What is needed for sub 6??

jbell · Post by **jbell** » September 1st, 2006, 3:50 pm

Well, I am not in the near future trying to go sub 6, but maybe in senior year in college. That got me thinking: What is needed for sub 6? What I mean is, could someone my height (6ft) get sub 6 with LOTS and LOTS of work? We have a sophmore on our crew team who is 6'6" and he plans on breaking 6min his senior year at high school.

jjpisano · Post by **jjpisano** » September 1st, 2006, 4:25 pm

A 6:54 2k is to a 6:00 2k as 315w is to 480w.

That's a 52% increase in power needed. Just think of what you're doing right now and add more than half a person's power to your effort.

Good luck

jbell · Post by **jbell** » September 1st, 2006, 5:00 pm

I know that it would take me a while to break 6min, but I'm just saying: Can anyone who is about 6ft break 6min? Or do you have to be like 6ft 3in or taller? Thats a better way to state it.

FrankJ · Post by **FrankJ** » September 1st, 2006, 5:06 pm

jbell,

I'm not sure I know the answer and wonder if I could have ever achieved a time like that when I was your age. One thing I would recommend is to work on your technique. This sport rewards good technique so don't just work on strength and endurance have somebody who is knowledgeable watch you row and hone your technique.

Frank

jbell · Post by **jbell** » September 1st, 2006, 5:16 pm

FrankJ wrote:jbell,

I'm not sure I know the answer and wonder if I could have ever achieved a time like that when I was your age. One thing I would recommend is to work on your technique. This sport rewards good technique so don't just work on strength and endurance have somebody who is knowledgeable watch you row and hone your technique.

Frank

Thanks, but like I said in the first post, I dont plan on breaking 6 (if I ever can) until senior year college (hopefully my peak performance year). I was just wondering if people that arent as tall (6ft 3 or lower) can still get those times.

Neb154 · Post by **Neb154** » September 1st, 2006, 5:41 pm

One of my coaches has a son who rowed at Upenn during the mid '90s as a lightweight, until he got sick and couldn't continue keepng the weight off. He was about 5'11" and pulled 6:19. I think that if he had concentrated on putting on more weight and stregnth, he could've been under 6:10. I am sure there are people who are around 6' who have gotten around 6 minutes for 2k.

TomR · Post by **TomR** » September 1st, 2006, 7:13 pm

The world lightweight record on the erg is 6.02+. I assume the record holder is approx 6' or 6'1".

If you look at the members of the US rowing teams, one heavyweight is 6'0". A couple are 6'2', and all of the others are taller.

Many of the ltwts are 6' and 6'1", however.

This doesn't directly answer your question, but my guess is that going sub-6 for someone only 6' is unlikely. If you're 6' and want to compete at the highest level, be skinny.

Tom

FB1 · Post by **FB1** » September 1st, 2006, 9:27 pm

jbell

Yes it is possible that you could break 6 min at 6'. Not sure that it's been done often before though, we had this debate last year i believe.
The only way to find out is to have a go.

Anyway document all your training, plan your whole years training periods in advance (OW races, erg races, other sports etc). IMO lift weights 2-3 times a week compound exercises or body weight exercises only. Don't overtrain, and make sure that your technique is biomechanically efficient.

I'm 6'1" and rowed a 5:58.7, 2000m at 40y.o weighing around 195lb.

Good luck
FB

Bob S. · Post by **Bob S.** » September 1st, 2006, 11:31 pm

jbell wrote:Well, I am not in the near future trying to go sub 6, but maybe in senior year in college. That got me thinking: What is needed for sub 6? What I mean is, could someone my height (6ft) get sub 6 with LOTS and LOTS of work? We have a sophmore on our crew team who is 6'6" and he plans on breaking 6min his senior year at high school.

I was 6' when I graduated from high school, but gained another inch in the 3 or 4 years after that. I have no idea what my erg scores could have been because they didn't invent it until 30 or so years later.

Bob S.

trap_star · Post by **trap_star** » September 2nd, 2006, 6:19 pm

to break 6' on a 2k you must first be ableto break 19' on a 6k

Pete Marston · Post by **Pete Marston** » September 3rd, 2006, 4:38 pm

How old are you now? I'm just wondering whether you might still have another inch or 3 of height to gain before you stop growing?

A sub 6min 2k is certainly not impossible for someone at 6 feet tall, never let it enter your mind, despite what anyone may say, that something is impossible, as if you believe that it will limit your potential.

I'm 5'11, and got to a 6:11 after a couple of years of irregular erg training totalling around 5 sessions a week of 40mins duration, so not a perfect and focussed training schedule by any means. I'm training better now, and hope to be down under 6:10 within the next few months, and then I'll see how far on I can push from there.

jbell · Post by **jbell** » September 3rd, 2006, 5:08 pm

I'm 16 years old. I really dont have many tall people in my family (tallest is my uncle @ 6'1) so genetically I dont think I'll get taller. Maybe though. It'd be nice if I could get to 6'3 during college.

driver · Post by **driver** » September 5th, 2006, 7:31 am

jbell, Elia Luini holds the lightweight world record at 6:02 and although it says he's 6'1'' on the concept2 site, he's 6ft on the dot. Rasmus quist is around 5'7'' and he's pulled 6:16's and around that for a long time. I'm sure there's a sub-6 in there if they didnt have to try make lightweight. Height's only going to be a disadvantage, it won't make times like sub-6 impossible, just harder to reach.

LJWagner · Post by **LJWagner** » September 6th, 2006, 5:35 pm

6'6" and break WR ?

Train well.
Eat well and nutritionally sound.
Don't dwell on it (less stress).
Don't get hurt.
Don't get sick.
Get adequate rest. Train year round, but have breaks.
Have a truly knowledgeable coach(es) to guide all your training, or do wise research to find out what works best, not just what works for some.

Have one or more training partners. Don't be afraid of competition.
Be positive.
Don't get a fat head.

Saying he wants to indicates an early ego problem and little chance.

If he says he wants to see how good he can become, he has a chance.
Work hard, stay humble.

Make 5:40 the goal. With a longer view you're more likely to keep training smart and stress less.

Its a multi-year goal, and too big. Have year to year manageable goals along the way.

I don't know, ask Xeno.

jfo · Post by **jfo** » September 7th, 2006, 6:43 am

FB1:
"IMO lift weights 2-3 times a week compound exercises or body weight exercises only"

Why 'body weight exercises only' ???
Why not free weights?

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Question to FB1. Why 'body weight exercises only' ???