Ranger's training thread

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Re: Ranger's training thread

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Re: Ranger's training thread

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » March 2nd, 2011, 12:48 pm

jliddil wrote:
ranger wrote: As I have said repeatedly, I bike _after_ I erg, and just to relax, recover, and burn calories, as cross-training, oh, and perhaps, just to just stay used to doing a lot of work, e.g., running my HR at 155 bpm, steady state, for a couple of hours.

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Would you post verifiable evidence that you are running your heart rate at 155 for a couple of hours?
OTBike?

How?

I just have a Polar HR belt and watch.

When I race a FM OTErg, 1:48 @ 22 spm, I'll run my HR at 155 bpm, steady state, for the whole 2.5 hours.

Sure, then, I'll post the result.

The PM4 will record it.

I can't row 1:48 at a HR much under 155 bpm, or at least, I would be surprised if it happened.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » March 2nd, 2011, 3:22 pm

Sure, being able to run my HR at 155 bpm for two or three hours is a _huge_ advantage for a 60s rower.

That's why I am being careful to promote/maintain this ability.

I suspect that it would be difficult for most young rowers to run a HR of 155 bpm for a FM.

155 bpm is 70% of 220 bpm.

My resting HR is 40 bpm.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » March 2nd, 2011, 3:57 pm

BTW, a good stroke is exhausting, not aerobically, but skeletal-muscularly.

I am now taking a _lot_ good good strokes, and I feel the effects.

From day to day, after I row, ...

My ankles are tired.

My hip girdle aches.

My shoulders are sore.

My legs are wobbly.

My lats and delts feel swollen and fuzzy.

Interesting.

Sure, I am recovering from day to day, but with pretty different feelings, skeletal-muscularly, during the day.

I suspect that I will get used to it, as time goes on.

But right now, the skeletal-motor stress is considerable.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by lancs » March 2nd, 2011, 3:57 pm

ranger wrote:Sure, then, I'll post the result.
Are you able to post any session from your PM4 from the last two weeks? Absolutely anything at all?

Even just a daily list or something?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » March 2nd, 2011, 3:59 pm

lancs wrote:
ranger wrote:Sure, then, I'll post the result.
Are you able to post any session from your PM4 from the last two weeks? Absolutely anything at all?

Even just a daily list or something?
Sure, but I don't really see any reason to, until I race a FM.

Then, demonstrably, I will have a stroke I can use, with good consistency, relaxation, endurance, etc., to do races at shorter distances.

Of course, whether they recognize it or not, everyone else is in a similar situation.

You are only as good over 2K as your FM @ 22 spm.

Why?

A FM @ 22 spm displays your natural stroking power.

By and large, rowers of the same age and weight row a distance at the same rate.

The one with the more effective and efficient stroke, the greater natural stroking power, wins.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Carl Watts » March 2nd, 2011, 4:05 pm

lancs wrote:
ranger wrote:Sure, then, I'll post the result.
Are you able to post any session from your PM4 from the last two weeks? Absolutely anything at all?

Even just a daily list or something?
Can you please post a recent photo of your Erg ? There is no proof you do any training on one what so ever.
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