Ranger's training thread
Re: Ranger's training thread
Wow.
If I pull 30 spm @ 11 SPI and 95 df. for a HM, then what?
That predicts a 6:04 2K.
At just a standard 36 spm, 11 SPI is right around the 50s lwt 2K WR and the 60s hwt 2K WR.
1:42 for a HM is a dozen seconds per 500m faster than the 60s lwt HM WR.
ranger
If I pull 30 spm @ 11 SPI and 95 df. for a HM, then what?
That predicts a 6:04 2K.
At just a standard 36 spm, 11 SPI is right around the 50s lwt 2K WR and the 60s hwt 2K WR.
1:42 for a HM is a dozen seconds per 500m faster than the 60s lwt HM WR.
ranger
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Re: Ranger's training thread
ranger wrote:I need to warm up and be a lot fresher than I am now in order to row as well as I can at 40 spm (I have already done my 20K for the day), but here are a few successive strokes at 95 df., just done in my street clothes, etc.
I'll do a video with 50 strokes tomorrow morning after I am warmed up and rowing well.
ranger
Again a no you don't.............

Re: Ranger's training thread
Sure, I'll get a video of the 50 strokes.hjs wrote:ranger wrote:I need to warm up and be a lot fresher than I am now in order to row as well as I can at 40 spm (I have already done my 20K for the day), but here are a few successive strokes at 95 df., just done in my street clothes, etc.
I'll do a video with 50 strokes tomorrow morning after I am warmed up and rowing well.
ranger
Again a no you don't.............
I can't do it this morning, though.
I forgot to charge the battery for my digital camera after playing around with it yesterday.
I'll do the video tomorrow.
ranger
Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: Ranger's training thread
You mean you dont have a spare set on charge?ranger wrote:Sure, I'll get a video of the 50 strokes.hjs wrote:ranger wrote:I need to warm up and be a lot fresher than I am now in order to row as well as I can at 40 spm (I have already done my 20K for the day), but here are a few successive strokes at 95 df., just done in my street clothes, etc.
I'll do a video with 50 strokes tomorrow morning after I am warmed up and rowing well.
ranger
Again a no you don't.............
I can't do it this morning, though.
I forgot to charge the battery for my digital camera after playing around with it yesterday.
I'll do the video tomorrow.
ranger
Any photos of your trashed bike yet?
Steve
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No, but that's a good idea.Steve G wrote:You mean you dont have a spare set on charge?
The battery for my camera runs down _very_ quickly.
Is that common for digital camera bateries?
ranger
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Re: Ranger's training thread
yes it isranger wrote:No, but that's a good idea.Steve G wrote:You mean you dont have a spare set on charge?
The battery for my camera runs down _very_ quickly.
Is that common for digital camera bateries?
ranger
Re: Ranger's training thread
From TWITTER:
Breaking news!
ranger's "battery" has "run down"
Sherlock still constipated (NSS)...
Also: This just in: ranger now talking of a HM instead of a FM...
Our British correspondent, lancs, concurs: the letters "FM" to disappear from ranger posts for many months...

Just a few days now and we'll be done with the illusion... "FM by the end of the month"
What's next on tap in the "ranger's hollow predictions" dept...?
Will it be 6:16 2k "in the fall"? "Unfinished business"
How about: 'Going up to Door County to row 40k OTW everyday at 2:05 pace' ?
The soap opera continues... as is "should"//
Breaking news!
ranger's "battery" has "run down"
Sherlock still constipated (NSS)...
Also: This just in: ranger now talking of a HM instead of a FM...
Our British correspondent, lancs, concurs: the letters "FM" to disappear from ranger posts for many months...



Just a few days now and we'll be done with the illusion... "FM by the end of the month"
What's next on tap in the "ranger's hollow predictions" dept...?
Will it be 6:16 2k "in the fall"? "Unfinished business"
How about: 'Going up to Door County to row 40k OTW everyday at 2:05 pace' ?
The soap opera continues... as is "should"//

Re: Ranger's training thread
I think Ranger's camera has got used to taking a break after every 10 shots. 

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Re: Ranger's training thread
etc etcRanger's camera wrote:
Taking pictures at 11 SPI (Spurious Picture Index) which is proper picture taking for a little lightweight camera like me.
New shutter action is smooth as butta.
Full movie coming up in the next month or so.
Re: Ranger's training thread
My favorite part of the battery excuse is that he's proposing to video around 2 minutes of rowing, which I'd guess 10-15 minutes of charging would take care of. But no, we'll have to wait until 'tomorrow'.
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IMO: We don't need any more video than this:
http://www.c2forum.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 11#p159411
After having a few chuckles, turn the sound off.. Watch the head. Watch the rowing "over the top" (Weight goes up ^... and then goes down on his seat at the release)....
Slides would get rid of this in a hurry, Rich... Hope you will consider adding these to your "must have" equipment and will get access to them soon.
You know, I kid you a whole lot... but, with some easy adjustment, you can redirect the force vectors of your rowing to drive a boat smoothly over the surface of the water instead of down into it.
http://www.c2forum.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 11#p159411
After having a few chuckles, turn the sound off.. Watch the head. Watch the rowing "over the top" (Weight goes up ^... and then goes down on his seat at the release)....
Slides would get rid of this in a hurry, Rich... Hope you will consider adding these to your "must have" equipment and will get access to them soon.
You know, I kid you a whole lot... but, with some easy adjustment, you can redirect the force vectors of your rowing to drive a boat smoothly over the surface of the water instead of down into it.
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Considering it will take seven more years to adjust to a drag of 95 I would think redirecting force vectors would take far longer.mikvan52 wrote:... but, with some easy adjustment, you can redirect the force vectors of your rowing to drive a boat smoothly over the surface of the water instead of down into it.
So I have to ask ... is this just an evil plot to avoid racing ranger in the same category until you are both 100???
JimR
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Don't bite your nails down too far in nervous anticipation.PaulH wrote:My favorite part of the battery excuse is that he's proposing to video around 2 minutes of rowing, which I'd guess 10-15 minutes of charging would take care of. But no, we'll have to wait until 'tomorrow'.
They bleed.


You might also try switching channels on your T.V.
Perhaps there is a better show elsewhere.
ranger
Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: Ranger's training thread
Sure.mikvan52 wrote:ranger now talking of a HM instead of a FM
And 60min, and 10K, and 30min, and 6K, and 5K.
After the FM.
ranger
Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: Ranger's training thread
No longer, at any drag, and certainly not at 95 df.mikvan52 wrote:Watch the head. Watch the rowing "over the top" (Weight goes up ^... and then goes down on his seat at the release)....
I have learned how to relax my shoulders and abs at the catch, and my shoulders when I set my heels, engage my abs, and swing my back.
That's what has made it so that I can now row so easily and naturally at 95 df.
The low drag then encourages quick legs even further.
I'll get a video up in a couple of days showing how I do it now.
At 95 df., I now get a very solid 11-12 SPI, as my force curve illustrates, with up to 120 kg.F of peak force in the middle of my drive when I set my heels and push, finishing my legs with my hams and gluts.
That just isn't possible for a little lightweight to do by anchor-hauling.
Sure.
I can't wait to try these things out in my Fluid.
ranger
Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)