New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

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Sakly
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » October 26th, 2022, 8:55 am

winniewinser wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 8:45 am
Sakly wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 8:24 am
Tiny little PB of -1.7s in my todays 5k TT for team challenge (messed up training schedule, stupid point of time, but no other possibility...)

Code: Select all

Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	
17:56.7	5,000m	1:47.6	280	1265	32	174
Backing up a sub 18 with another is always a good thing. (I never managed it and the moment has passed now)
Sure, verification/repetition of a PB is always welcome 😄

I remember a 17:59.x in your signature (which is now gone)...?! Or you meant never managed to go sub 18 again?
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

winniewinser
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » October 26th, 2022, 9:10 am

Sakly wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 8:55 am
winniewinser wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 8:45 am
Sakly wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 8:24 am
Tiny little PB of -1.7s in my todays 5k TT for team challenge (messed up training schedule, stupid point of time, but no other possibility...)

Code: Select all

Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	
17:56.7	5,000m	1:47.6	280	1265	32	174
Backing up a sub 18 with another is always a good thing. (I never managed it and the moment has passed now)
Sure, verification/repetition of a PB is always welcome 😄

I remember a 17:59.x in your signature (which is now gone)...?! Or you meant never managed to go sub 18 again?
Distant memory....or maybe that's my age :lol: :lol: .....yeah never backed it up....twas a miracle row never to be repeated B)

The desire to hurt myself that much is not there now......so PB's irrelevant
6'2" 52yo
Alex
Recent 2k - 7:19
All time 2k - 6:50.2 (LW)

Sakly
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » October 26th, 2022, 9:31 am

winniewinser wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 9:10 am
Sakly wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 8:55 am
I remember a 17:59.x in your signature (which is now gone)...?! Or you meant never managed to go sub 18 again?
Distant memory....or maybe that's my age :lol: :lol: .....yeah never backed it up....twas a miracle row never to be repeated B)

The desire to hurt myself that much is not there now......so PB's irrelevant
Haha, c'mon you're not a skeleton 😂
Wake up your body and mind to sharpen the rows again 😁

The curious thing for me is, this row was not taking all of me mentally, it was only my muscles to limit the outcome.
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

winniewinser
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » October 26th, 2022, 9:54 am

Sakly wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 9:31 am
winniewinser wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 9:10 am
Sakly wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 8:55 am
I remember a 17:59.x in your signature (which is now gone)...?! Or you meant never managed to go sub 18 again?
Distant memory....or maybe that's my age :lol: :lol: .....yeah never backed it up....twas a miracle row never to be repeated B)

The desire to hurt myself that much is not there now......so PB's irrelevant
Haha, c'mon you're not a skeleton 😂
Wake up your body and mind to sharpen the rows again 😁

The curious thing for me is, this row was not taking all of me mentally, it was only my muscles to limit the outcome.
:lol: :lol: ....it's not the age or physical limitations it's the desire.

Even in my short time erging I have had the elations of PB's, racing virtually at the Worlds on my birthday and setting a 2km PB and breaking a few milestone rows. The flipside was that I found myself doing it more for the clammer of social media and no longer for proving something to myself. A few dodgy HR incidents, a couple of Covid setbacks, some personal digs on Social Media.....the rowjo diminishes and the urge to really hurt is not there. Do I really want a coronary incident trying to set a meaningless PB.....or do I want to exercise to be healthy and get back to doing it for me alone....no contest.

My experiment of no longer posting on Instagram/Facebook has definitely been a positive one. I feel less SM pressure to do something worthy of posting. I recently posted a CTC result but quickly deleted it after asking myself what I was doing that for.....a few likes and a number of 'well done's'.....short term positive but long term leave you wanting even more to get the same feeling.

I have some room for improvement on the Skierg and may try and improve my times for personal satisfaction but nothing else. Can't see myself training to the level required to break previous Rowerg PB's.

I will enjoy watching your progress though!
6'2" 52yo
Alex
Recent 2k - 7:19
All time 2k - 6:50.2 (LW)

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » October 26th, 2022, 10:40 am

winniewinser wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 9:54 am
Sakly wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 9:31 am
winniewinser wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 9:10 am


Distant memory....or maybe that's my age :lol: :lol: .....yeah never backed it up....twas a miracle row never to be repeated B)

The desire to hurt myself that much is not there now......so PB's irrelevant
Haha, c'mon you're not a skeleton 😂
Wake up your body and mind to sharpen the rows again 😁

The curious thing for me is, this row was not taking all of me mentally, it was only my muscles to limit the outcome.
:lol: :lol: ....it's not the age or physical limitations it's the desire.

Even in my short time erging I have had the elations of PB's, racing virtually at the Worlds on my birthday and setting a 2km PB and breaking a few milestone rows. The flipside was that I found myself doing it more for the clammer of social media and no longer for proving something to myself. A few dodgy HR incidents, a couple of Covid setbacks, some personal digs on Social Media.....the rowjo diminishes and the urge to really hurt is not there. Do I really want a coronary incident trying to set a meaningless PB.....or do I want to exercise to be healthy and get back to doing it for me alone....no contest.

My experiment of no longer posting on Instagram/Facebook has definitely been a positive one. I feel less SM pressure to do something worthy of posting. I recently posted a CTC result but quickly deleted it after asking myself what I was doing that for.....a few likes and a number of 'well done's'.....short term positive but long term leave you wanting even more to get the same feeling.

I have some room for improvement on the Skierg and may try and improve my times for personal satisfaction but nothing else. Can't see myself training to the level required to break previous Rowerg PB's.

I will enjoy watching your progress though!
Completely understand. I deleted my FB and Insta last year in November, because only time consuming and meaningless. Recreated FB only for the team participation, no profile info at all, no postings in timeline or other groups.
Since then much more time for important stuff, family, hobbies, life.

I do all my sports for myself, so I will never get into this trap of doing PB attempts or trainings for others. Sure, it gives a good feeling to get a thumbs up for a PB and some kind words, no question. But I do it to prove that I am capable of doing it, to gain mental as well as physical strength in many ways. This is also the reason why I do not specialize. I want to be able to jump into new sports, movements, whatever, any time I feel for it. Rowing was exactly this new kind of movement I started this year 😄
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » October 26th, 2022, 11:33 am

winniewinser wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 9:54 am
Sakly wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 9:31 am
winniewinser wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 9:10 am


Distant memory....or maybe that's my age :lol: :lol: .....yeah never backed it up....twas a miracle row never to be repeated B)

The desire to hurt myself that much is not there now......so PB's irrelevant
Haha, c'mon you're not a skeleton 😂
Wake up your body and mind to sharpen the rows again 😁

The curious thing for me is, this row was not taking all of me mentally, it was only my muscles to limit the outcome.
:lol: :lol: ....it's not the age or physical limitations it's the desire.

Even in my short time erging I have had the elations of PB's, racing virtually at the Worlds on my birthday and setting a 2km PB and breaking a few milestone rows. The flipside was that I found myself doing it more for the clammer of social media and no longer for proving something to myself. A few dodgy HR incidents, a couple of Covid setbacks, some personal digs on Social Media.....the rowjo diminishes and the urge to really hurt is not there. Do I really want a coronary incident trying to set a meaningless PB.....or do I want to exercise to be healthy and get back to doing it for me alone....no contest.

My experiment of no longer posting on Instagram/Facebook has definitely been a positive one. I feel less SM pressure to do something worthy of posting. I recently posted a CTC result but quickly deleted it after asking myself what I was doing that for.....a few likes and a number of 'well done's'.....short term positive but long term leave you wanting even more to get the same feeling.

I have some room for improvement on the Skierg and may try and improve my times for personal satisfaction but nothing else. Can't see myself training to the level required to break previous Rowerg PB's.

I will enjoy watching your progress though!
Before my recent health issues I had a post stating some of the same feelings. I just didn't seem to have "it" any more and was also noticing I didn't have as much desire. I also questioned the "why" of what I was doing. Right now I have been forced to change some priorities and I think it's likely they may remain changed.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » October 26th, 2022, 12:08 pm

KeithT wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 11:33 am
Before my recent health issues I had a post stating some of the same feelings. I just didn't seem to have "it" any more and was also noticing I didn't have as much desire. I also questioned the "why" of what I was doing. Right now I have been forced to change some priorities and I think it's likely they may remain changed.
I'm not surprised mate, I hope you change your mind though. I'm currently in a moment of indecision too, so we'll see if I conclude the same or not.

It looks like my weekly hot dynamic Pilates is going to end. After 10 years it's going to be a big change, but I've been noticing that I'm not recovering from it very quickly post-Covid so it's affecting my rowing, which then affects my mental health. So I was wondering if I needed to step back from it. That decision has been made for me now as the teacher is giving up, and there's no-one else that does anything similar.

The attrition rate is massive, and over the past 10 years I'm the only person who has carried on. There is one other woman who has been going for about four years, but apart from that no-one else has been going for longer than a year, or close to it.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by nick rockliff » October 26th, 2022, 1:12 pm

winniewinser wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 9:54 am
Sakly wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 9:31 am
winniewinser wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 9:10 am


Distant memory....or maybe that's my age :lol: :lol: .....yeah never backed it up....twas a miracle row never to be repeated B)

The desire to hurt myself that much is not there now......so PB's irrelevant
Haha, c'mon you're not a skeleton 😂
Wake up your body and mind to sharpen the rows again 😁

The curious thing for me is, this row was not taking all of me mentally, it was only my muscles to limit the outcome.
:lol: :lol: ....it's not the age or physical limitations it's the desire.

Even in my short time erging I have had the elations of PB's, racing virtually at the Worlds on my birthday and setting a 2km PB and breaking a few milestone rows. The flipside was that I found myself doing it more for the clammer of social media and no longer for proving something to myself. A few dodgy HR incidents, a couple of Covid setbacks, some personal digs on Social Media.....the rowjo diminishes and the urge to really hurt is not there. Do I really want a coronary incident trying to set a meaningless PB.....or do I want to exercise to be healthy and get back to doing it for me alone....no contest.

My experiment of no longer posting on Instagram/Facebook has definitely been a positive one. I feel less SM pressure to do something worthy of posting. I recently posted a CTC result but quickly deleted it after asking myself what I was doing that for.....a few likes and a number of 'well done's'.....short term positive but long term leave you wanting even more to get the same feeling.

I have some room for improvement on the Skierg and may try and improve my times for personal satisfaction but nothing else. Can't see myself training to the level required to break previous Rowerg PB's.

I will enjoy watching your progress though!
Back when I started it was a much different environment. Social media was only just starting and most people used the UK forum. Everything then seemed to be focused on the 2k and racing. BIRC was the pinnacle of the racing year, there was also a Concept 2 Grand Prix series and many smaller races country wide. I think I did about 15 races in the 2004-05 season. Most of the people on the forum also did the races so you got to know everybody in person rather than just an online user name. The regional races used to attract around 400 entrants and BIRC 2500 to 3000. There was over 100 in my class at my first BIRC.
67 6' 4" 108kg
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » October 26th, 2022, 2:29 pm

Sorry I highjacked the PB thread for my bleating 😂😂.... someone please set a PB to get it back on track 🤞👍
6'2" 52yo
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » October 28th, 2022, 10:55 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 12:08 pm
KeithT wrote:
October 26th, 2022, 11:33 am
Before my recent health issues I had a post stating some of the same feelings. I just didn't seem to have "it" any more and was also noticing I didn't have as much desire. I also questioned the "why" of what I was doing. Right now I have been forced to change some priorities and I think it's likely they may remain changed.
I'm not surprised mate, I hope you change your mind though. I'm currently in a moment of indecision too, so we'll see if I conclude the same or not.

It looks like my weekly hot dynamic Pilates is going to end. After 10 years it's going to be a big change, but I've been noticing that I'm not recovering from it very quickly post-Covid so it's affecting my rowing, which then affects my mental health. So I was wondering if I needed to step back from it. That decision has been made for me now as the teacher is giving up, and there's no-one else that does anything similar.

The attrition rate is massive, and over the past 10 years I'm the only person who has carried on. There is one other woman who has been going for about four years, but apart from that no-one else has been going for longer than a year, or close to it.
I have said before - I will always workout and ERG, just don't think my days of winning WRISC and competing at the highest level are in the cards. When Dr. tested my T-levels they were within normal range but on lower end and then I have had the recent issues. I have never been the same since COVID - had one or two months back in March where I thought I was but it went away. I am thinking of switching to rowing 3 days a week too and doing different workouts. I am going to attempt to build back some more intense rows as permitted and will see how they go. The biggest change I think is I can accept not being a top rower now when before I wouldn't have.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » October 28th, 2022, 11:34 am

KeithT wrote:
October 28th, 2022, 10:55 am
I have said before - I will always workout and ERG, just don't think my days of winning WRISC and competing at the highest level are in the cards. When Dr. tested my T-levels they were within normal range but on lower end and then I have had the recent issues. I have never been the same since COVID - had one or two months back in March where I thought I was but it went away. I am thinking of switching to rowing 3 days a week too and doing different workouts. I am going to attempt to build back some more intense rows as permitted and will see how they go. The biggest change I think is I can accept not being a top rower now when before I wouldn't have.

Sounds very sensible under the circumstances. Health first.
6'2" 52yo
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Recent 2k - 7:19
All time 2k - 6:50.2 (LW)

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » October 28th, 2022, 1:25 pm

KeithT wrote:
October 28th, 2022, 10:55 am

I have said before - I will always workout and ERG, just don't think my days of winning WRISC and competing at the highest level are in the cards. When Dr. tested my T-levels they were within normal range but on lower end and then I have had the recent issues. I have never been the same since COVID - had one or two months back in March where I thought I was but it went away. I am thinking of switching to rowing 3 days a week too and doing different workouts. I am going to attempt to build back some more intense rows as permitted and will see how they go. The biggest change I think is I can accept not being a top rower now when before I wouldn't have.
Good to hear you're getting your head around the issue, and seeing the solutions. It's also very interesting that it felt like you were getting better and then regressed. That does sound really strange
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by aussie nick » November 11th, 2022, 12:39 am

new 500m PR - 1.26.9

annoyingly between my warm up and the tt I left the room so my phone lost connection with the erg and I didn't manage to upload it. The splits tell the tale though

100 1.23.0/500 47
200 1.23.5/500 43
300 1.26.0/500 38
400 1.28.5/500 44
500 1.33.0/500 42

totally ran out of power in the final 150 when the legs felt like floppy rope. Also feel I made several mistakes - first two strokes didn't have enough power, I had a weird drop in sr in the third 100 and I could have got one more stroke in at the end.

I would like to try it again with fresher legs - it was my 6th session in 5 days and when you see 1.5 seconds or more disappear off your split in the final 100 it’s hard not to think about what might have been. But, maybe that’s what happens in the sprints?

Still…it’s a PR and at my age, I’ll take every one I get.
Last edited by aussie nick on November 11th, 2022, 1:00 am, edited 1 time in total.
M/52/6ft/86kg
took up rowing during pandemic

500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » November 11th, 2022, 12:50 am

aussie nick wrote:
November 11th, 2022, 12:39 am
new 500m PR - 1.26.9
Wow!
Don't know your previous best, but this is a great result!

After a row we always know what we could have done better.
So you can learn from it and PB again 💪🏻
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by aussie nick » November 11th, 2022, 1:02 am

Sakly wrote:
November 11th, 2022, 12:50 am
aussie nick wrote:
November 11th, 2022, 12:39 am
new 500m PR - 1.26.9
Wow!
Don't know your previous best, but this is a great result!

After a row we always know what we could have done better.
So you can learn from it and PB again 💪🏻
thanks. previous best was in the Aus champs 2 weeks ago and was 1.28.5, but I knew that was soft. Otherwise I hadn't attempted a 500 since my crossfit days when I believe I had done a 1.28.9 or something
M/52/6ft/86kg
took up rowing during pandemic

500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m

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