General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
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SubjectNr23-TheSwede
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by SubjectNr23-TheSwede » June 24th, 2023, 5:09 am
Hey! So this is my first post here and I hope I can get some help and input. I have been an owner of a c2 for about 1y now, where I have been rowing on and off during this time but not enough consecutive to say I'm more than a noob still. But as I got the rowing for weight loss I have started being more serious the last two months (lost 9.2kg) I have been trying find better programs and stumbled upon the BPP. I am 29yo, 140kg (308lbs), 181cm (5'11).
To lose weight I have been rowing for about 20mins the days between my gym days except for one where I have a rest day, the week looking like this.
Mon: Row 20min
Tue: Gym 1.5h
Wed: Row 20min
Thu: Gym 1.5h
Fri: Row 20min
Sat: Restday
Sun: Gym 1.5h
So what I am wondering would it be possible to do the BPP Mon-Fri putting the optional workouts on my gym days or would this possibly lead to overtraining? I also have heard different opinions on putting cardio training on the same day as strength training what are your experience with this? Another question but this is more for the future as I need to lose weight first, is rowing compatible with calisthenics workouts? Is anyone here doing that?
Thank you in advance!

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Sakly
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by Sakly » June 24th, 2023, 7:19 am
SubjectNr23-TheSwede wrote: βJune 24th, 2023, 5:09 am
So what I am wondering would it be possible to do the BPP Mon-Fri putting the optional workouts on my gym days or would this possibly lead to overtraining? I also have heard different opinions on putting cardio training on the same day as strength training what are your experience with this? Another question but this is more for the future as I need to lose weight first, is rowing compatible with calisthenics workouts? Is anyone here doing that?
1. Put the harder sessions on top of your gym sessions, easy/long sessions between gym days.
2. Calisthenics/bodyweight training compatible with erging? Yes, definitely

Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
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mitchel674
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by mitchel674 » June 24th, 2023, 8:23 am
The better question is "Are you ready for the BPP?".
What do your 20minute rows look like? Are you getting on the rower and just rowing lightly for 20 minutes? What is your distance at 20 minutes? Have you tried any interval rows at higher intensity?
I enjoy the BPP, but suggest folks be very comfortable rowing at least 5000m in one sitting before they consider starting. The weekly distance increases rapidly and can lead to frustration and disappointment if you are not ready.
You certainly can incorporate the BPP into your gym schedule. There are only 3 mandatory rows each week. Just do these on your off days from the gym.
If you do start the BPP, please join us in the BPP thread. It's great for encouragement and accountability.
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SubjectNr23-TheSwede
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by SubjectNr23-TheSwede » June 24th, 2023, 8:46 am
Sakly wrote: βJune 24th, 2023, 7:19 am
SubjectNr23-TheSwede wrote: βJune 24th, 2023, 5:09 am
So what I am wondering would it be possible to do the BPP Mon-Fri putting the optional workouts on my gym days or would this possibly lead to overtraining? I also have heard different opinions on putting cardio training on the same day as strength training what are your experience with this? Another question but this is more for the future as I need to lose weight first, is rowing compatible with calisthenics workouts? Is anyone here doing that?
1. Put the harder sessions on top of your gym sessions, easy/long sessions between gym days.
2. Calisthenics/bodyweight training compatible with erging? Yes, definitely
Thank you for the respons, I can't wait to combine them

should I do them before or after strength training?
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by SubjectNr23-TheSwede » June 24th, 2023, 8:50 am
mitchel674 wrote: βJune 24th, 2023, 8:23 am
The better question is "Are you ready for the BPP?".
What do your 20minute rows look like? Are you getting on the rower and just rowing lightly for 20 minutes? What is your distance at 20 minutes? Have you tried any interval rows at higher intensity?
I enjoy the BPP, but suggest folks be very comfortable rowing at least 5000m in one sitting before they consider starting. The weekly distance increases rapidly and can lead to frustration and disappointment if you are not ready.
You certainly can incorporate the BPP into your gym schedule. There are only 3 mandatory rows each week. Just do these on your off days from the gym.
If you do start the BPP, please join us in the BPP thread. It's great for encouragement and accountability.
I would definitely say so, I want to develop my fitness as I am losing weight. I've only rowed 20min because it is what's needed to hit my caloric deficit each week. I have rowed 10k and 60' before. My 30' right now is around 7k and my 10k sits around 50'
Doing 10k spm are between 18-20 and 30' and less usually around 22-24 spm. Must say that I have no idea how anyone can hold 30+spm for longer than 500m right now tho but I do blame my fitness lvl here. I'm as stated 140kg.
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by Sakly » June 24th, 2023, 9:40 am
SubjectNr23-TheSwede wrote: βJune 24th, 2023, 8:46 am
Sakly wrote: βJune 24th, 2023, 7:19 am
SubjectNr23-TheSwede wrote: βJune 24th, 2023, 5:09 am
So what I am wondering would it be possible to do the BPP Mon-Fri putting the optional workouts on my gym days or would this possibly lead to overtraining? I also have heard different opinions on putting cardio training on the same day as strength training what are your experience with this? Another question but this is more for the future as I need to lose weight first, is rowing compatible with calisthenics workouts? Is anyone here doing that?
1. Put the harder sessions on top of your gym sessions, easy/long sessions between gym days.
2. Calisthenics/bodyweight training compatible with erging? Yes, definitely
Thank you for the respons, I can't wait to combine them

should I do them before or after strength training?
I would do them after your training. The harder sessions typically are intervals or harder long pieces. I would slow the target pace by 2-3s (or whatever feels right depending on the intensity of the training) and do them afterwards. I did exactly this today with a 8x500m
7k in 30min with a rate of ~23 shows a good fitness, regardless of your 140kg

Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:47:07.0
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by Dangerscouse » June 24th, 2023, 11:29 am
SubjectNr23-TheSwede wrote: βJune 24th, 2023, 8:50 am
I would definitely say so, I want to develop my fitness as I am losing weight. I've only rowed 20min because it is what's needed to hit my caloric deficit each week. I have rowed 10k and 60' before. My 30' right now is around 7k and my 10k sits around 50'
Doing 10k spm are between 18-20 and 30' and less usually around 22-24 spm. Must say that I have no idea how anyone can hold 30+spm for longer than 500m right now tho but I do blame my fitness lvl here. I'm as stated 140kg.
Yeah, you're ready for the BPP. R30+
should get easier as you lose weight/ get more experienced, but some people always struggle with it despite being strong rowers. I'm comfortable with r30, but r31/32 gets a tougher and above that's guess work for when I'll really struggle.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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