Hello all - very tall newbie here

[Big J]

The 1:15 goal may be unrealistic. The rowing table on Sugden Barbell has a couple of guys at or just beyond that level, but being a forum for strength athletes, I guess there will always be a bias towards faster times for shorter distances.

Have these been verified results on a Concept 2? The WR is 1:10.5, and it's 1:13.7 for age 40-49 so I'm not saying it's impossible, but if they aren't focusing on rowing I'd say that it probably doesn't pass the 'smell test'.

For context, out of 4104 people, of all age groups, who ranked a 500m last rowing season, there were only six men who went sub 1:15

I am not sure. Most of the top Strongman athletes from the UK (and some from abroad) are members, and I assume the member 'Loz' who has 1:15.6 recorded is Lawrence Shalaei. There must be huge crossover between competitive strongman and 500m rowing as the time period is exactly the same. I remember Brian shaw doing a 12.8 second 100m without training for it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVl0Zt-kZys

[JMac]

The 1:15 goal may be unrealistic. The rowing table on Sugden Barbell has a couple of guys at or just beyond that level, but being a forum for strength athletes, I guess there will always be a bias towards faster times for shorter distances.

Have these been verified results on a Concept 2? The WR is 1:10.5, and it's 1:13.7 for age 40-49 so I'm not saying it's impossible, but if they aren't focusing on rowing I'd say that it probably doesn't pass the 'smell test'.

For context, out of 4104 people, of all age groups, who ranked a 500m last rowing season, there were only six men who went sub 1:15

I am not sure. Most of the top Strongman athletes from the UK (and some from abroad) are members, and I assume the member 'Loz' who has 1:15.6 recorded is Lawrence Shalaei. There must be huge crossover between competitive strongman and 500m rowing as the time period is exactly the same. I remember Brian shaw doing a 12.8 second 100m without training for it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVl0Zt-kZys

You'll need at least semi-decent cardio to minimise the impact of complete body shutdown that occurs during an all out 500m.

[Dino]

For interest I would check out Phil Clapp and Jason Marshall and the type of training they do.
Phil Clapp is 6'9" (I think).. ex. GB rower and now plies his trade on Maxi yachts; he focuses on the sprint distances only - rower and skierg (joint WR holder on the 500m last time I checked and other records too).
Jason Marshall is ex-rugby player. Does everything well from 500m up to Marathon. Immensely strong and fit is one of the few people to go sub 6:00 on the 2k for both rower and skierg, also 2:45 on the 1k. Has his own youtube channel where you can watch him blast these out.

[hjs]

The 1:15 goal may be unrealistic. The rowing table on Sugden Barbell has a couple of guys at or just beyond that level, but being a forum for strength athletes, I guess there will always be a bias towards faster times for shorter distances.

Have these been verified results on a Concept 2? The WR is 1:10.5, and it's 1:13.7 for age 40-49 so I'm not saying it's impossible, but if they aren't focusing on rowing I'd say that it probably doesn't pass the 'smell test'.

For context, out of 4104 people, of all age groups, who ranked a 500m last rowing season, there were only six men who went sub 1:15

I am not sure. Most of the top Strongman athletes from the UK (and some from abroad) are members, and I assume the member 'Loz' who has 1:15.6 recorded is Lawrence Shalaei. There must be huge crossover between competitive strongman and 500m rowing as the time period is exactly the same. I remember Brian shaw doing a 12.8 second 100m without training for it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVl0Zt-kZys

Strongman are to big, they don’t fit the erg. So yes they pull fast splits, but could be faster if they where smaller and could hit the right angles. Brian is a good example, he muscles through, but can hardly use his legs. Him being 200kg.

[Dangerscouse]

I am not sure. Most of the top Strongman athletes from the UK (and some from abroad) are members, and I assume the member 'Loz' who has 1:15.6 recorded is Lawrence Shalaei. There must be huge crossover between competitive strongman and 500m rowing as the time period is exactly the same. I remember Brian shaw doing a 12.8 second 100m without training for it

Fair enough mate. Yeah, I saw Brian's 100m session. I'd like to see how he does on 500m though, although I know he also has impressive fitness too for a man of that size.

Anyway going back to your original question, I'd agree that 1:15 will be very tough, but circa 1:20 is probably possible, but it's very hard to assess potential until you've got a lot of training done and you can map your progress and when it starts to plateau. On face value, you seem very suited to some very fast results

[JMac]

Check out the video below, 5:55 in. He got 1:14

https://youtu.be/35Gf5Gmm9Mw

He looks like he's on a kids toy

[hjs]

Check out the video below, 5:55 in. He got 1:14

https://youtu.be/35Gf5Gmm9Mw

He looks like he's on a kids toy

Really making the best of it . Nice long arm action. He can’t get around spreading his legs.
But this is a good example of showing how fast 1.15 is. He really went for it, and got 1.14.x

Below A 113.7 from Bernard Phaller. Complete different kind of physic. 187 93kg ish. So half of Brian

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5g3D9uF11a8

[Big J]

Check out the video below, 5:55 in. He got 1:14

https://youtu.be/35Gf5Gmm9Mw

He looks like he's on a kids toy

He needs a different class of machine! I am surprised it didn't snap in two.

Brian is obviously phenomenally strong and it's his strength and acceleration of pull that is delivering the extremely fast times. His overall size hinders him a bit though I guess, with him having to compromise his technique a bit (splitting his legs) just to complete the reps.

I reckon for strongmen that the 500m split is a very effective training tool for conditioning training for events. I did 6 strongman comps in 2007 and you do spend a fair time in complete oxygen deficit and I reckon rowing would have really helped me back then.

[Big J]

Did my first 5000m today and did 18:41. Very steady 1:53/1:54 pace for the first 4300m and then upped the pace a bit.

That's the first time I've been past 2000m. It felt OK with a bit more in the tank. Muscular endurance was the main thing holding me back, rather than cardiovascular fitness.

[hjs]

Did my first 5000m today and did 18:41. Very steady 1:53/1:54 pace for the first 4300m and then upped the pace a bit.

That's the first time I've been past 2000m. It felt OK with a bit more in the tank. Muscular endurance was the main thing holding me back, rather than cardiovascular fitness.

You should feel, like you got a good bit left, goal is getting used to the motion and getting fitter. And over time, you get faster. If at the same time your strenght stays where it is, your sprinting times will get faster also, without really training on sprints.
Even a 500 is still 55/60 strokes, plenty of O2 used.

[Big J]

Did a 3:14.9 1000m this evening. A steady, but demanding pace. It was done after a number of sets of heavy strict pressing, but I don't think it taxed me terribly. Pleased to improve my pb by 5.5 seconds.

Here is a video taken during that set. Please critique the form, but not the belly I'm working on that.

https://youtu.be/llA8-3ofDFw

[hjs]

Did a 3:14.9 1000m this evening. A steady, but demanding pace. It was done after a number of sets of heavy strict pressing, but I don't think it taxed me terribly. Pleased to improve my pb by 5.5 seconds.

Here is a video taken during that set. Please critique the form, but not the belly I'm working on that.

https://youtu.be/llA8-3ofDFw

Very short.

Would focus on two things. First, try to sit up a bit more, that way you can rock over a bit more. If you do you can use your hips more and brace your back. So sit really on your glutes and not shift a bit more in the direction of your upper glutes.

Second, arms actively push them forward and try to use the as “long” as possible. Think “arm are hooks” like a deadlift. Only during the finish you pull them in.

[Big J]

Did a 3:14.9 1000m this evening. A steady, but demanding pace. It was done after a number of sets of heavy strict pressing, but I don't think it taxed me terribly. Pleased to improve my pb by 5.5 seconds.

Here is a video taken during that set. Please critique the form, but not the belly I'm working on that.

https://youtu.be/llA8-3ofDFw

Very short.

Would focus on two things. First, try to sit up a bit more, that way you can rock over a bit more. If you do you can use your hips more and brace your back. So sit really on your glutes and not shift a bit more in the direction of your upper glutes.

Second, arms actively push them forward and try to use the as “long” as possible. Think “arm are hooks” like a deadlift. Only during the finish you pull them in.

Thanks for that. I shall incorporate that into my session

I hadn't actually realised until seeing the video that I've only got about 3cm of track left on the machine. Good job I'm not any taller

[hjs]

Did a 3:14.9 1000m this evening. A steady, but demanding pace. It was done after a number of sets of heavy strict pressing, but I don't think it taxed me terribly. Pleased to improve my pb by 5.5 seconds.

Here is a video taken during that set. Please critique the form, but not the belly I'm working on that.

https://youtu.be/llA8-3ofDFw

Very short.

Would focus on two things. First, try to sit up a bit more, that way you can rock over a bit more. If you do you can use your hips more and brace your back. So sit really on your glutes and not shift a bit more in the direction of your upper glutes.

Second, arms actively push them forward and try to use the as “long” as possible. Think “arm are hooks” like a deadlift. Only during the finish you pull them in.

Thanks for that. I shall incorporate that into my session

I hadn't actually realised until seeing the video that I've only got about 3cm of track left on the machine. Good job I'm not any taller

There is actually a longer rail for really long legged people the 6.9 plus guys.

[JMac]

Check out the video below, 5:55 in. He got 1:14

https://youtu.be/35Gf5Gmm9Mw

He looks like he's on a kids toy

Really making the best of it . Nice long arm action. He can’t get around spreading his legs.
But this is a good example of showing how fast 1.15 is. He really went for it, and got 1.14.x

Below A 113.7 from Bernard Phaller. Complete different kind of physic. 187 93kg ish. So half of Brian

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5g3D9uF11a8

Just seen this, incredible power from an "average" sized guy.