Ranger's training thread

[PaulH]

All I ask is that it demonstrate more than 1 stroke taken at 13 spi.

I have posted several videos of rowing at 13 SPI and above, all the way up to 16 SPI.

You want me to post these again, because you missed them?

ranger

Sure, I'll happily apologize if I've missed such a thing. So yes please, post just one of the videos of you rowing entirely naturally at a consistent 13 spi with 119 df. As these numbers are your choice, not mine, I imagine you'll be able to back them up with a display of the df from the monitor to start the video off. I'd be fascinated to see your rowing technique when you're doing it, but really just the monitor would be fine.

[ranger]

Sorry, Paul.

I just don't understand what you are up to.

I'll row the FM at low drag (119 df.).

Will I row it all at 13 SPI.

Probably not.

I'll probably trade some rate for pace, given the length of the piece, and given that it is a race.

I suspect that 12 SPI will be fine, or even a little less.

The row is free rate.

The issue is my HR when rowing 1:48, which is a product of the _ease_ of the stroking at 12 SPI, given that I normally train at 13 SPI.

ranger

[ranger]

Sure, I'll happily apologize if I've missed such a thing. So yes please, post just one of the videos of you rowing entirely naturally at a consistent 13 spi with 119 df. As these numbers are your choice, not mine, I imagine you'll be able to back them up with a display of the df from the monitor to start the video off. I'd be fascinated to see your rowing technique when you're doing it, but really just the monitor would be fine.

Sure.

I'd be happy to.

I'll see what I can put together tomorrow morning.

As I mentioned, I'll probably trade some rate for pace when I race and do 1:34 @ 35 spm, which is 12 SPI.

But sure, I now row naturally at 13 SPI and 119 df.

And the 12 SPI @ 119 df. is still wildly different from anything I did back in 2002-2003, when I raced at 10 SPI and max drag.

The ratio of the former is twice the latter.

ranger

[PaulH]

Why trade rate for pace on a piece just a few seconds long? I can somewhat understand making changes over the course of a FM, but you've said on more than one occasion that 13 spi is your natural stroking power, so why not show us that? Don't row unnaturally on my behalf!

[snowleopard]

And the 12 SPI @ 119 df. is still wildly different from anything I did back in 2002-2003, when I raced at 10 SPI and max drag.

The ratio of the former is twice the latter.

In what way is the 'ratio' of 12 SPI @ 119 DF twice the 'ratio' of 10 SPI @ ~200 DF?

[ranger]

And the 12 SPI @ 119 df. is still wildly different from anything I did back in 2002-2003, when I raced at 10 SPI and max drag.

The ratio of the former is twice the latter.

In what way is the 'ratio' of 12 SPI @ 119 DF twice the 'ratio' of 10 SPI @ ~200 DF?

One is 3-to-1; the other is 1.5-to-1.

Etc.

One is 4-to-1; the other, 2-to-1.

Etc.

Clear?

ranger

[ranger]

Why trade rate for pace on a piece just a few seconds long? I can somewhat understand making changes over the course of a FM, but you've said on more than one occasion that 13 spi is your natural stroking power, so why not show us that? Don't row unnaturally on my behalf!

Sure.

No reason to.

I was just explaining myself.

There is no problem in modulating stroking power, depending on the task.

The problem is being incapable of rowing well--at all.

If you row most of your meters at 9 SPI, you will have a _hell_ of a time pulling 13 SPI.

If you row most of your meters at 13 SPI, 12 SPI will feel _really_ relaxed; 11 SPI will feel like nothing.

If you row most of your meters at 15 SPI, as I did for several years, 13 SPI will feel pretty easy.

It's all relative.

Clear?

ranger

[ranger]

I'd be fascinated to see your rowing technique

Why is that?

Many lightweights pull 13 SPI, easy as pie.

They are just younger than I am.

I row just like them.

I have described ad nauseum what you need to do as a lightweight to pull 13 SPI.

Sure, the problem is doing it.

But many people do it, and what you need to do to do it is no mystery at all.

ranger

[Gus]

He must spend several hours a day posting on here keeping up with the 10 or so active members on this thread which, in combination with the training he claims to do, doesn't leave much time for anything else I'm guessing. I feel sorry for his poor wife.. jeez.. imagine being married to the cretinous idiot?!?

Yes, I do feel sorry for the poor woman, but I'm sure she considers herself very fortunate that ranger spends hours posting on the forum and spends what he claims is a considerable amount of time training. It keeps him busy so she doesn't have to interact with him. I bet she's happy he's down in the basement and is oft tempted to lock the door.

[ranger]

Yes, I do feel sorry for the poor woman, but I'm sure she considers herself very fortunate that ranger spends hours posting on the forum and spends what he claims is a considerable amount of time training

I sleep five hours a night.

I train when my wife is asleep.

I am done by the time she wakes up.

I have been married for 35 years.

Most marriages now last a couple of years.

ranger

[whp4]

I bet she's happy he's down in the basement and is oft tempted to lock the door.

How do you know she doesn't?

[ranger]

I bet she's happy he's down in the basement and is oft tempted to lock the door.

How do you know she doesn't?

My wife and I are happily married.

That's pretty unusual these days, no?

We'll still be happily married when we are 90.

That will be our 65th anniversary.

ranger

[whp4]

Many lightweights pull 13 SPI, easy as pie.

I have described ad nauseum what you need to do as a lightweight to pull 13 SPI.

Sure, the problem is doing it.

But many people do it, and what you need to do to do it is no mystery at all.

The mystery is why you talk so much about doing it so little.

[whp4]

I bet she's happy he's down in the basement and is oft tempted to lock the door.

How do you know she doesn't?

My wife and I are happily married.

We'll see how long that lasts when she has you underfoot all the time...

[ranger]

Many lightweights pull 13 SPI, easy as pie.

I have described ad nauseum what you need to do as a lightweight to pull 13 SPI.

Sure, the problem is doing it.

But many people do it, and what you need to do to do it is no mystery at all.

The mystery is why you talk so much about doing it so little.

I do 20K a day.

That's enough.

I like to cross-train, too, in addition to rowing.

ranger