Rowerup - Forward body angle

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HornetMaX
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Re: Rowerup - Forward body angle

Post by HornetMaX » February 10th, 2023, 11:35 am

Thanks Tsonr. I think I've found something.

Sitting on the rower, feet strapped in, legs fully extended: if I lean forward with my torse (without bending it) at some point I feel stuff pulling, essentially the back of the knees and right above & below it (i.e. lower hamstring, back of the knee, upper calf). Guess that's kind of normal.

Now on thing I think may explain my difficulty to lean forward during recovery&catch: I have hyperextended knees. Nothing spectacular, but it's visible.
Actually it's more visible on my left leg than on my right one (right knee is a bit of a mess, anterior cruciate ligament almost completely gone + meniscus lesion, all this like 30yrs ago). Generally speaking, none of this affects my rowing, except what I describe here below.

I noticed that when I row, if I try to fully extend the legs at the end of the drive (as is good practice, I'm told) I can go into hyperextension (especially left leg). When this happens, two things happen:
  • leaning "a lot" forward is a bit harder
  • once leant forward, bending the legs during the start of the recovery is harder: the movement is not really smooth, it's like if the legs "pops up" (from hyperextended to flat to slightly bent). It's nothing scary, there's no snap or something, but I can feel it. It's like a bent flexible beam that snaps from bent one way to bent the opposite way.
I think that due to that I tend to not lean forward enough. Today I tried to focus on not hyperextending the legs at drive end and I kind of gained 10deg in forward leaning at catch (when I managed to execute properly). I'd need 5deg more, but it's a good start :)

Don't know if there's anything that I can do to avoid hyperextending.
1973, 173cm (5'8"), LW, started rowing Sep 2021 (after 10 years of being a couch potato), c2 log
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Re: Rowerup - Forward body angle

Post by jseymour » February 16th, 2023, 6:41 pm

Tsnor wrote:
February 6th, 2023, 12:48 pm
Forward lean comes from the hips, not back. Bending over at the lower back is unsafe - don't do it. Rock your hips.

When you lean forward you should feel your butt rock on the seat. If you don't then you're bending your lower back into a weak position, which is *not* the goal of forward lean - lower back bend only creates back problems. If you don't feel the rocking ...
I'm glad I read this thread.

Doing my session today, I concentrated on keeping my back straight and feeling the rocking in my seat. Like the OP: Feels unnatural. I have to concentrate on it. But it did seem that, when I got everything right, the rows were much more powerful, more easily.

My back is tired, now Image

I've been doing a lot of stuff in bad form my entire life. Lately I switched from a gym, with machines, to working out at home, with free weights. I'm having to learn the same thing there: Keep my back straight.

I'm going to have to video myself.

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