Ranger's training thread

[Bob S.]

Perhaps as a bit of an extra incentive we should open the bets on how much longer this BS is going to continue ?

Until one of these takes over:

Alcohol's effects:

Cancer
Increased rates of tongue, lip, larynx, stomach, colon, breast, liver, bile duct and esophagus cancers.

The Reproductive System
Impotence, sexual dysfunction, infertility, gynecomastia, testicular atrophy, osteophenia

The Endocrine System
Diabetes, ketoacidosis, gout

The Cardiovascular System
High blood pressure, heart disease, artery disease, sudden heart failure, heart attack

The Liver
Fatty liver, alcoholic hepatitis, cirrhosis

The Blood
Anemia(s), marrow toxicity, an iron or folate deficiency, leucopenia

Increased Risks of Infection
Hep C, HIV, tuberculosis, meningitis, STD's, pneumonia

Gastrointestinal
Pancreatitis, gastritis, diarrhea (chronic) esophagatitis, colitis, acid reflux, parotid enlargement

The Brain
Seizure, Korsakof's syndrome, Wernicke's Syndrome, dementia, brain shrinkage, stroke, subdural hematoma, hemorrhage, neuropathy

Nutrition
Malnutrition from vitamin and mineral deficiencies

Bob S.

[hjs]

BTW, as far as I can tell, in terms of distance rowed, my new NK XL2 Speedcoach and my Garmin Forerunner 201 GPS match perfectly.

So, the 1.000 calibration on the XL2 is fine.

ranger

This is perfect proof that you are lying, as almost always. .

Maybe the 2 could come close but a perfect match would be impossible, there is always some kind of difference. The fact that you don't realise this when you put your nonsense down speaks again volume about you limited grey mass. And no I am not talking about your comb over.

[mikvan52]

to hjs:

Henry:

Please notice the ranger says clearly "as far as I know".... => AFAIK... => and (!) he doesn't know...
Key to troll-posting....

And: (detail about "my boat is the same as John Pauls' therefore I calibrate my NK the same")
ranger is lying (again)
http://concept2.co.uk/forum/blog.php?u=905

Look!
ranger has an "EL"
John Pauls has a different hull... They are not the same.

I Have calibrated my Fluid .... many multiple runs over an accurate 2k.

My calibration is 0.975 (vs) ranger's theoretical 1.000 (in ranger's excellent adventure-world complete with vestal virgins all dressed like EE)

Conclusion: Any time OTW should be multiplied by 1.025... ===> IOW a 2:00 pace is really 2:03 pace
Truth be told !

BTW: ranger! (looking at the pix of ewe in yur {Bot}...) I love those bedroom slippers you've substituted in for standard footware... very nice touch! Do you also use them to play shuffle board down at the "Sons of the Shepherds" mating corral?

[hjs]

Mike

indeed, come to think of it, quite clever of him to take his own posting not serious.

[ranger]

I Have calibrated my Fluid .... many multiple runs over an accurate 2k.

My calibration is 0.975

Ah.

Good to know.

I'll keep checking mine.

So over 1K, your NK XL was measuring 25 meters too long; over 2K, 50 meters too long; over 10K, 250 meters too long; over 20K, 500 meters too long?

Wow.

That's quite a bit.

I don't have to have an accurate 2K course.

I can just use my Garmin Forerunner 201 GPS.

I had it charged up and running today as I was rowing but was only casually checking distances against my NK XL2.

I'll do lots of more rigorous checks over then next few days.

Sure.

The Garmin and the NK can't possibly be perfectly matched.

But it seemed to me today that they were pretty darn close, close enough for my purposes at the moment (i.e., just learning to row).

This morning, I was much more concerned with the rhythm of my stroke.

I am now really getting the stroke, the big post in the water catch and pry with the legs when the boat is moving slowly and then the snappy back and arm finish that sends the boat away to its top speed in the recovery.

When I get it right, I do a nice 2:07 @ 22 spm, 2:00 @ 27 spm, etc., right around 7.6 SPI.

That pretty darn good for a 60s rower, but I would like to get to 8 SPI, so I need to keep working on some things.

8 SPI is 2:05 @ 22 spm, 1:58 @ 27 spm, etc.

At 15 seconds over erg times, 8 SPI OTW is right about the same as 12 SPI OTErg (1:50 @ 22 spm, 1:43 @ 27 spm, etc.), which is what I seem to prefer now, at least for distance rowing.

ranger

[snowleopard]

just learning to row

Sheesh! And, yet, you entered the ballot for the HotC

[ranger]

just learning to row

Sheesh! And, yet, you entered the ballot for the HotC

Last year, 20 boats in the Veterans race at HOCR did the course in 23:00 or slower.

That is, they pulled 2:20 pace or slower for the three miles.

At 7.6 SPI, my level of technical expertise at the moment, that's 17 spm.



When I am all trained up for it, I think I can rate 28 spm at HOCR, perhaps even 30 spm.

Sure.

There are lots of things to negotiate on a complex head race course.

But just in terms of brute speed, 7.6 SPI @ 28-30 spm is quite a bit faster than any Veteran has ever rowed the course.

Without a whole lot of major slowdowns, it would win pretty easily.

There are, what, about 50 boats in the race?

At 15 seconds per 500m over erg times, 1:56 @ 30 spm, 7.6 SPI @ 30 spm, for 5K is the equivalent of 1:41 @ 30 spm, right around my target this year for 5K OTErg.

This year, no other 60s veteran my size will come anywhere near 1:41 for 5K OTErg, much less my target, 1:39.

In all probability, OTErg, other 60s veterans this year, including Rocket Roy and Mike VB, will have a hard time pulling sub-18:00/1:48 for 5K.

ranger

[ausrwr]

just learning to row

Sheesh! And, yet, you entered the ballot for the HotC

Last year, 20 boats in the Veterans race at HOCR pulled 2:20 pace or slower.

ranger

There are several differences between you and them, including: They finished HOCR; they have finished OTHER races; and they have finished A race.

You have been unable to finish HOCR because you've been too busy avoiding it (though I'm prepared to give you credit for entering this year - as long as you didn't just make up the entry number).

You have been unable to finish other races because you have avoided entering them, after lying about your intentions to race most weekends.

And the single race you did actually show up to, you didn't finish because you couldn't steer.

The only thing that rings true is that you're still "learning to row". Here's a hint, dopey: We're all still learning to row better. Unlike you, it doesn't stop the rest of us racing, or having a go.

I sat behind a man this year who rowed respectively for UW, Oxford, and his country at the Olympics. In his own words, "I rowed better this year at Henley than I did in Beijing. I wasn't as fit, but I rowed better". Someone of that calibre can get better. But he didn't do it by not showing up and testing himself.

You wouldn't have showed at HOCR. You won't show at an indoor race, and you sure as hell won't do a FM this month, at ANY speed, or in ANY month.

Prove me wrong.

[ranger]

Here's a hint, dopey: We're all still learning to row better. Unlike you, it doesn't stop the rest of us racing, or having a go.

Naw.

Until just recently, there hasn't been any reason at all for me to race my boat.

I wasn't good enough.

I was still struggling with very basic things (e.g., good catches and finishes, proper leverage at the footplate, proper posture, clearing my oars cleanly, a proper rhythm internal to the drive, proper recoveries, proper timing and sequencing of my levers, proper grip, etc.).

Over the past couple of years, I have worked many of these things out.

So, now, I am in a position to benefit from racing OTW.

Before, I wasn't.

ranger

[ranger]

You have been unable to finish other races

OTErg?

Sure, sometimes because of weight, sometimes because I have been changing my technique (for the better) rather than preparing to race, which made racing difficult.

But it is more than a little unreasonable to say that I haven't shown up and raced OTErg.

In my nine years of participation in the sport as a pretty small 50s veteran, only 5'11", who can make weight as a lightweight, I raced OTErg about 25 times, with many _very_ positive results: six sub-6:30 rows and a dozen or so sub-6:40 rows, including three WR rows and golds in all of the major championships. I had the best 2K for my age and weight five out of the nine years, with sub-6:30 rows as a heavyweight in two of the other years.

Over this period, no other male 50s veteran raced much more or had much better results.

I suspect that after another ten years of racing, my record as a 60s veteran will be exactly parallel, if not better.

There is no reason to think otherwise.

ranger

[ranger]

I sat behind a man this year who rowed respectively for UW, Oxford, and his country at the Olympics. In his own words, "I rowed better this year at Henley than I did in Beijing. I wasn't as fit, but I rowed better". Someone of that calibre can get better. But he didn't do it by not showing up and testing himself.

My case isn't parallel to any Olympian, etc.

I didn't start rowing OTW until I was 54 years old.

I have never been in a rowing club.

I have never raced in a big boat.

I have never had a coach.

Besides two days of learn to scull, where I couldn't take a stroke, I have never had a sculling lesson.

I don't row OTW year round.

In fact, I don't even row OTW much in the spring and fall. I just row OTW for three months in the summer.

My intentions OTW have still been subordinated to my intentions OTErg. In my daily training in the summer, I do both for about equal amounts of time. I don't just row OTW.

I am married, with three children.

I have a complex job; I am not yet retired.

Etc.

ranger

[NavigationHazard]

It's safe to say that no one in the history of the sport has announced his intention to row more races and failed to register for them. Or registered for more races and failed to show for them. Or failed to start more of them when you have shown. Or handled down more often during those few races you've shown up for and actually started.

Your performance record makes Greek sovereign debt look trustworthy. Fraud.

[ranger]

It's safe to say that no one in the history of the sport has announced his intention to row more races and failed to register for them. Or registered for more races and failed to show for them. Or failed to start more of them when you have shown. Or handled down more often during those few races you've shown up for and actually started.

Your performance record makes Greek sovereign debt look trustworthy. Fraud.

Sure.

Which doesn't detract from the positive side of my racing record one bit.

I don't race on a team.

I am not a member of a club.

I am not rowing for a school or country.

I don't have a coach, other than myself.

I am not racing in a big boat with others.

When and where I race is entirely up to me.

I am just rowing for the fun, challenge, and satisfaction of it.

Sure, if you want to regard my participation in this sport as performance on demand, you are going to be mighty disappointed.

Your attitude is inappropriate.

I am not socially motivated.

I am personally motivated.

I am not doing this for you (and yours).

ranger

[ranger]

I must say:

With only one or two exceptions, perhaps, I don't think that veteran ergers have any idea how to train themselves to row well, either in terms of skill, physical capacity, or performance.

They have no idea how to put a good stroke together and then train with it until it is their own--or to get their body ready for the task.

The whole emphasis among veterans in this sport is on racing, rowing badly.

Odd.

Why would you want to bust a gut, over and over, going slow, at something you are doing badly?

ranger

[mrfit]

You do not disappoint me. I know you had no speed for racing this year. It was right there on your Kurt Kinetic workout results.