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Re: Shawn Baker training

Post by aharmer » July 13th, 2017, 11:13 pm

jackarabit wrote:The "curtain" has fallen on that chapter, Harmer :!: At the current time, the sprint thread remains locked. Give it time.
I can't lie, I miss it.

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Re: Shawn Baker training

Post by edinborogh » July 13th, 2017, 11:53 pm

hey all,
1. who is Shawn baker?
2. if a training routine, tips and advices is interesting - by all means lets have it
3. if there was such thread and a new one cannot be created - how about someone comb over the closed thread and copy/paste the important training posts?
4. humble advice to forum ( and any social media in general ) moderator - banning users, closing threads and such should be done carefully and not based on the moderator time and availability. a forum is a community property and as long as guide lines are respected.

i would love to learn more about people's trainings!

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Re: Shawn Baker training

Post by aharmer » July 14th, 2017, 12:37 am

edinborogh wrote:hey all,
1. who is Shawn baker?
2. if a training routine, tips and advices is interesting - by all means lets have it
3. if there was such thread and a new one cannot be created - how about someone comb over the closed thread and copy/paste the important training posts?
4. humble advice to forum ( and any social media in general ) moderator - banning users, closing threads and such should be done carefully and not based on the moderator time and availability. a forum is a community property and as long as guide lines are respected.

i would love to learn more about people's trainings!
With all respect, your post is a rambling drunken mess. Keep to the other threads. This thread is about SB''s training and diet. From here on, let's see his posts. Unless of course RC is pardoned. In that case we'll need to make room for another world class sprinter:)

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Re: Shawn Baker training

Post by edinborogh » July 14th, 2017, 12:55 am

aharmer wrote:
edinborogh wrote:hey all,
1. who is Shawn baker?
2. if a training routine, tips and advices is interesting - by all means lets have it
3. if there was such thread and a new one cannot be created - how about someone comb over the closed thread and copy/paste the important training posts?
4. humble advice to forum ( and any social media in general ) moderator - banning users, closing threads and such should be done carefully and not based on the moderator time and availability. a forum is a community property and as long as guide lines are respected.

i would love to learn more about people's trainings!
With all respect, your post is a rambling drunken mess - thanks i guess... why thou?

Keep to the other threads - always. super informative and great community, i wouldnt give it for the world. thou you are implying that i have no room here - why?
This thread is about SB''s training and diet - awesome. love to learn from other people's experience. yet again, a bio of SB would be beneficial for clueless people like me.

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Re: Shawn Baker training

Post by edinborogh » July 14th, 2017, 3:09 am

paul45 wrote:Filling in the gaps.

1. In answer to Casey Clarkes comment.

As Gregsmith replied "Casey's English skills are not great".

I did a 2kr20 @ 1:58.8 ave, by god it hurt, Casey's reply " 1:55, very poor effort Paul, Pete Marston very kindly stepped
in and very kindly stuck up for me, in length to in his reply, that 2k really hurt.

Casey sent me private messages telling me I was mentally weak, another guy was stronger than you.
The list is endless how rude he was.

Putting up troll pictures, horrible pics at that.

The list is long on personal attacks.

Moving on - after a very long break I have busted my balls off and not like Ranger I actually did all those sessions.

More importantly all this because I replied to Henry about Shawn does zero cardio, believe you me if some of you
actually tried doing them.

Most in the rowing world are very kind and supportive, but some off you are not.

Putting Sam Loch down Henry and Leo Young saying trying to be like them is silly, Sam Loch firstly
gave me advice through private message, ask him if you like, Leo Young gave huge advice on here
as did Shawn.

Pete Plan is by whom Pete Marston right, nobody is trying to be like Pete.

How dare you, and Anth if you ever want to know why there is 9'r between 3 x 300m and 7'30 between 4 x 250m
send Sam an email and stop following Henry around.

I have asked for my account to be removed it has not but I will say this my training will continue bar this I can reassure you.

You are kind to me, likewise, you insult me I will fight back.

Anyway nobody after the work ive put in talks to me like that.

So you can blagard me all you want and the moderator says Paul45 don't reply :twisted: :twisted:
sorry the real world doesn't work like that.

Il give concept 2 a call they might close my account, but if you ever want to slag someone off say it to there face
not behind a lap top, or come and watch them doing a session or two, you then might just realise that
the effort put in.

All this because of a reply to Shawn regarding cardio, honestly :lol:

I like Shawn was part of that thread, how the hell is that remark offensive.

I will ignore future comments and I pray concept 2 can close my account as I do not want to be part
of this.

Big men, no that's for sure, very rude that I do know to be true.

Pffff come on Paul. who cares? my best 2K effort to date is 2:18 split - pathetic by any means and standard - who cares?
you do your training for your own goal, and you report back, feedback on what you did how you did how it felt what you will do next.. thats the essence of community. you will find ignorance, disbelieve, tizzing, trolling and even down right bullying - and again, who cares?
i have learned a lot from people's approach to indoor rowing. i learned a lot from their pain, feedback, success, setting up goals, sharing what worked and what did not work for them.. if you quit, if you let go on commenting and sharing, that would be a shame.
i am not a sprinter, never got in to that and nor in to PB's of 2K or anything at all - i like rowing and i like to learn how others are manifesting their relationship with the C2 machine and this sport and hobby. i know its a bit out of line, but i sure do hope you will re-consider deleting your account.
just my two cents..

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Re: Shawn Baker training

Post by hjs » July 14th, 2017, 3:40 am

Paul is around a long time, and he simply is who he is. Doesn,t do what he does on purpose. He sometimes gets overly enthousiastic. I will leave it at that.

I myself also am to blame, not the first time that I am party involved in a thread closing. So don,t blame Paul alone.

Moderation, think concept2 is not strict enough, people should be warned sooner.

Shawns thread, not manny people posted in the sprintthread, I think mostly because it was aimed at high level work.
Paul probarly should have kept more in the background here. Not that he does not have the right to post there, but his training is simply not on a level that is super interesting. No doubt he will disagree.

And last, having personal blogs would be a great feature, training info is now put all over the place. On the former uk forum the blogs where by far the most active part. But I am proberly not enough into social media....... Where all the action is these days.

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Re: Shawn Baker training

Post by JMac » July 14th, 2017, 4:57 am

hjs wrote:
Shawns thread, not manny people posted in the sprintthread, I think mostly because it was aimed at high level work.
Paul probarly should have kept more in the background here. Not that he does not have the right to post there, but his training is simply not on a level that is super interesting. No doubt he will disagree.
As someone new to rowing, I'm interested in both "high level work" as well as the work of those who might not be considered high level, but are trying new things to improve themselves.
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Re: Shawn Baker training

Post by hjs » July 14th, 2017, 5:38 am

JMac wrote:
hjs wrote:
Shawns thread, not manny people posted in the sprintthread, I think mostly because it was aimed at high level work.
Paul probarly should have kept more in the background here. Not that he does not have the right to post there, but his training is simply not on a level that is super interesting. No doubt he will disagree.
As someone new to rowing, I'm interested in both "high level work" as well as the work of those who might not be considered high level, but are trying new things to improve themselves.
Fine, playing in a beer team is great fun, but we won,t have them in the champions league. They have every right to play ofcourse.

Paul is around for years, and never pulled a pb, only got worse, and yes he pulled a 1 min pb.... Reason, he never tried before. And like Casey, I helped him lots of times via pm contact, but once you step on his toes he turnes very easily against you.

I stopped posting my stuff for a few reasons but mostly because it was silly, and see no place atm where I could/should.



Personal blogs would the solution to me. It keeps stuff more clear.

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Re: Shawn Baker training

Post by sjors » July 14th, 2017, 6:36 am

hjs wrote: Personal blogs would the solution to me. It keeps stuff more clear.
I use the https://log.concept2.com to log my stuff.
I know you do that as well. But what does it lacks, that you bring up the personal blog?
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Re: Shawn Baker training

Post by hjs » July 14th, 2017, 6:47 am

sjors wrote:
hjs wrote: Personal blogs would the solution to me. It keeps stuff more clear.
I use the https://log.concept2.com to log my stuff.
I know you do that as well. But what does it lacks, that you bring up the personal blog?
Siebe, you could react on the blogs, so you got, sometimes long conversations. Some people had super blogs, with all sorts of info. This site is nothing compared to that.

The logbook I use for personal logging, ranking stuff. Interaction with other rowers is minimal.
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Re: Shawn Baker training

Post by sjors » July 14th, 2017, 6:51 am

hjs wrote:
sjors wrote:
hjs wrote: Personal blogs would the solution to me. It keeps stuff more clear.
I use the https://log.concept2.com to log my stuff.
I know you do that as well. But what does it lacks, that you bring up the personal blog?
Siebe, you could react on the blogs, so you got, sometimes long conversations. Some people had super blogs, with all sorts of info. This site is nothing compared to that.
Do you have example? Maybe I could create something....
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Re: Shawn Baker training

Post by lindsayh » July 14th, 2017, 7:05 am

hjs wrote:Personal blogs would the solution to me. It keeps stuff more clear.
I agree with Henry - one thing missing here was the real strength of the old UK forum - a personal blog where you recorded your training as your own thread and each entry was a session which could then be commented or not and seen by all. There was then a chronological record off your own training as well without the distractions of the "what training" thread here. Some sessions got no comments and some heaps of input.
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Re: Shawn Baker training

Post by Anth_F » July 14th, 2017, 7:08 am

paul45 wrote: Anth if you ever want to know why there is 9'r between 3 x 300m and 7'30 between 4 x 250m
send Sam an email and stop following Henry around.

I will ignore future comments and I pray concept 2 can close my account as I do not want to be part
of this.
I didn't want to know that, or send Sam an email. I can use my own initiative and do my own things thanks. I also was not aware i was following Henry around... my posts just sometimes happen to be after his! Lets call it coincidence.

:lol: Ignore future stuff? Gimmie a break, you always say that and that you are leaving blah blah but end up not being able to help yourself and jump right back on in again when you get a thirst for a bit more drama. In fact you said you were done and the matter was ended on the 1st page of this thread, but yet again here you are still posting away :roll:
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Re: Shawn Baker training

Post by hjs » July 14th, 2017, 7:25 am

sjors wrote: Do you have example? Maybe I could create something....
No, they all got deleted...

It was nothing fancy, just a button a single user could post blog entries and other members could read those and comment.
Some where very basic, others lots of effort.

Maybe others have a comparable format?

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Re: Shawn Baker training

Post by G-dub » July 14th, 2017, 7:31 am

What gets to me is why he thinks that just because HE is working hard that no one else is. That he feels the need to remind everyone that he is working hard (he doth protest too much at times, me thinks). That he needs to remind everyone, with way too much space taken up in the thread, how it "bloody well hurt". That he needs to point fingers at people and not allow them to be pointed back. That he rides people to test, but doesn't test himself. That he acts like he is part of some inner circle of elite athletes, when he really isn't. That he thinks eating protein 5 nights a week is some sort of miracle drug (what was he eating before?). That at least once a week he has to blow up a thread.

But those that said it "is a community" are right. He is passionate, has dreams and probably is in his own head too much, just like we all can be. It's just not that big of a deal. We are all older wannabes that use this forum to motivate ourselves. Paul, you need this forum, or at least want it, to motivate yourself. Why not take a step back and think about why people are wanting you gone? Do you have any part to play in that? Maybe there are some lessons to be learned and we are never too old for those. And the lesson I am learning is that I shouldn't react to the things you say. Its just a big waste of time and energy.
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