What Training Have You Done Today?

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Dangerscouse
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » November 24th, 2021, 5:47 am

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Not so much a failed 10k, as a good 7k.

I knew from circa 700m in that it wasn't a good day, but I resolved to keep going and see what happens. I'm really patchy with my performances, and desire, atm so it wasn't unexpected. I'm feeling more tired and lethargic than normal despite additional rest days.

I finished off with a 30 min rate ladder just to get in some more metres.
48 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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MartinSH4321
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by MartinSH4321 » November 24th, 2021, 5:55 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
November 24th, 2021, 5:47 am
Image

Not so much a failed 10k, as a good 7k.

I knew from circa 700m in that it wasn't a good day, but I resolved to keep going and see what happens. I'm really patchy with my performances, and desire, atm so it wasn't unexpected. I'm feeling more tired and lethargic than normal despite additional rest days.

I finished off with a 30 min rate ladder just to get in some more metres.
Damn... maybe some kind of dejection/mild depression due to weather (cold, dark, shorter days)? Hope you're feeling better soon!
1983 Austria 1.86 103Kg
LP: 1:04.6 100m: 13.6 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42
Insta-Training log/vids: @martin.stoeger

Ireland number 24
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Ireland number 24 » November 24th, 2021, 6:00 am

BPP week 24 - 5 x 1500 with 3 mins rest

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
5:29.3 1,500m 1:49.7 265 1210 24
5:29.8 1,500m 1:49.9 263 1206 23
5:29.4 1,500m 1:49.8 264 1209 23
5:29.0 1,500m 1:49.6 265 1213 23
5:23.1 1,500m 1:47.7 280 1264 23

My monitor has a malfunction and counted the last rep twice.

The summary shows 9k in total and in throws the average pace out too. Has anyone else had this problem
27:20.5 9,000m 1:31.1 462 1891 23
500m - 1.27, 2k - 6.47, 10k 37.50, HM - 1:25.44
M36-110kg 182cm

winniewinser
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by winniewinser » November 24th, 2021, 7:10 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
November 24th, 2021, 5:47 am
Image

Not so much a failed 10k, as a good 7k.

I knew from circa 700m in that it wasn't a good day, but I resolved to keep going and see what happens. I'm really patchy with my performances, and desire, atm so it wasn't unexpected. I'm feeling more tired and lethargic than normal despite additional rest days.

I finished off with a 30 min rate ladder just to get in some more metres.
Keep you chin up Stu....better times will come again.......or buy a Skierg and suffer like me B) :lol:
6'2" 49yo, 100m 17.0, 1' 346m, 500m 1:30.0, 1km 3:14.3, 4min 1220m, 2km 6:50.2, 5km 17:59.8, 6km 21:46.7, 30' 8082m, 10km 37:31.3, 60' 15,669m, HM 1:22:14.7, FM 3:08:12.8

Ski 1' 285m, 500m 1:54.2, 2km 8:15.1, 5km 21:13.8, 30' 6871m

dabatey
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by dabatey » November 24th, 2021, 7:36 am

C2 Training Guide V2, Original Plan (6day)[3rd 3 week loop of prep phase]

Week 8..Day 3.. 1 x 60 min UT2 @20spm (Pace 2.20/500). Completed at 2.19.4 @20spm.

Found todays UT2 session quite hard. The difficulty was exhausted legs trying to keep the 20spm rate. Heartrate was quite high and up into my UT1 zone for a lot of the workout(and yesterdays UT1 drifted well into AT zone). I think I have been a tad ambitious in upping my paces after how I felt in a workout last week where due to my run I effectively had 2 days off prior. I'm going to reset my paces for all workouts down by 1s/500 for the rest of the loop.
Age 49....Weight 62 Kg....
Started rowing 27 Aug 21
2K 8.33 (19 Sep 21)...8.02.3(23 Oct 21)...7.57.8(13 Nov 21)...7.55.4(7 Dec 21)
5K 22.14 (2 Oct 21)

KeithT
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by KeithT » November 24th, 2021, 10:00 am

mjk wrote:
November 24th, 2021, 4:15 am
KeithT wrote:
November 23rd, 2021, 3:18 pm
CTC today not a PB (2m short) but better than expected:

Time/Mtr/Pace/SPM
1:00/374/1:20.2/50

My strength is fine but my fitness isn't quite there - for something like this I could power thru but I would have completely fell apart if longer.
Wow! Thats very strong, aggressive rate on this piece too
Yeah the SPM was higher than my PB for the 1'. It sort of felt too quick and a bit out of control but you cant really adjust in mid sprint.
53 yo, 6'3" 200#
PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1265m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8366m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

KeithT
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by KeithT » November 24th, 2021, 10:10 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
November 24th, 2021, 5:47 am
Image

Not so much a failed 10k, as a good 7k.

I knew from circa 700m in that it wasn't a good day, but I resolved to keep going and see what happens. I'm really patchy with my performances, and desire, atm so it wasn't unexpected. I'm feeling more tired and lethargic than normal despite additional rest days.

I finished off with a 30 min rate ladder just to get in some more metres.
I like the good 7K idea. You seem to be feeling like me, I just don't have "it" right now, I look at some of the rows I did last year and know I couldn't come close to them at the moment and I feel beat-up and tired. However, we have felt like this before and then usually come out of it and do some PBs.
53 yo, 6'3" 200#
PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1265m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8366m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

Dangerscouse
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » November 24th, 2021, 12:01 pm

MartinSH4321 wrote:
November 24th, 2021, 5:55 am
Damn... maybe some kind of dejection/mild depression due to weather (cold, dark, shorter days)? Hope you're feeling better soon!
I've been notably more stressed than usual recently, so it's never quick to leave, so I suspect it's something to do with that. I'm having quite a few 'down days' recently too, which is unusual for me, and it's not depression, so I'm probably just going through a bit of a 'moment'. Thanks Martin.
KeithT wrote:
November 24th, 2021, 10:10 am
I like the good 7K idea. You seem to be feeling like me, I just don't have "it" right now, I look at some of the rows I did last year and know I couldn't come close to them at the moment and I feel beat-up and tired. However, we have felt like this before and then usually come out of it and do some PBs.
:D it's all about perspective! It feels really patchy atm, and I just don't know what I'm going to feel like day to day. My problem can be that I forget about patches like this from previous years, and then I can very slightly start to catastrophise the issues. Thankfully I can get a grip of it fairly easily, but I'm struggling to zone out and feel relaxed when I'm rowing, which is a sure sign of too much cortisol.

I'm sure you're right mate, and soon enough we'll both be back on track.
48 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

Instagram: stuwenman

nick rockliff
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by nick rockliff » November 24th, 2021, 1:27 pm

Same again

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
30:00.0 7,570m 1:58.8 208 1016 22 140
6:00.0 1,514m 1:58.8 208 1016 22 127
12:00.0 1,514m 1:58.8 208 1016 22 137
18:00.0 1,514m 1:58.8 208 1016 22 142
24:00.0 1,514m 1:58.8 208 1016 22 147
30:00.0 1,516m 1:58.7 209 1019 22 150
64 6' 4" 103kg
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6

Spinal
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Spinal » November 24th, 2021, 2:20 pm

Speed Pyramid

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M HR
12:05.2 3,449m 1:45.1 301 1336 33 183
0:50.0 250m 1:40.0 350 1504 32 172
r: 1:30 103m
1:42.6 500m 1:42.6 324 1415 32 179
r: 3:00 92m
2:36.4 750m 1:44.2 309 1362 33 184
r: 4:30 66m
3:32.1 1,000m 1:46.0 293 1309 33 186
r: 6:00 62m
2:37.3 750m 1:44.8 303 1344 35 188
r: 4:30 61m
0:46.3 199m 1:56.3 222 1065 37 171 :oops:

Had nothing left in the tank, failed workout but enjoyable nonetheless.
March 1981, 170cm, 72kg

bean
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by bean » November 24th, 2021, 5:31 pm

BPP 5.3 7000m @ 2:19

32:22.5 17 147 7000 2:18.7
04:37.5 20 130 1000 2:18.7
04:37.5 18 139 2000 2:18.7
04:37.4 17 146 3000 2:18.7
04:37.4 17 153 4000 2:18.7
04:37.4 17 152 5000 2:18.7
04:37.7 17 154 6000 2:18.8
04:37.6 17 156 7000 2:18.8
29/M/5'10"

Tsnor
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Tsnor » November 24th, 2021, 9:15 pm

Ireland number 24 wrote:
November 24th, 2021, 6:00 am
BPP week 24 - 5 x 1500 with 3 mins rest

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
5:29.3 1,500m 1:49.7 265 1210 24
5:29.8 1,500m 1:49.9 263 1206 23
5:29.4 1,500m 1:49.8 264 1209 23
5:29.0 1,500m 1:49.6 265 1213 23
5:23.1 1,500m 1:47.7 280 1264 23

My monitor has a malfunction and counted the last rep twice.

The summary shows 9k in total and in throws the average pace out too. Has anyone else had this problem
27:20.5 9,000m 1:31.1 462 1891 23
If this report is from ergdata or from the C2 log then also check the PM5. There are a number of bugs reported in the forum where the data seen at Ergdata and later is not the same (and wrong) compared to the PM5. In any case, drop a line to C2 support saying what you did, what you saw and why its bad. It might help them debug whatever they've got. info@concept2.com

aussie nick
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by aussie nick » November 25th, 2021, 12:35 am

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M HR
50:00.4 12,526m 1:59.7 204 1001 23 155

5:00.0 1,244m 2:00.5 200 987 23 131
5:00.0 1,239m 2:01.0 197 978 23 141
5:00.0 1,251m 1:59.9 203 998 23 149
5:00.0 1,249m 2:00.0 202 995 24 153
5:00.0 1,249m 2:00.0 202 995 23 152
5:00.0 1,251m 1:59.9 203 998 23 159
5:00.0 1,260m 1:59.0 207 1013 24 161
5:00.0 1,260m 1:59.0 207 1013 24 165
5:00.0 1,258m 1:59.2 206 1010 24 162
5:00.0 1,264m 1:58.6 209 1020 25 167

rowed at lunchtime in 98% humidity. Fortunately it's only 24 degrees but all my clothes including socks were totally drenched by the end.

the long range weather forecast for Sydney this Summer is La Nina conditions = wet & cloudy. Not particularly excited for the next 4 months of sweating buckets!
M/50/183/88kg
took up rowing during pandemic
1k 3.09.8
2k 6.42.6
5k 18.15.8

dabatey
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by dabatey » November 25th, 2021, 6:23 am

C2 Training Guide V2, Original Plan (6day)[3rd 3 week loop of prep phase]

Week 8..Day 4.. 3 x 15 min UT1 @23spm (Pace 2.15/500). Completed at 2.14.3 @23spm.

Well I have worked out why my heartrate has been going so high during the last couple of days workouts. It's because of a little cold snap here in the UK. Trouble is my C2 is in my (heated) living room and my radiators have been blasting out during my workout. It's not so much the ambient temperature of the room (which doesn't get super warm), more the radiated heat whilst the heating system gets the room up to temperature. First two intervals I was absolutely dying at the end. Turned the radiators off and the third interval ended with a heartrate 5 bpm lower than the first 2 intervals.

I'm not going to get away with turning radiators off every time as my other half hates the cold, so I'm going to rig a fan which will hopefully do the same job.
Age 49....Weight 62 Kg....
Started rowing 27 Aug 21
2K 8.33 (19 Sep 21)...8.02.3(23 Oct 21)...7.57.8(13 Nov 21)...7.55.4(7 Dec 21)
5K 22.14 (2 Oct 21)

winniewinser
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by winniewinser » November 25th, 2021, 9:45 am

aussie nick wrote:
November 25th, 2021, 12:35 am
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M HR
50:00.4 12,526m 1:59.7 204 1001 23 155

5:00.0 1,244m 2:00.5 200 987 23 131
5:00.0 1,239m 2:01.0 197 978 23 141
5:00.0 1,251m 1:59.9 203 998 23 149
5:00.0 1,249m 2:00.0 202 995 24 153
5:00.0 1,249m 2:00.0 202 995 23 152
5:00.0 1,251m 1:59.9 203 998 23 159
5:00.0 1,260m 1:59.0 207 1013 24 161
5:00.0 1,260m 1:59.0 207 1013 24 165
5:00.0 1,258m 1:59.2 206 1010 24 162
5:00.0 1,264m 1:58.6 209 1020 25 167

rowed at lunchtime in 98% humidity. Fortunately it's only 24 degrees but all my clothes including socks were totally drenched by the end.

the long range weather forecast for Sydney this Summer is La Nina conditions = wet & cloudy. Not particularly excited for the next 4 months of sweating buckets!
Sounds steamy.....walked into my gym room at home and it was 12c :D ....perfect
6'2" 49yo, 100m 17.0, 1' 346m, 500m 1:30.0, 1km 3:14.3, 4min 1220m, 2km 6:50.2, 5km 17:59.8, 6km 21:46.7, 30' 8082m, 10km 37:31.3, 60' 15,669m, HM 1:22:14.7, FM 3:08:12.8

Ski 1' 285m, 500m 1:54.2, 2km 8:15.1, 5km 21:13.8, 30' 6871m

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