

Shaved of nearly 10sec:

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
8:33.9 2,000m 2:08.4 165 868 26 183
2:10.2 500m 2:10.2 159 845 27 178
2:10.7 1,000m 2:10.7 157 839 26 181
2:07.9 1,500m 2:07.9 167 875 26 185
2:05.1 2,000m 2:05.1 179 915 28 188

I'm really :wink: proud that my consistent training is paying off.
I think I will try the 5k PP after my holiday in july as recommended here.
Beautiful stuff, congratulations :D
39YO, 188 cm, 115 kg, NOR. Instagram: jtands
1K: 2:59(2020), 2K: 6:16(2020), 5K: 16:44(2020), 10K: 34:44(2020), 30min: 8743m(2020), 30r20: 8416(2020), 60min: 16851(2021) HM: 1:16:19(2020)

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Tandstad » June 19th, 2024, 3:13 am

HornetMaX wrote:
June 18th, 2024, 8:31 am
Taper week before 2K time trial this week-end, went for a 500m TT to build confidence.
Not a big improvement, but 1:35.3 (from 1:36.6) and much less fly and die than usual. Good 'nough. Hopefully.

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Time 	Meters 	Pace 	Watts 	Cal/Hr 	S/M 	HR
1:35.3 	500m 	1:35.3 	404 	1691 	38 	176
0:23.7 	125m 	1:34.8 	411 	1713 	40 	165
0:23.6 	250m 	1:34.4 	416 	1731 	38 	176
0:23.8 	375m 	1:35.2 	406 	1696 	38 	180
0:24.1 	500m 	1:36.4 	391 	1644 	37 	183
Awesome work, 1.3 secs is a great improvement when you are into unchartered territory :)
39YO, 188 cm, 115 kg, NOR. Instagram: jtands
1K: 2:59(2020), 2K: 6:16(2020), 5K: 16:44(2020), 10K: 34:44(2020), 30min: 8743m(2020), 30r20: 8416(2020), 60min: 16851(2021) HM: 1:16:19(2020)

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by iain » June 19th, 2024, 5:00 am

bassongirl wrote:
June 18th, 2024, 1:48 pm
After thursdays 10k pb I had the feeling I had to retest my 2k. Well, yes! Current pb was 8:43.3 with a 2:10.8 pace.
Shaved of nearly 10sec:

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
8:33.9 2,000m 2:08.4 165 868 26 183
2:10.2 500m 2:10.2 159 845 27 178
2:10.7 1,000m 2:10.7 157 839 26 181
2:07.9 1,500m 2:07.9 167 875 26 185
2:05.1 2,000m 2:05.1 179 915 28 188
Awesome improvement and really strong second half without raising your rating. I think with a bit of work getting used to higher ratings you could be significantly sub 8:30 even without the 5k training!
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by RWAGR » June 19th, 2024, 8:13 am

Took 9.5 seconds off my 5k yesterday, which made me happy!

17:46.7 5,000m 1:46.6 288 1292 29
3:33.1 1,000m 1:46.5 289 1295 29
3:34.2 2,000m 1:47.1 285 1280 29
3:34.5 3,000m 1:47.2 284 1276 29
3:34.0 4,000m 1:47.0 286 1283 29
3:30.9 5,000m 1:45.4 298 1327 30
Rob, 40, 6'1", 188 lbs. Potomac, MD, USA (albeit English-Australian originally).

2k: 6:45.4 (2023)
5k: 17:46.7 (2024)
30': 8,182 (2024)
10k: 36:49.9 (2024)
60’: 15,967 (2024)
HM: 1:20:27.4 (2024)
FM: 2:48:21.4 (2024)
100k: 7:43:28.2 (2024)

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by ahooton » June 19th, 2024, 8:15 am

RWAGR wrote:
June 19th, 2024, 8:13 am
Took 9.5 seconds off my 5k yesterday, which made me happy!

17:46.7 5,000m 1:46.6 288 1292 29
3:33.1 1,000m 1:46.5 289 1295 29
3:34.2 2,000m 1:47.1 285 1280 29
3:34.5 3,000m 1:47.2 284 1276 29
3:34.0 4,000m 1:47.0 286 1283 29
3:30.9 5,000m 1:45.4 298 1327 30
Fantastic! That time would make me very happy too!
M 6’4. 96Kg 43
2k - 6:43.0
5k - 17:45
6k - 21:43
10k - 37:09
30 mins-8179
1hr - 15829m
HM - 1:21.44
FM - 2:56.56

Sakly
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » June 19th, 2024, 8:19 am

RWAGR wrote:
June 19th, 2024, 8:13 am
Took 9.5 seconds off my 5k yesterday, which made me happy!

17:46.7 5,000m 1:46.6 288 1292 29
3:33.1 1,000m 1:46.5 289 1295 29
3:34.2 2,000m 1:47.1 285 1280 29
3:34.5 3,000m 1:47.2 284 1276 29
3:34.0 4,000m 1:47.0 286 1283 29
3:30.9 5,000m 1:45.4 298 1327 30
Huge improvement and a really fast 5k!
Congratulations :)
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

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