Train With Xeno

johnlvs2run · Post by **johnlvs2run** » December 30th, 2007, 1:07 am

philrow wrote:That was training just three times a day

Phil, just think if you increased your training to 6 times a day.

gregory.cook · Post by **gregory.cook** » December 30th, 2007, 1:37 am

Jamie Pfeffer wrote:2K: 6:34.3 (1:38.57 avg)

Nice. Sub 6:30 in Boston?

philrow · Post by **philrow** » December 30th, 2007, 2:52 am

John Rupp wrote:
philrow wrote:That was training just three times a day
Phil, just think if you increased your training to 6 times a day.

I could only imagine!! Ok, you got me.

Three times a week.

Jamie Pfeffer · Post by **Jamie Pfeffer** » December 30th, 2007, 10:53 am

gregory.cook wrote:
Jamie Pfeffer wrote:2K: 6:34.3 (1:38.57 avg)
Nice. Sub 6:30 in Boston?

If I can stay only 2 full seconds per 500 meters behind you, then I should be able to go sub 6:30. I assume that you're going to finish around 6:20.

Greg, you're America's best hope in our event for a medal. Think about that next time you need some motivation. Seriously.

gregory.cook · Post by **gregory.cook** » December 30th, 2007, 12:37 pm

Jamie Pfeffer wrote:
gregory.cook wrote:
Jamie Pfeffer wrote:2K: 6:34.3 (1:38.57 avg)
Nice. Sub 6:30 in Boston?
If I can stay only 2 full seconds per 500 meters behind you, then I should be able to go sub 6:30. I assume that you're going to finish around 6:20.

Greg, you're America's best hope in our event for a medal. Think about that next time you need some motivation. Seriously.

I will be nowhere near 6:20. My goal all year has been 6:29.9 and I'm not sure I can get it. Seconds are precious.

However, I'm guessing that you, only on the erg since September, have some significant improvements yet.

Jamie Pfeffer · Post by **Jamie Pfeffer** » December 30th, 2007, 1:50 pm

Listen, Greg: You're ranked #1 in the world (in the world!) at every distance from 100 meters to full marathon. Elvis didn't have that many #1s.

You were at 6:32 last month. And you still have two months to go. Mr. Burns would tell you that you WILL DOMINATE AND CRUSH EVERYONE.

Rowmaniac · Post by **Rowmaniac** » December 30th, 2007, 2:04 pm

Hate to interrupt a testosterone-filled thread, but I can't wait to watch you BOTH row in Boston! I should live so long ( or get a time machine to go back a decade) to see a "6" in front of my 2K time.

A lot can happen in 8 weeks. I wouldn't bet against either of you. Keep up the great work. It helps to hear about all your great training.

Now, back on the ergs, the both of you.

Right, like I needed to add that....

gregory.cook · Post by **gregory.cook** » December 30th, 2007, 4:32 pm

Jamie Pfeffer wrote:Listen, Greg: You're ranked #1 in the world (in the world!) at every distance from 100 meters to full marathon. Elvis didn't have that many #1s.

You were at 6:32 last month. And you still have two months to go. Mr. Burns would tell you that you WILL DOMINATE AND CRUSH EVERYONE.

Then Mr. Burns isn't very realistic. And don't forget that you have the top spot for the hour.

Jamie Pfeffer · Post by **Jamie Pfeffer** » December 30th, 2007, 5:58 pm

Thanks. But there's no glamour in The Hour. Fans love the 2K. Plus, you rowed your 60-minute piece months ago. It's sprinting season now. And you're leading the pack for 2K.

As Deb mentioned for her age group, it's a shame the class is 30-39. Splitting it into 30-34 and 35-39 seems fairer to me. A 30-year-old rower is in his prime. We're not ancient of course. But, often a 36- or 38-year old has many more demands outside training than does a 30-year old -- such as a job, spouse, kids. BIRC's decision to have 30-34 and 35-39 comprises that reality much better.

Rowmaniac · Post by **Rowmaniac** » December 30th, 2007, 6:52 pm

I'm chiming in to second that thought once more, Jamie.

The CRASH B people were nice when I inquired whether they had considered "the extremely inequitable age range of 40-49", but they have no plans to follow the BIRC just yet. I was told that they had discussed it in Board meetings (members of which, according to the woman who wrote back to me, suffer my unfortunate age range of 45-49 and were sympathetic...)

However, can I just whine for a second and say if you are going to label MY 40-49 age group SENIOR WOMEN, the least they could do is start it at 45! I don't feel like a senior anything, but I sure didn't qualify at 40 and neither should they!

Your comment re: 30-39 life demands outside of rowing is also an excellent point.

Perhaps some of us more persuasive types should take up this cause before next year's race. 10 years is an eternity when trying to maintain the fitness level and power you had at 30 or 40.

Off my soapbox....

philrow · Post by **philrow** » December 30th, 2007, 7:25 pm

Jamie Pfeffer wrote:We're not ancient of course.

Right...

Jamie Pfeffer · Post by **Jamie Pfeffer** » December 30th, 2007, 11:06 pm

The sport seems better supported and organized in the UK.

Sunday
(1) AM: (a) Weights;
(b) 120-minute row: 31,951 meters; 1:52.7 avg; 23 spm = 11.5 m/p/s/; 244.7 watts.

(2) PM (a) strapless 30r23-24: 8060 meters;
(b) minute on, minute off: damper at 9, maximum rate and power.

m.calvin · Post by **m.calvin** » January 1st, 2008, 1:32 pm

Well, after a long break through illness, started back to training yesterday! And It didnt go to well. Set out to do the the 70' ergo(2x20) And finish up being a 50'(2x10).

Today was better, had a little more energy and completed a 60'(2x20) But still not firing on all cylinders. But I will get back to full fitnes in a couple of weeks.

I normally do 30' rate 20 at 1.57s, but at the moment can pull 1.57 for 20'

Did 1.59s for 2x20 so not a milion miles away

Hows the prep going jamie you erging machine?

philrow · Post by **philrow** » January 1st, 2008, 5:23 pm

Hey Jamie, what do you think about both of those January plans? It's nice that he gave them both for comparison. And how about that picture of him at the laundromat?

I personally just think he's hilarious between that picture, his language -- "2k full throttle take no prisoners," "and finally come to the final 350m tear the bloody rowing machine to shreds, understood?
XENO," the way he generally expresses himself -- and just his general demeanor. He's a great guy, and entertaining!!

I think I might have some more questions for you about January's training later.

Phil

Jamie Pfeffer · Post by **Jamie Pfeffer** » January 1st, 2008, 7:36 pm

It was solid comedy. I like in the "100k, 200K" video, he says, "I like to keep rowing when I take a water break because I don't want the clock to stop because I'm lazy" [Pauses, makes very serious face and says,] "I'm not lazy! Let's go!"