What Training Have You Done Today?

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
Dangerscouse
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » April 10th, 2025, 2:53 pm

Sakly wrote:
April 10th, 2025, 11:50 am
Promising session today. Felt good from the start, no issues. But of HR drift and pushed the last split, as it felt right.
That does look more like it
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Sakly » April 10th, 2025, 4:22 pm

alex9026 wrote:
April 10th, 2025, 1:55 pm
Nice one, good to hear. Have fun tomorrow, it's a tough little piece!
Hope it will be fun, but at least sustainable to get a score. :lol:
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

Sakly
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Sakly » April 10th, 2025, 4:34 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
April 10th, 2025, 2:53 pm
Sakly wrote:
April 10th, 2025, 11:50 am
Promising session today. Felt good from the start, no issues. But of HR drift and pushed the last split, as it felt right.
That does look more like it
And felt like usual too :)
Hope that holds up for tomorrow :lol:
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

Dangerscouse
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » April 11th, 2025, 3:06 am

1:22:25.5 21,097 1:57.2 217 1048 25 140
11:42.7 3,000 1:57.1 218 1049 25 128
11:40.4 6,000 1:56.7 220 1057 25 132
11:40.5 9,000 1:56.7 220 1056 25 139
11:39.5 12,000 1:56.5 221 1060 25 143
11:40.0 15,000 1:56.6 220 1058 25 147
11:48.2 18,000 1:58.0 213 1032 25 146
11:51.3 21,000 1:58.5 210 1022 25 147
0:22.9 21,097 1:58.0 213 1032 26 148

A bit too fast. A bit too long. A bit too tempting
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Sakly » April 11th, 2025, 11:29 am

Probably the 60min session wasn't the best idea yesterday, but ergenduranceseries went better than expected.
Satisfied given the current circumstances :)

Code: Select all

Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	❤️
25:32.4	7,332	1:44.5	307	1355	27	165
11:36.7	3,333	1:44.5	307	1355	27	175
r: 3:33	49						
0:58.6	333	1:27.9	514	2068	44	176
r: 3:33	29						
11:58.5	3,333	1:47.7	280	1261	26	157
r: 3:33	47						
0:58.6	333	1:27.9	514	2068	47	137
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

jcross485
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by jcross485 » April 11th, 2025, 12:16 pm

Another erg session today to compliment what I have coming up in a few weeks. The idea was to do a lot of work somewhere around 10k - 60:00 power but on shorter rest as it mimics the effort / output I have coming up.

2.5k warm up, 20 x 500m (:30 rest), 2.5k cool down. HR was in a good place during warm up and cool down; it did drift quite a bit throughout the session as the intensity crept up but its also our hottest day of the year here so sweat a bit more than I have been recently.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
59:05.1 15,000 1:58.1 212 1029 22 149

5:09.1 1,250 2:03.6 185 937 19 133
5:09.1 1,250 2:03.6 185 937 19 137
r: 1:00 47
1:56.5 500 1:56.5 221 1061 24 145
r: 0:30 33
1:56.5 500 1:56.5 221 1061 24 147
r: 0:30 41
1:56.3 500 1:56.3 222 1065 24 148
r: 0:30 30
1:56.3 500 1:56.3 222 1065 24 150
r: 0:30 32
1:56.2 500 1:56.2 223 1067 24 151
r: 0:30 29
1:56.2 500 1:56.2 223 1067 24 151
r: 0:30 37
1:56.1 500 1:56.1 224 1069 24 154
r: 0:30 33
1:56.0 500 1:56.0 224 1071 24 152
r: 0:30 37
1:56.0 500 1:56.0 224 1071 24 154
r: 0:30 36
1:55.8 500 1:55.8 225 1075 24 155
r: 0:30 36
1:55.6 500 1:55.6 227 1079 24 155
r: 0:30 36
1:55.6 500 1:55.6 227 1079 24 155
r: 0:30 38
1:55.5 500 1:55.5 227 1081 24 156
r: 0:30 42
1:55.4 500 1:55.4 228 1083 24 158
r: 0:30 38
1:55.2 500 1:55.2 229 1087 24 159
r: 0:30 34
1:55.0 500 1:55.0 230 1092 25 158
r: 0:30 36
1:55.0 500 1:55.0 230 1092 25 158
r: 0:30 35
1:54.7 500 1:54.7 232 1098 24 158
r: 0:30 29
1:54.6 500 1:54.6 233 1100 24 161
r: 0:30 40
1:51.2 500 1:51.2 255 1176 24 162
r: 1:00 42
5:08.6 1,250 2:03.4 186 940 19 143
5:08.6 1,250 2:03.4 186 940 19 141
r761
M, '85; 5'10" (1.78m), 185lbs (84kg)

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by alex9026 » April 11th, 2025, 12:33 pm

Sakly wrote:
April 11th, 2025, 11:29 am
Probably the 60min session wasn't the best idea yesterday, but ergenduranceseries went better than expected.
Satisfied given the current circumstances :)

Code: Select all

Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	❤️
25:32.4	7,332	1:44.5	307	1355	27	165
11:36.7	3,333	1:44.5	307	1355	27	175
r: 3:33	49						
0:58.6	333	1:27.9	514	2068	44	176
r: 3:33	29						
11:58.5	3,333	1:47.7	280	1261	26	157
r: 3:33	47						
0:58.6	333	1:27.9	514	2068	47	137
Good effort. You're one place ahead of me on this piece because your sprint efforts were quicker. But I don't care for sprinting so you're welcome to it :lol: must be a good confidence boost for you?
34 6'2 92kg
1min 368m 500m 1:24.4 2k 6:24 5k 17:27

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Sakly » April 11th, 2025, 1:52 pm

alex9026 wrote:
April 11th, 2025, 12:33 pm
Sakly wrote:
April 11th, 2025, 11:29 am
Probably the 60min session wasn't the best idea yesterday, but ergenduranceseries went better than expected.
Satisfied given the current circumstances :)

Code: Select all

Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	❤️
25:32.4	7,332	1:44.5	307	1355	27	165
11:36.7	3,333	1:44.5	307	1355	27	175
r: 3:33	49						
0:58.6	333	1:27.9	514	2068	44	176
r: 3:33	29						
11:58.5	3,333	1:47.7	280	1261	26	157
r: 3:33	47						
0:58.6	333	1:27.9	514	2068	47	137
Good effort. You're one place ahead of me on this piece because your sprint efforts were quicker. But I don't care for sprinting so you're welcome to it :lol: must be a good confidence boost for you?
Haha, could be? :mrgreen:
I knew I would lack on the longer distances based on my recent training, so I thought to get back some "points" using my current strength, as this worked well in training :)
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

KeithT
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by KeithT » April 11th, 2025, 2:55 pm

Sub 34:00 10K!!!!!!!!!.........................................on a water rower :D

So, I have a fun story for you. I had to travel for work this week and the hotel I stayed in had a fitness center. I did dumbbells and machines a couple days but noticed they did have a rower but it was a water rower. Typically the hotels don't even have a rower so I decided to try it. First, the seat was broke and every time you reached the layback you felt like you were going to fall off the back. Despite this, I saw I was pulling 1:30s without going hard. I messed with the "resistance" and found that when making it harder and putting more power into stroke it somehow showed slower times. So, went back to mid-range and did a 10K at sub 34:00 (33:20) just under 1:40 pace and I wasn't going hard (felt like maybe a 2:00 pace). I have heard that there was a pretty big difference between a water rower and C2 but I thought 10-15 seconds per 500 - not 20+. I didn't like how it felt either.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » April 12th, 2025, 8:26 am

49:01.1 12,000 2:02.5 190 954 19 122
16:20.2 4,000 2:02.5 190 954 20 119
16:20.0 4,000 2:02.5 190 955 19 125
16:20.9 4,000 2:02.6 190 953 19 123
r115

I felt a bit too lethargic to do too much, so I broke it into 4k intervals with 90 seconds rest and stopped when I couldn't get any more enthusiasm to keep going.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » April 12th, 2025, 8:29 am

KeithT wrote:
April 11th, 2025, 2:55 pm
Sub 34:00 10K!!!!!!!!!.........................................on a water rower :D

So, I have a fun story for you. I had to travel for work this week and the hotel I stayed in had a fitness center. I did dumbbells and machines a couple days but noticed they did have a rower but it was a water rower. Typically the hotels don't even have a rower so I decided to try it. First, the seat was broke and every time you reached the layback you felt like you were going to fall off the back. Despite this, I saw I was pulling 1:30s without going hard. I messed with the "resistance" and found that when making it harder and putting more power into stroke it somehow showed slower times. So, went back to mid-range and did a 10K at sub 34:00 (33:20) just under 1:40 pace and I wasn't going hard (felt like maybe a 2:00 pace). I have heard that there was a pretty big difference between a water rower and C2 but I thought 10-15 seconds per 500 - not 20+. I didn't like how it felt either.
Haha, I think I've had a short go on a water rower years ago, and I also didn't like the feeling. The resistance isn't constant and the only good thing about it is that it looks good.

I am shocked with how much difference there is, as I assumed that they'd put at least some effort into trying to make it accurate.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

Instagram: stuwenman

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by alex9026 » April 12th, 2025, 1:21 pm

KeithT wrote:
April 11th, 2025, 2:55 pm
Sub 34:00 10K!!!!!!!!!.........................................on a water rower :D
As impressive as my 6:10 2k on one :lol:
34 6'2 92kg
1min 368m 500m 1:24.4 2k 6:24 5k 17:27

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by alex9026 » April 12th, 2025, 1:44 pm

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
5:56.5 2,000 1:29.1 494 2001 38
0:44.9 250 1:29.8 483 1963 39
0:44.9 250 1:29.8 483 1963 36
0:44.9 250 1:29.8 483 1963 37
0:44.9 250 1:29.8 483 1963 36
0:44.5 250 1:29.0 496 2008 38
0:44.6 250 1:29.2 493 1997 38
0:44.6 250 1:29.2 493 1997 39
0:43.2 250 1:26.4 543 2167 44

8x250m/1:10 Short on time today. I'm well off the boil with this sort of session, I've gone 10x250/1:00 at sub 1:30 across the board.
34 6'2 92kg
1min 368m 500m 1:24.4 2k 6:24 5k 17:27

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » April 13th, 2025, 2:15 am

alex9026 wrote:
April 12th, 2025, 1:44 pm
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
5:56.5 2,000 1:29.1 494 2001 38
0:44.9 250 1:29.8 483 1963 39
0:44.9 250 1:29.8 483 1963 36
0:44.9 250 1:29.8 483 1963 37
0:44.9 250 1:29.8 483 1963 36
0:44.5 250 1:29.0 496 2008 38
0:44.6 250 1:29.2 493 1997 38
0:44.6 250 1:29.2 493 1997 39
0:43.2 250 1:26.4 543 2167 44

8x250m/1:10 Short on time today. I'm well off the boil with this sort of session, I've gone 10x250/1:00 at sub 1:30 across the board.
You're too hard on yourself, as I don't see much difference at all between the two sessions, especially with that last interval. 10 seconds isn't enough of a difference to make it notably more manageable.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » April 13th, 2025, 3:56 am

1k repeats undefined rests. This was semi-intended to be a warm-up for the CTC, but it didn't feel quite right, and I was trying to force it.

I'm hoping that it will have a decent training effect rather than sapping my recovery.

Intervals
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
37:07.2 10,000 1:51.3 253 1172 25 143
3:54.8 1,000 1:57.4 216 1044 25 122
r: 0:26 14
3:50.5 1,000 1:55.2 229 1086 26 132
r: 0:39 18
3:48.7 1,000 1:54.3 234 1105 25 132
r: 0:44 19
3:46.9 1,000 1:53.4 240 1124 25 139
r: 0:51 14
3:39.6 1,000 1:49.8 264 1209 26 145
r: 1:08 22
3:34.2 1,000 1:47.1 285 1280 27 149
r: 1:24 18
3:33.0 1,000 1:46.5 290 1297 27 155
r: 1:44 19
3:36.7 1,000 1:48.3 275 1246 26 156
r: 1:41 21
3:36.7 1,000 1:48.3 275 1246 26 156
r: 1:46 23
3:46.1 1,000 1:53.0 242 1133 25 149
r: 1:18 16
r184
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

Instagram: stuwenman

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