New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » March 31st, 2021, 1:30 pm

jsarche wrote:
March 30th, 2021, 7:29 pm


For a quite inelegant transition: I did a 10K today and wanted to share with you all my fourth new PB since late February - I squeaked in just under the deadline for the March event for the Indoor Rowers League, and chopped 1:03.6 off my previous PB, set in June 2020.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
39:15.5 10,000m 1:57.7 214 1037 25
7:48.7 2,000m 1:57.1 218 1048 25
7:52.2 4,000m 1:58.0 213 1032 25
7:53.2 6,000m 1:58.3 211 1027 25
7:53.2 8,000m 1:58.3 211 1027 25
7:48.3 10,000m 1:57.0 218 1050 27

I had set a goal of sub-39 minutes, but after starting out at that pace, I was pretty sure that for today I wasn't going to be able to hold onto it. Maybe on another day, but I needed to get this piece in to make sure I finished out the season with the IRL schedule. I feel like for how I felt going in, I paced it pretty much spot-on. Next time, I'm going to see that 38 on my monitor!
Well done, that's a big chunk to knock off your PB.
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Mal » April 5th, 2021, 8:05 am

First time poster.

I did a marathon and a 50K row - 2 weeks apart. Marathon (about my 5th time) was a PB at 2:55:02. Strange thing is that the 50K (2nd 50K effort) 2 weeks later, was a touch faster - with a slower average HR (130 average 50K vs 135 average FM)... I can't work out why that would be.

Training for a 100K in September 2021, any tips grateful. I will search the boards for any info. Think I can do it, but want to post a reasonable time (maybe <7 hrs). Hardest part is losing the tempo and rythym when slowing to drink or reaarange yourself. I'll need to plan this in a bit more detail.
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Rowing:2k 6:58.1, 5k 18:27.0,30 min 8043,10k 37:02.5, HM 1:21:34.5, FM 2:48:28.0, 50K 3:26:37.2, 100K 7:27:10.3
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » April 5th, 2021, 10:35 am

🚨HM PB by 1min 53sec 🚨...bit of longer base building today and I just happened to smash my HM PB in the process 💪😎

Not done a HM for a while so this hurt quite a bit but pleased to sneak under 1:57 avg.

Might even be worth an 🥚🍺 😁

1:22:14.7 21,097m 1:56.9 22
14:36.4 3,750m 1:56.8 22
14:38.6 7,500m 1:57.1 22
14:36.0 11,250m 1:56.8 22
14:37.9 15,000m 1:57.0 22
14:42.0 18,750m 1:57.6 22
9:03.7 21,097m 1:55.8 22

Feeling like I've been run over this afternoon 🥺
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » April 5th, 2021, 11:06 am

Mal wrote:
April 5th, 2021, 8:05 am
First time poster.

I did a marathon and a 50K row - 2 weeks apart. Marathon (about my 5th time) was a PB at 2:55:02. Strange thing is that the 50K (2nd 50K effort) 2 weeks later, was a touch faster - with a slower average HR (130 average 50K vs 135 average FM)... I can't work out why that would be.

Training for a 100K in September 2021, any tips grateful. I will search the boards for any info. Think I can do it, but want to post a reasonable time (maybe <7 hrs). Hardest part is losing the tempo and rythym when slowing to drink or reaarange yourself. I'll need to plan this in a bit more detail.
Those are two great rows! Not sure why the 50K was "easier" maybe because body was more used to the long distance. I have never done 50K or 100K but others will be sure to have some advice for you.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » April 5th, 2021, 11:10 am

winniewinser wrote:
April 5th, 2021, 10:35 am
🚨HM PB by 1min 53sec 🚨...bit of longer base building today and I just happened to smash my HM PB in the process 💪😎

Not done a HM for a while so this hurt quite a bit but pleased to sneak under 1:57 avg.

Might even be worth an 🥚🍺 😁

1:22:14.7 21,097m 1:56.9 22
14:36.4 3,750m 1:56.8 22
14:38.6 7,500m 1:57.1 22
14:36.0 11,250m 1:56.8 22
14:37.9 15,000m 1:57.0 22
14:42.0 18,750m 1:57.6 22
9:03.7 21,097m 1:55.8 22

Feeling like I've been run over this afternoon 🥺
Yet another smashing of a PB, this is fantastic, especially since you really haven't been training for it. Great pacing with a low SPM too!
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » April 5th, 2021, 11:27 am

Mal wrote:
April 5th, 2021, 8:05 am
First time poster.

I did a marathon and a 50K row - 2 weeks apart. Marathon (about my 5th time) was a PB at 2:55:02. Strange thing is that the 50K (2nd 50K effort) 2 weeks later, was a touch faster - with a slower average HR (130 average 50K vs 135 average FM)... I can't work out why that would be.

Training for a 100K in September 2021, any tips grateful. I will search the boards for any info. Think I can do it, but want to post a reasonable time (maybe <7 hrs). Hardest part is losing the tempo and rythym when slowing to drink or reaarange yourself. I'll need to plan this in a bit more detail.
Welcome to the forum Mal. If you search for 100km there is a fairly recent thread that I posted quite a lot of information to that may be useful. The main takeaway is that a 50k bears little resemblance to a 100k, as there are so many other factors at play, not least overtraining / overthinking the enormity of it all.

HR is quite a fickle measurement and it can vary depending on hydration, stress, heat, humidity amongst some other things, so it doesn't very much on a micro measurement: it's far more useful for a macro measurement and analysing trends. Part of the reason why the 50k was a bit easier faster will be due to physical and mental adaptions. You know it's possible, and your body has been bolstered from the training to make it more resilient.

As you're in the 50-59 HWT category a sub 7 hrs finish would possibly be a British record (if you're British). The record is 6:56.31 and has stood for 10 years so it's fair to say that is an excellent result, and 7:08 would put you top of the World Rankings for 50-59 in this year, and the past four years. Clearly a 'reasonable time' is subjective, but I'd say for a 57/58yo 8:30 is a very reasonable result.

Well done on the FM PB, that is a great result.
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » April 5th, 2021, 11:31 am

winniewinser wrote:
April 5th, 2021, 10:35 am
🚨HM PB by 1min 53sec 🚨...bit of longer base building today and I just happened to smash my HM PB in the process 💪😎

Not done a HM for a while so this hurt quite a bit but pleased to sneak under 1:57 avg.

Might even be worth an 🥚🍺 😁

1:22:14.7 21,097m 1:56.9 22
14:36.4 3,750m 1:56.8 22
14:38.6 7,500m 1:57.1 22
14:36.0 11,250m 1:56.8 22
14:37.9 15,000m 1:57.0 22
14:42.0 18,750m 1:57.6 22
9:03.7 21,097m 1:55.8 22

Feeling like I've been run over this afternoon 🥺
This is a huge PB mate. I didn't even notice the rate until Keith mentioned it. That's a strong pace at r22.

When you're not used to a HM, they can be a very different challenge, so this makes this even more of an effort.
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by gouldilocks » April 5th, 2021, 1:18 pm

winniewinser wrote:
April 5th, 2021, 10:35 am
🚨HM PB by 1min 53sec 🚨...bit of longer base building today and I just happened to smash my HM PB in the process 💪😎

Not done a HM for a while so this hurt quite a bit but pleased to sneak under 1:57 avg.

Might even be worth an 🥚🍺 😁

1:22:14.7 21,097m 1:56.9 22
14:36.4 3,750m 1:56.8 22
14:38.6 7,500m 1:57.1 22
14:36.0 11,250m 1:56.8 22
14:37.9 15,000m 1:57.0 22
14:42.0 18,750m 1:57.6 22
9:03.7 21,097m 1:55.8 22

Feeling like I've been run over this afternoon 🥺
Wow - brilliant row Alex - and quite a low rate for a "skinny" :lol:

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by nick rockliff » April 5th, 2021, 1:39 pm

winniewinser wrote:
April 5th, 2021, 10:35 am
🚨HM PB by 1min 53sec 🚨...bit of longer base building today and I just happened to smash my HM PB in the process 💪😎

Not done a HM for a while so this hurt quite a bit but pleased to sneak under 1:57 avg.

Might even be worth an 🥚🍺 😁

1:22:14.7 21,097m 1:56.9 22
14:36.4 3,750m 1:56.8 22
14:38.6 7,500m 1:57.1 22
14:36.0 11,250m 1:56.8 22
14:37.9 15,000m 1:57.0 22
14:42.0 18,750m 1:57.6 22
9:03.7 21,097m 1:55.8 22

Feeling like I've been run over this afternoon 🥺
Nice one Alex.
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PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by faach1 » April 5th, 2021, 2:03 pm

Mal wrote:
April 5th, 2021, 8:05 am
First time poster.

I did a marathon and a 50K row - 2 weeks apart. Marathon (about my 5th time) was a PB at 2:55:02. Strange thing is that the 50K (2nd 50K effort) 2 weeks later, was a touch faster - with a slower average HR (130 average 50K vs 135 average FM)... I can't work out why that would be.

Training for a 100K in September 2021, any tips grateful. I will search the boards for any info. Think I can do it, but want to post a reasonable time (maybe <7 hrs). Hardest part is losing the tempo and rythym when slowing to drink or reaarange yourself. I'll need to plan this in a bit more detail.
Wow nice Mal, that’s a lot of metres.

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » April 5th, 2021, 2:43 pm

KeithT wrote:
April 5th, 2021, 11:10 am
Yet another smashing of a PB, this is fantastic, especially since you really haven't been training for it. Great pacing with a low SPM too!
Thx Keith... bloomin hard first HM in a while 😳....but was always going to be a base rate/pace row so manageable. HR still got to 170+ mind.
Dangerscouse wrote:
April 5th, 2021, 11:31 am
This is a huge PB mate. I didn't even notice the rate until Keith mentioned it. That's a strong pace at r22.

When you're not used to a HM, they can be a very different challenge, so this makes this even more of an effort.
Thx bud 👊

Mentally tough from around 15k in but never going to stop. That's one thing that JDs training drills into you...better to finish slowly than not at all. I'd like sub 1:20:00 someday 🤞
gouldilocks wrote:
April 5th, 2021, 1:18 pm
Wow - brilliant row Alex - and quite a low rate for a "skinny" :lol:

Paul G
Lol... cheers Paul 👍🙏...my skinny butt is not made for long stuff 😂😂
nick rockliff wrote:
April 5th, 2021, 1:39 pm
Nice one Alex.
Cheers Nick 👊
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » April 6th, 2021, 2:41 am

winniewinser wrote:
April 5th, 2021, 10:35 am
🚨HM PB by 1min 53sec 🚨...bit of longer base building today and I just happened to smash my HM PB in the process 💪😎

Not done a HM for a while so this hurt quite a bit but pleased to sneak under 1:57 avg.

Might even be worth an 🥚🍺 😁

1:22:14.7 21,097m 1:56.9 22
14:36.4 3,750m 1:56.8 22
14:38.6 7,500m 1:57.1 22
14:36.0 11,250m 1:56.8 22
14:37.9 15,000m 1:57.0 22
14:42.0 18,750m 1:57.6 22
9:03.7 21,097m 1:55.8 22

Feeling like I've been run over this afternoon 🥺
One more PB crushed! :lol:
And plenty left regarding rating and current training focus, well done!
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » April 6th, 2021, 3:57 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
April 6th, 2021, 2:41 am
One more PB crushed! :lol:
And plenty left regarding rating and current training focus, well done!
Thx mate....I'll have a proper go at this at some point but my butt needs to recover first :lol: :lol: :lol:

60' TT next .....hoping to get a bit closer to 16k but I doubt I can get that milestone yet.
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Tandstad » April 6th, 2021, 4:05 am

winniewinser wrote:
April 5th, 2021, 10:35 am
🚨HM PB by 1min 53sec 🚨...bit of longer base building today and I just happened to smash my HM PB in the process 💪😎

Not done a HM for a while so this hurt quite a bit but pleased to sneak under 1:57 avg.

Might even be worth an 🥚🍺 😁

1:22:14.7 21,097m 1:56.9 22
14:36.4 3,750m 1:56.8 22
14:38.6 7,500m 1:57.1 22
14:36.0 11,250m 1:56.8 22
14:37.9 15,000m 1:57.0 22
14:42.0 18,750m 1:57.6 22
9:03.7 21,097m 1:55.8 22

Feeling like I've been run over this afternoon 🥺
Big congrats Alex, better in line with your other PB's, and once you can rate up towards 24-26, Perhaps even sub 1:21 is there :)
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1K: 2:59(2020), 2K: 6:16(2020), 5K: 16:44(2020), 10K: 34:44(2020), 30min: 8743m(2020), 30r20: 8416(2020), 60min: 16851(2021) HM: 1:16:19(2020)

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » April 6th, 2021, 4:08 am

Tandstad wrote:
April 6th, 2021, 4:05 am
Big congrats Alex, better in line with your other PB's, and once you can rate up towards 24-26, Perhaps even sub 1:21 is there :)
Thx bud.....I think this is close to max at the moment despite the low rating. With a few more practice runs I might be able to get close to 1:21.
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