New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

[KeithT]

Today I need to post in this thread - long time ago

Skierg warmup for the gym session, a little bit sharper:

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M
15:00.0	3,848m	1:56.9	219	1053	30
3:00.0	763m	1:57.9	213	1033	30
6:00.0	769m	1:57.0	218	1051	30
9:00.0	767m	1:57.3	217	1045	30
12:00.0	768m	1:57.1	217	1048	31
15:00.0	781m	1:55.2	229	1087	31

After that I had another go at our monthly team challenge, a 500m. I had nothing in mind, didn't feel really good, but not bad either, so I thought to start strong and hold on as good as possible.

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M
1:27.1	500m	1:27.1	530	2122	41
0:17.0	100m	1:25.0	570	2261	42
0:16.9	200m	1:24.5	580	2296	43
0:17.4	300m	1:27.0	532	2129	41
0:17.8	400m	1:29.0	496	2008	40
0:18.1	500m	1:30.5	472	1925	43

Could shave off over 2s from my (really old) PB, and nearly 3s from the first go few days ago. This was more in the range I have expected based on my current form
On a good recovered day probably 1:26.x could happen.

Bam!!! That's a big improvement for such a short distance! With sprints no being your best thing this is a very good time and like you said could prob get it down even more. Love these unplanned PBs.

[Dangerscouse]

Could shave off over 2s from my (really old) PB, and nearly 3s from the first go few days ago. This was more in the range I have expected based on my current form

Great result Sascha. That's a really big improvement

[Sakly]

Bam!!! That's a big improvement for such a short distance! With sprints no being your best thing this is a very good time and like you said could prob get it down even more. Love these unplanned PBs.

Great result Sascha. That's a really big improvement

Thx gents!
Indeed, it is a big improvement, but after over a year I expect an improvement at least like this. Old PB was from December '22, so probably there is more to get on a really good day (which I had on the day of the old PB, I can remember that day ).
This time I started around 1:24, but I know I can go down to 1:21 for the first 100-200m. But this will affect the last 300 much more, so not sure if I will get benefit from it, if it is not a super duper strong day

[KeithT]

Bam!!! That's a big improvement for such a short distance! With sprints no being your best thing this is a very good time and like you said could prob get it down even more. Love these unplanned PBs.

Great result Sascha. That's a really big improvement

Thx gents!
Indeed, it is a big improvement, but after over a year I expect an improvement at least like this. Old PB was from December '22, so probably there is more to get on a really good day (which I had on the day of the old PB, I can remember that day ).
This time I started around 1:24, but I know I can go down to 1:21 for the first 100-200m. But this will affect the last 300 much more, so not sure if I will get benefit from it, if it is not a super duper strong day

You can definitely get away more with a fly and die in the 500 as long as you don't completely crash.

[DavidA]

Today I need to post in this thread - long time ago

Skierg warmup for the gym session, a little bit sharper:

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M
15:00.0	3,848m	1:56.9	219	1053	30
3:00.0	763m	1:57.9	213	1033	30
6:00.0	769m	1:57.0	218	1051	30
9:00.0	767m	1:57.3	217	1045	30
12:00.0	768m	1:57.1	217	1048	31
15:00.0	781m	1:55.2	229	1087	31

After that I had another go at our monthly team challenge, a 500m. I had nothing in mind, didn't feel really good, but not bad either, so I thought to start strong and hold on as good as possible.

Code: Select all

Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M
1:27.1	500m	1:27.1	530	2122	41
0:17.0	100m	1:25.0	570	2261	42
0:16.9	200m	1:24.5	580	2296	43
0:17.4	300m	1:27.0	532	2129	41
0:17.8	400m	1:29.0	496	2008	40
0:18.1	500m	1:30.5	472	1925	43

Could shave off over 2s from my (really old) PB, and nearly 3s from the first go few days ago. This was more in the range I have expected based on my current form
On a good recovered day probably 1:26.x could happen.

Wow!
Very nice.

David

[Sakly]

Today I need to post in this thread - long time ago

Skierg warmup for the gym session, a little bit sharper:

Code: Select all

Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M
15:00.0	3,848m	1:56.9	219	1053	30
3:00.0	763m	1:57.9	213	1033	30
6:00.0	769m	1:57.0	218	1051	30
9:00.0	767m	1:57.3	217	1045	30
12:00.0	768m	1:57.1	217	1048	31
15:00.0	781m	1:55.2	229	1087	31

After that I had another go at our monthly team challenge, a 500m. I had nothing in mind, didn't feel really good, but not bad either, so I thought to start strong and hold on as good as possible.

Code: Select all

Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M
1:27.1	500m	1:27.1	530	2122	41
0:17.0	100m	1:25.0	570	2261	42
0:16.9	200m	1:24.5	580	2296	43
0:17.4	300m	1:27.0	532	2129	41
0:17.8	400m	1:29.0	496	2008	40
0:18.1	500m	1:30.5	472	1925	43

Could shave off over 2s from my (really old) PB, and nearly 3s from the first go few days ago. This was more in the range I have expected based on my current form
On a good recovered day probably 1:26.x could happen.

Wow!
Very nice.

David

Thank you, David

[aussie nick]

Today I need to post in this thread - long time ago

After that I had another go at our monthly team challenge, a 500m. I had nothing in mind, didn't feel really good, but not bad either, so I thought to start strong and hold on as good as possible.

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M
1:27.1	500m	1:27.1	530	2122	41
0:17.0	100m	1:25.0	570	2261	42
0:16.9	200m	1:24.5	580	2296	43
0:17.4	300m	1:27.0	532	2129	41
0:17.8	400m	1:29.0	496	2008	40
0:18.1	500m	1:30.5	472	1925	43

Could shave off over 2s from my (really old) PB, and nearly 3s from the first go few days ago. This was more in the range I have expected based on my current form
On a good recovered day probably 1:26.x could happen.

this is a massive PR - well done.

Makes me think 2 things...
- your 1k is looking out of date
- I need to attempt another 500 to try to put some a gap back between us! I have no idea how to race a 500m - what kind of start did you do?

[Sakly]

Today I need to post in this thread - long time ago

After that I had another go at our monthly team challenge, a 500m. I had nothing in mind, didn't feel really good, but not bad either, so I thought to start strong and hold on as good as possible.

Code: Select all

Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M
1:27.1	500m	1:27.1	530	2122	41
0:17.0	100m	1:25.0	570	2261	42
0:16.9	200m	1:24.5	580	2296	43
0:17.4	300m	1:27.0	532	2129	41
0:17.8	400m	1:29.0	496	2008	40
0:18.1	500m	1:30.5	472	1925	43

Could shave off over 2s from my (really old) PB, and nearly 3s from the first go few days ago. This was more in the range I have expected based on my current form
On a good recovered day probably 1:26.x could happen.

this is a massive PR - well done.

Makes me think 2 things...
- your 1k is looking out of date
- I need to attempt another 500 to try to put some a gap back between us! I have no idea how to race a 500m - what kind of start did you do?

Oh yes, 1k is much out of date, nearly 1 year old. I assume I could get near to your time in signature at this as well, so better do an update for both

For this PB attempt I started a bit conservatively to ensure not to crash and burn. I assume I could up the rate a tad more and go down to 1:22 in the beginning and then hold on for dear life

[aussie nick]

Today I need to post in this thread - long time ago

After that I had another go at our monthly team challenge, a 500m. I had nothing in mind, didn't feel really good, but not bad either, so I thought to start strong and hold on as good as possible.

Code: Select all

Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M
1:27.1	500m	1:27.1	530	2122	41
0:17.0	100m	1:25.0	570	2261	42
0:16.9	200m	1:24.5	580	2296	43
0:17.4	300m	1:27.0	532	2129	41
0:17.8	400m	1:29.0	496	2008	40
0:18.1	500m	1:30.5	472	1925	43

Could shave off over 2s from my (really old) PB, and nearly 3s from the first go few days ago. This was more in the range I have expected based on my current form
On a good recovered day probably 1:26.x could happen.

this is a massive PR - well done.

Makes me think 2 things...
- your 1k is looking out of date
- I need to attempt another 500 to try to put some a gap back between us! I have no idea how to race a 500m - what kind of start did you do?

Oh yes, 1k is much out of date, nearly 1 year old. I assume I could get near to your time in signature at this as well, so better do an update for both

For this PB attempt I started a bit conservatively to ensure not to crash and burn. I assume I could up the rate a tad more and go down to 1:22 in the beginning and then hold on for dear life

re start...i meant the first 3-4 strokes. Did you try a jolty/racing type start or did you just start with one long stroke? I have no idea what I'm supposed to be doing

re PRs, I'm sure you'll take over the rest of mine if you keep rowing. Age wise, you have so much more time on your side and you train really hard and consistently. I wish I'd discovered erg rowing 10 or more years earlier. My body is recovering worse, even than 2 years ago. I have two serious injuries from my rugby career that I will always have to manage and I'm at the point where I will very soon stop aspiring to break PRs to ensure my body stays healthy enough to be constantly active. I think I have got some improvement in a 500m if I can piece it all together and maybe a small improvement in the 1k if my body can withstand a month or more of good training but I think that's it. I think I have 'retired' my 2k and 5k ambitions already and I don't see myself ever enjoying longer stuff enough to try to race a 10k or 60min

my father is teaching me lawn bowls at the moment and maybe that'll be my next sport!

[Sakly]

re start...i meant the first 3-4 strokes. Did you try a jolty/racing type start or did you just start with one long stroke? I have no idea what I'm supposed to be doing

Ah, got it. I did two shorter strokes to get the flywheel moving, then directly transitioned to full strokes. Probably like 1/3, 2/3, full length. I think this suits me better, as I'm not very strong to get the flywheel moving from stop with a single heavy stroke, like I need to do for the current CTC

re PRs, I'm sure you'll take over the rest of mine if you keep rowing. Age wise, you have so much more time on your side and you train really hard and consistently. I wish I'd discovered erg rowing 10 or more years earlier. My body is recovering worse, even than 2 years ago. I have two serious injuries from my rugby career that I will always have to manage and I'm at the point where I will very soon stop aspiring to break PRs to ensure my body stays healthy enough to be constantly active. I think I have got some improvement in a 500m if I can piece it all together and maybe a small improvement in the 1k if my body can withstand a month or more of good training but I think that's it. I think I have 'retired' my 2k and 5k ambitions already and I don't see myself ever enjoying longer stuff enough to try to race a 10k or 60min

my father is teaching me lawn bowls at the moment and maybe that'll be my next sport!

- sounds like risk of injuries is very low for this sport
Jokes aside, I also faced the recovery issue some time ago. The years before I started erging, I felt really drained after each gym session and needed a full rest day to recover between them, compared to 10 years earlier, when I was doing at least 4 strength sessions combined with ~5 badminton sessions for at least two hours per week
Then I ran into the digestive issues soon after I started erging and I tried to solve it with adaptation of my diet. It was mindblowing. I always thought bad recovery was related to age and this should be like it is, but obviously I was wrong. After a short adaptation period for my metabolism (and probably some healing of inflammation and related problems in the body), my recovery and sleep was (and still is) so much better. I could start to do 3 gym sessions and go for long rowing sessions on my non-gym days, summing up 60k a week without fatigue. I only need 6 1/2 hours of sleep and I'm fully recovered, no stiff back issues after wakeup anymore (that was standard for me for years). I learned diet has so much influence to this.

Apart from this, injuries are another story.

[aussie nick]

- sounds like risk of injuries is very low for this sport

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two full ACL reconstructions on the same knee plus a torn and bulging disc. nothing to do with rowing but they limit me in lots of ways eg can't squat, lunge, run. my right ankle also arthritic already after a really bad dislocation. happily, living in a warm climate really helps the arthritis

rowing is definitely the 'safest' sport for me other than swimming. but things still go wrong. i can tweak the back at full extension on the catch - twice last year each time was 4 weeks out. and my right leg is way stronger (and 5 cm larger) than my left which can also refer issues through my sciaatic nerve.

Don't play contact sports kids! either way, I'm happy i found rowing and it's allowed me to be more competitive than I'd been in 15 years.

[Sakly]

- sounds like risk of injuries is very low for this sport

two full ACL reconstructions on the same knee plus a torn and bulging disc. nothing to do with rowing but they limit me in lots of ways eg can't squat, lunge, run. my right ankle also arthritic already after a really bad dislocation. happily, living in a warm climate really helps the arthritis

rowing is definitely the 'safest' sport for me other than swimming. but things still go wrong. i can tweak the back at full extension on the catch - twice last year each time was 4 weeks out. and my right leg is way stronger (and 5 cm larger) than my left which can also refer issues through my sciaatic nerve.

Don't play contact sports kids! either way, I'm happy i found rowing and it's allowed me to be more competitive than I'd been in 15 years.

That doesn't sound like too much fun.
I only played football for a year as small kid, then transitioned to single sports and never competitive. Inlineskating, then started fitness/strength training, added badminton for nearly 10 years. Incorporated much more bodyweight into training after quitting badminton, to get a much brighter base of movements and mobility. And two years ago, yep, I landed here with my own rower
So nothing risky in terms of injuries, and luckily I never had severe injuries.

Hope you stay well and can get some sufficient training month in

[DavidA]

I haven't skied before, but I had to get a skierg recently (mid-Dec).
This past Friday I set a PB of 12017 m in an hour.
I know it's not much, but I was very excited to break 12 km for a seated skierg session.
(I got a verification code, but, when I entered it in the log I found out the date in my PM5 was wrong. (I assumed it would be correct in a new machine, and hadn't checked it.)

David

[Dangerscouse]

I haven't skied before, but I had to get a skierg recently (mid-Dec).
This past Friday I set a PB of 12017 m in an hour.
I know it's not much, but I was very excited to break 12 km for a seated skierg session.
(I got a verification code, but, when I entered it in the log I found out the date in my PM5 was wrong. (I assumed it would be correct in a new machine, and hadn't checked it.)

David

Congratulations David. It doesn't matter if it's a lot or a little of metres, it's all about what it feels like to you.

[fancyoats]

Hey guys,
I decided to chase a new pb for 6k this morning - my old one was from last June (woefully outdated - I’ve come a long way since then)

New one:
Splits
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
28:09.8 6,000m 2:20.8 125 731 20 172
4:43.2 1,000m 2:21.6 123 724 20 160
4:43.0 2,000m 2:21.5 124 725 20 168
4:42.8 3,000m 2:21.4 124 726 20 173
4:42.6 4,000m 2:21.3 124 726 20 177
4:42.3 5,000m 2:21.1 124 728 20 178
4:35.8 6,000m 2:17.9 133 759 20 180

Old one:
Splits
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
30:17.4 6,000m 2:31.4 101 646 16 163
5:04.3 1,000m 2:32.1 99 641 17 154
5:03.8 2,000m 2:31.9 100 643 16 159
5:06.7 3,000m 2:33.3 97 634 16 160
5:08.3 4,000m 2:34.1 96 628 16 161
5:06.9 5,000m 2:33.4 97 633 17 167
4:47.4 6,000m 2:23.7 118 705 19 178