What time should i be aiming for on a 2k Test.

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Re: What time should i be aiming for on a 2k Test.

Post by Anth_F » September 26th, 2016, 3:23 pm

Gammmmo wrote:
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Edward4492 wrote:Looks like a perfect piece to me. Went out at a do-able pace and very slight negative splitting at the end. I don't think you went out too hot, you didn't blow up at all. And if you had more in the tank you would have burned it at the end. Just based on what your screen shot shows, I think you have a perfect barometer as to where you are and can now plan your work outs accordingly.
Thanks my friend.

I'm just thinking if i had started out at 1:52.0, that maybe i could have really found that extra gear to crank it up in the last 500m and seen 1:49's or better. Oh well, i am still a very happy chappy and lots of positives here for sure. And i've gained so much more confidence in myself and my ability, just from this.
I'm not surprised Anth. The more often you dig deep, the more habitual it becomes. It can even be addictive. The one thing is to be vigilant you still give close to 100% each time though.
Spot on mate!!! And the mental aspect is part of the challenge too, of your brain telling you negative things when you are halfway there, and you just gotta ignore that IMO. It's telling you things like the pain will get worse but you just have to keep reminding yourself no it won't.
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Re: What time should i be aiming for on a 2k Test.

Post by Anth_F » September 26th, 2016, 4:41 pm

paul45 wrote:
Galeere wrote:
Anth_F wrote:Done!! Went out the gate too hot :roll: ... and really started feeling it in the last 700, so i really think i could have gotten closer to 7:20 had i done it exactly as i had planned. But, all said and done... i am very happy with this, and have destroyed my previous 2k PB of 7:46 :D

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Very well done Anth, you earned that one :wink:
Thankyou my buddy!!! The regular hard work is most definitely paying off :D Gonna go celebrate with a nice big bottle of evian :mrgreen:
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Re: What time should i be aiming for on a 2k Test.

Post by Shawn Baker » September 26th, 2016, 4:51 pm

Well done Anthony sub 7:20 next time!!
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Re: What time should i be aiming for on a 2k Test.

Post by G-dub » September 26th, 2016, 6:46 pm

Nice work AnthF. You got after it.
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Re: What time should i be aiming for on a 2k Test.

Post by hjs » September 27th, 2016, 3:17 am

Shawn Baker wrote:Well done Anthony sub 7:20 next time!!
More looking at 7,00 flat in the future, so much still in the beginning fase...

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Re: What time should i be aiming for on a 2k Test.

Post by Anth_F » September 27th, 2016, 4:24 am

Thanks very much, Shawn (BIG FELLA :mrgreen: ) and Glen, i really appreciate the kind words guy's.
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Shawn Baker wrote:Well done Anthony sub 7:20 next time!!
More looking at 7,00 flat in the future, so much still in the beginning fase...
Yunno Henry, 7:00 or going sub is now something that has started ticking in my mind, just from that 2k yesterday!! I will even admit i am a bit suprised how quickly fitness has come along in the short time... given the fact i came into erging just in early june with zero exercise in near 2 years prior, and badly conditioned with a lazy out of shape body.

But it's a great achievement in rowing IMO going 7:00 or sub! And something to be very proud of in your lifetime (like doing a FM is) Erging for me for the most part though is not about PB's, but it's a real nice feeling when you do set a new PB for sure. I just love erging, and want to build the strongest version of myself, to be the strongest that i have ever been before, through various forms of exercise training. ( That ultimately is my goal)
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Re: What time should i be aiming for on a 2k Test.

Post by Gammmmo » September 27th, 2016, 4:43 am

For a guy of your age/build Anth, sub7 should be attainble....and then some...
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Re: What time should i be aiming for on a 2k Test.

Post by Anth_F » September 27th, 2016, 5:15 am

You would think it should be within reach at some point in the future, wouldn't you. Like the stats you have pointed out, they seem to suggest it.

I will do another 2k test around jan/feb to see where i am at with it. Very interested to see the progression by then... providing of course that i do not suffer any training setbacks etc between now and then (fingers crossed) :mrgreen:
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Re: What time should i be aiming for on a 2k Test.

Post by hjs » September 27th, 2016, 5:16 am

Anth_F wrote:Thanks very much, Shawn (BIG FELLA :mrgreen: ) and Glen, i really appreciate the kind words guy's.
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Shawn Baker wrote:Well done Anthony sub 7:20 next time!!
More looking at 7,00 flat in the future, so much still in the beginning fase...
Yunno Henry, 7:00 or going sub is now something that has started ticking in my mind, just from that 2k yesterday!! I will even admit i am a bit suprised how quickly fitness has come along in the short time... given the fact i came into erging just in early june with zero exercise in near 2 years prior, and badly conditioned with a lazy out of shape body.

But it's a great achievement in rowing IMO going 7:00 or sub! And something to be very proud of in your lifetime (like doing a FM is) Erging for me for the most part though is not about PB's, but it's a real nice feeling when you do set a new PB for sure. I just love erging, and want to build the strongest version of myself, to be the strongest that i have ever been before, through various forms of exercise training. ( That ultimately is my goal)
Its ofcourse mostly about the journey, enyoying it and feeling fit and healthy. Reaching something is different I think for everybody. I myself have a tendency to think, If I can do, its not that special :wink: maybe not the best way to look at things.

My 7 min idea for you is simply based on how you erg now, in time everybody can rate 30/32, certainly a lightweight and being height. This and your stroke, which will at least stay as strong as it now makes 7 min realistic.
Also toughness will grow, atm you already can row sub 7.20, but thats not important, you simply should go on like you do now, and keep testing every few months orso.
Don,t think small, think bigger, with realism Ofcourse :wink:

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Re: What time should i be aiming for on a 2k Test.

Post by turboskiff » September 27th, 2016, 5:35 am

With a barrier like sub 7, which is of course not a barrier at all, trick is to train to the point where predictors put it beyond doubt, 8x500mR3:30 at 1:40 for example. Then you target say 6:58 maybe 6:56.

Once you are sub 7 the myth is busted and you will go further. Good luck!

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Re: What time should i be aiming for on a 2k Test.

Post by Anth_F » September 27th, 2016, 5:43 am

Great words of wisdom, gentlemen.

Exactly, it's not a barrier... it's just a time, like any other. Yep, those 8x500's etc put it all into perspective!!!

Thats the plan, Henry!! I'll test again in around jan/feb to see where i am at by then.
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Re: What time should i be aiming for on a 2k Test.

Post by Gammmmo » September 27th, 2016, 5:44 am

turboskiff wrote:Once you are sub 7 the myth is busted and you will go further. Good luck!
^ This. My "myth" right now is sub 18min 5K. Feels like a barrier just like sub7 was. Once you go sub7, you'll be able to do it again more easily.
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Re: What time should i be aiming for on a 2k Test.

Post by Anth_F » September 27th, 2016, 7:10 am

Gammmmo wrote:
turboskiff wrote:Once you are sub 7 the myth is busted and you will go further. Good luck!
^ This. My "myth" right now is sub 18min 5K. Feels like a barrier just like sub7 was. Once you go sub7, you'll be able to do it again more easily.
Yeah, i mean i do completely get that side of it too. Not really any dissimilar to wanting to go sub 8:00 2k. It seems a battle to get there, but once you have done, you no longer think about that and "just do" and then the time just falls off without giving it much attention. Unless you are one who is driven by wanting to PB all of the time (which IMO is not a healthy way to erg)
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Re: What time should i be aiming for on a 2k Test.

Post by gooseflight » September 27th, 2016, 7:19 am

Anth_F wrote:Unless you are one who is driven by wanting to PB all of the time (which IMO is not a healthy way to erg)
Depends a bit on where you are on the arc of development. If you're early on in your erging career and training regularly then improvement can be rapid. PBs can come from 95% efforts and can just happen in the context of a training piece.

When you get to the sharp end of your capabilities or the limits of progression in your training then it gets rather more challenging :!:
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Re: What time should i be aiming for on a 2k Test.

Post by Gammmmo » September 27th, 2016, 7:30 am

gooseflight wrote:
Anth_F wrote:Unless you are one who is driven by wanting to PB all of the time (which IMO is not a healthy way to erg)
Depends a bit on where you are on the arc of development. If you're early on in your erging career and training regularly then improvement can be rapid. PBs can come from 95% efforts and can just happen in the context of a training piece.

When you get to the sharp end of your capabilities or the limits of progression in your training then it gets rather more challenging :!:
The "problem" with erging is that it is so pure. So when you max out your body's potential, all you can really do is tweak your technique. Thankfully, I think 9/10 of people never get that close to their physical potential anyway....it's their head that stops them. This means the limitation comes from the volume of training they can handle, the amount that feels "acceptable" within the wider context of our lives, and the training composition they choose. With cycling, people have gotten rapidly better in the last 5 years not because they're producing more power or improving race technique (such as variable pacing according to course topography or weather conditions) but because of improvements and better awareness of aerodynamics. If you improve at erging, you can generaly be sure it's because you've got fitter....and irrespective of the endurance sport I've always found THAT to be the most rewarding way of getting faster.
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