My first 10,000M, How'd I do?

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My first 10,000M, How'd I do?

Post by nstrik » April 6th, 2007, 6:43 am

Love my new C2!
I didn't know how long 10,000M was, but I thought that I'd try it.
My time was 53:21.4.
How did I do? I like to try to get in a 45 minute morning workout, so I'm pretty happy with that type of C2 workout.

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Re: My first 10,000M, How'd I do?

Post by Tyn » April 6th, 2007, 7:40 am

nstrik wrote:Love my new C2!
I didn't know how long 10,000M was, but I thought that I'd try it.
My time was 53:21.4.
How did I do? I like to try to get in a 45 minute morning workout, so I'm pretty happy with that type of C2 workout.
If you make it in 45 min, that would be a huge improvement for you!!

Your pace was+/- 2:40 and for 45 min you should row at a pace of 2:15!


Good Luck and Happy rowing!
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Post by nstrik » April 6th, 2007, 8:26 am

Thanks! Is a 2:15 pace do-able? What kind of training do I need to do to reach a 45 minute 10,000M?

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Post by Kangaroo » April 6th, 2007, 9:14 am

I'd just keep doing set pieces - once you reach a certain level at fitness, you will find a "groove" of yours - where you will be able to keep a certain split forever and ever. Try to settle into a rhythm.

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Post by nstrik » April 6th, 2007, 9:17 am

Kangaroo wrote:I'd just keep doing set pieces - once you reach a certain level at fitness, you will find a "groove" of yours - where you will be able to keep a certain split forever and ever. Try to settle into a rhythm.
Thanks!

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Post by chgoss » April 6th, 2007, 12:28 pm

You might find some of this material on training plans and technique interesting, good luck with your rowing!

Tons of advice on the UK site for both.
http://www.concept2.co.uk/forum/index.php

Training plans:
I (sort of) follow the 'Pete' plan:
http://www.concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5409

Which I believe is a simpified version of the 'Wolverine' plan
http://www.c2forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4190&start=0

Concept 2 has an interactive plan:
http://www.concept2.co.uk/training/interactive.php

Technique:
If you want to see the best in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KldVh7Ly ... ed&search=

check this out:
http://www.ara-rowing.org/Asp/uploadedF ... %20erg.pdf

Xeno Muller has some great DVD's for sale.. #4 is great
http://www.gorow.com/indoor_rowing_DVD.htm

and lastly, if you have an erg at home, get Row Pro online racing
SW. I dont know what I would do w/out it..
http://www.digitalrowing.com/default.aspx?ItemId=41
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Post by TabbRows » April 6th, 2007, 12:39 pm

nstrik,

It's hard to tell by the time of your first row posted here what you are capable of doing. We don't have any rowing history, age, goals other distance times etc.. I know my "cheesy" dutch friend means well and probably a 2:15 pace what he does when warming up barefoot at a 12 spm rating. For this old geezerjock, sometimes a 2:15 is all I can do for a 1000 meters. But that may be way over what you can do today. Or you may have been sandbagging and never broke out in a sweat.
My suggestion is to search these threads for training plans like the Wolverine Plan or the UK C2 Forum's interactive rowing training guide and find a good begining level that fits your current state of fitness and erging/rowing experience. Then set a reasonable goal pace to work up to over a 4-6 week period. When that is reached or that pace is very comfortable, take the next step faster. There are plenty of folks on thsi forum who can "coach" you and be a cheering section for you--Tyn is a grat on for that! Xeno Muller's website has excellent training dvds. Paul Smith's ps-sport.net is an excellent resource too.

But most of all, have fun, and keep coming back and joining us.

ST

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Post by nstrik » April 6th, 2007, 12:57 pm

chgoss wrote:You might find some of this material on training plans and technique interesting, good luck with your rowing!

Tons of advice on the UK site for both.
http://www.concept2.co.uk/forum/index.php

Training plans:
I (sort of) follow the 'Pete' plan:
http://www.concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5409

Which I believe is a simpified version of the 'Wolverine' plan
http://www.c2forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4190&start=0

Concept 2 has an interactive plan:
http://www.concept2.co.uk/training/interactive.php

Technique:
If you want to see the best in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KldVh7Ly ... ed&search=

check this out:
http://www.ara-rowing.org/Asp/uploadedF ... %20erg.pdf

Xeno Muller has some great DVD's for sale.. #4 is great
http://www.gorow.com/indoor_rowing_DVD.htm

and lastly, if you have an erg at home, get Row Pro online racing
SW. I dont know what I would do w/out it..
http://www.digitalrowing.com/default.aspx?ItemId=41
Great Links!!!

Thanks!

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Post by nstrik » April 6th, 2007, 1:01 pm

TabbRows wrote:nstrik,

It's hard to tell by the time of your first row posted here what you are capable of doing. We don't have any rowing history, age, goals other distance times etc.. I know my "cheesy" dutch friend means well and probably a 2:15 pace what he does when warming up barefoot at a 12 spm rating. For this old geezerjock, sometimes a 2:15 is all I can do for a 1000 meters. But that may be way over what you can do today. Or you may have been sandbagging and never broke out in a sweat.
My suggestion is to search these threads for training plans like the Wolverine Plan or the UK C2 Forum's interactive rowing training guide and find a good begining level that fits your current state of fitness and erging/rowing experience. Then set a reasonable goal pace to work up to over a 4-6 week period. When that is reached or that pace is very comfortable, take the next step faster. There are plenty of folks on thsi forum who can "coach" you and be a cheering section for you--Tyn is a grat on for that! Xeno Muller's website has excellent training dvds. Paul Smith's ps-sport.net is an excellent resource too.

But most of all, have fun, and keep coming back and joining us.

ST
Thanks! I am 46, 225 lbs. I just set up my new C2 the other day and wanted to test myself. I think that I could have done a sub 50 minute time, but I wasn't sure how much fuel I would have in my tank.
I am going to check out some of the training plans and try the 10,000M again.
I'll keep you all posted!

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Post by coggs » April 6th, 2007, 4:47 pm

So much of erging is learning to pace. I was somewhat in the same boat as you last summer. I was a pretty out of shape 240 pound 50 year old. Good for you for doing a 10K right to start. I did a 1k as my intial benchmark. Was at a 2:01 pace and I thought I'd ie in the last minute. A week later I managed do do a 2K in less than 8 minutes. As I continued to erg every day I learned how to read my condition and capabilities and adjusted my workouts accordingly. By doing a mix of distance and speed work my times showed drastic improvements over the fall and winter. A few weeks ago I did a half marathon at a 1:58 pace and I finished in the top half of my age bracket at the WIRC in Feb. Those early days where you set a PB at nearly ever workout were fun. Now I'm glad to see drop in the bucket kinds of gains every so often. Remember that small improvements in speed require huge increases in power. It's not a linear relationship. And never forget to concentrate on technique above all.
If you don't try, you will never know how bad you suck.

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500M/1:38, 2K/7:02.3, 6K/22:17, 10K/38:31, 30'/7,700M, 60'/15,331M, HM /1hr 23:03 (all done back in 2007)

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Post by nstrik » April 6th, 2007, 4:54 pm

coggs wrote:So much of erging is learning to pace. I was somewhat in the same boat as you last summer. I was a pretty out of shape 240 pound 50 year old. Good for you for doing a 10K right to start. I did a 1k as my intial benchmark. Was at a 2:01 pace and I thought I'd ie in the last minute. A week later I managed do do a 2K in less than 8 minutes. As I continued to erg every day I learned how to read my condition and capabilities and adjusted my workouts accordingly. By doing a mix of distance and speed work my times showed drastic improvements over the fall and winter. A few weeks ago I did a half marathon at a 1:58 pace and I finished in the top half of my age bracket at the WIRC in Feb. Those early days where you set a PB at nearly ever workout were fun. Now I'm glad to see drop in the bucket kinds of gains every so often. Remember that small improvements in speed require huge increases in power. It's not a linear relationship. And never forget to concentrate on technique above all.
Thanks coggs! That was very motivating.

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