Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

I'm pretty sure nobody cares much about your 2K times in the 2009 and 2008 seasons. It is the 6:16 2K quest everyone is here to see ... or not see it seems. That also applies to every pace/rate/distance combination derived from the 6:16 2K.

Really?

That doesn't seem to be the case at all.

Just the opposite.

Top-ranked 2K times, done at public race venues, are exactly what you would like to see, especially if they are the best in history for some age and weight, as mine have been over the last two years, without even preparing to race.

On the other hand, no one here seems at all interested in my quest for a 6:16 2K. On that issue, you all have just hung around to scoff and scorn at everything associated with it--the goal itself, my training methods, my daily training, my daily schedule, etc.

ranger

[ranger]

At FM paces, the difference between 9 SPI and 11.5 SPI is right around 10 seconds per 500m, 1:48 @ 24 spm (11.5 SPI) vs. 1:58 @ 24 spm (9 SPI).

ranger

[hjs]

I'm pretty sure nobody cares much about your 2K times in the 2009 and 2008 seasons. It is the 6:16 2K quest everyone is here to see ... or not see it seems. That also applies to every pace/rate/distance combination derived from the 6:16 2K.

Really?

That doesn't seem to be the case at all.

Just the opposite.

Top-ranked 2K times, done at public race venues, are exactly what you would like to see, especially if they are the best in history for some age and weight, as mine have been over the last two years, without even preparing to race.

On the other hand, no one here seems at all interested in my quest for a 6:16 2K. On that issue, you all have just hung around to scoff and scorn at everything associated with it--the goal itself, my training methods, my daily training, my daily schedule, etc.

ranger

If you really training for 6.16 people would, but al we see is nothing and the few races you manage to attent and complete get slower and slower each year in the big picture.
And yes you claim to be not ready, but you being not ready is getting worse and worse. It this your first plus 7 year? I think it is.

And yes you are not ready and yes you keep changing and changing, but the goal is now so far away, it's not even on the horizon anymore.

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[hjs]

At FM paces, the difference between 9 SPI and 11.5 SPI is right around 10 seconds per 500m, 1:48 @ 24 spm (11.5 SPI) vs. 1:58 @ 24 spm (9 SPI).

ranger

Two new World Records were set in Finland on April 16-17:
Antti Varis Men 50+ Hwt Marathon 2:29.47.9 (1:46.5)
Jari Heikkilä Men 40+ Lwt 24h, 277420m.




Antti likes to row at max drag, hiigh rate.
Maybe he should contect "the best trainer" in the world. After all 146.5 age 50 for a not so big man is piss poor

Annti rows 33/34 spm halfway, so he pulled 8.5 Spi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwB2Ar8bx_s

[ranger]

Annti rows 33/34 spm halfway, so he pulled 8.5 Spi

Sure.

But I stopped hauling anchor like that years and years ago.

You can't row OTW with your back and arms, neglecting your legs.

You also can't do as well in a 2K OTErg.

What does Annti do for 2K OTErg?

Pulling 8.5 SPI, to compete with the best 50s hwts, Annti would have to rate 50 spm for 2K.

ranger

[ranger]

al we see is nothing and the few races you manage to attent and complete get slower and slower each year in the big picture. And yes you claim to be not ready, but you being not ready is getting worse and worse. It this your first plus 7 year? I think it is. And yes you are not ready and yes you keep changing and changing, but the goal is now so far away, it's not even on the horizon anymore.

Yes, as I said, you have no interest in my quest for a 6:16 2K at all.

You just hang around here to sneer and scorn, anything and everything.

To each his own.

My training has been perfect.

I have done just what I needed to do to prepare to row 6:16 for 2K.

I needed to learn to row well (13 SPI) at low drag (95 df.).

Fait accompli.

No veteran has ever rowed well.

ranger

[hjs]

Annti rows 33/34 spm halfway, so he pulled 8.5 Spi

Sure.

But I stopped hauling anchor like that years and years ago.

You can't row OTW with your back and arms, neglecting your legs.

You also can't do as well in a 2K OTErg.

What does Annti do for 2K OTErg?

Pulling 8.5 SPI, to compete with the best 50s hwts, Annti would have to rate 50 spm for 2K.

ranger

accourding to you the fm man, is also the best 2 k man.


ps. stopped? look at your birc video

[ranger]

accourding to you the fm man, is also the best 2 k man

Sure, if you row well at low drag, it's inevitable.

The FM is a great 2K predictor.

You can't row a great 2K pulling 8.5 SPI.

ranger

[hjs]

accourding to you the fm man, is also the best 2 k man

Sure, if you row well at low drag, it's inevitable.

The FM is a great 2K predictor.

You can't row a great 2K pulling 8.5 SPI.

ranger

Looking at his fm sprint Antti wil have no problem upping that. spi means nothing at all. pace is the only meaningfull number.
Your 2 k is Antti s fm marathon pace

[ranger]

If you were really training for 6.16 people would, but all we see is nothing

If by "really training," you mean working on my fitness, that would have no effect on my 2K at all.

My fitness has been maximal for a decade, and because I am aging, my aerobic capacity has been declining.

After 2003, when my fitness became maximal, I didn't have any hope of improving my 2K time by continuing to work on my fitness.

Given that you think the only "real" training is work on fitness and, all else equal, my fitness was maximal in 2003, when I pulled 6:28, you have no interest in my quest for 6:16.

You are just hanging around here to sneer and scorn--anything and everything associated with this goal.

ranger

[KevJGK]

If you were really training for 6.16 people would, but all we see is nothing

You are just hanging around here to sneer and scorn--anything and everything associated with this goal.

But you’ve never posted anything remotely associated with this 06:16 goal.

[snowleopard]

I have done just what I needed to do to prepare to row 6:16 for 2K.

I needed to learn to row well (13 SPI) at low drag (95 df.).

Fait accompli.

Nothing is 'accompli'. You haven't done a 6:16 2K.

And BTW, we're all here because you need the attention. Why are you here?

[bellboy]

I have done just what I needed to do to prepare to row 6:16 for 2K.

I needed to learn to row well (13 SPI) at low drag (95 df.).

Fait accompli.

Nothing is 'accompli'. You haven't done a 6:16 2K.

And BTW, we're all here because you need the attention. Why are you here?

Because his wife stopped speaking to him in 2001.

[hjs]

If you were really training for 6.16 people would, but all we see is nothing

If by "really training," you mean working on my fitness, that would have no effect on my 2K at all.

My fitness has been maximal for a decade, and because I am aging, my aerobic capacity has been declining.

After 2003, when my fitness became maximal, I didn't have any hope of improving my 2K time by continuing to work on my fitness.

Given that you think the only "real" training is work on fitness and, all else equal, my fitness was maximal in 2003, when I pulled 6:28, you have no interest in my quest for 6:16.

You are just hanging around here to sneer and scorn--anything and everything associated with this goal.

ranger

Training means improving, if you don't improve you are doing something wrong. Or if you are above 40 and are very fit, you simply will get slower, there is no way of getting around that. Erging is simple, all you show is simply this......
7 years of slowing down despite high drag, low drag, spreakback, etc ect etc.

[ranger]

It looks as though 25 spm will be the rate I will shoot for in my FM trial.

At 25 spm, I don't go any slower than 1:48 and can sometimes get it down to 1:42.

Can't believe I can now pull 13 SPI at 95 df. and feel as comfortable as can be.

1:48 @ 25 spm is 11 SPI.

So I am pulling between 11 SPI and 13 SPI, usually right about in the middle of this range, 12 SPI.

ranger