Ranger's training thread

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Citroen » June 13th, 2011, 7:37 pm

Nosmo wrote:how about dozens of ohm-farads away.
That IS smokingly clever Mr Nosmo.

1 Ohm * 1 Farad = 1 Volt * 1 Second * 1 Coulomb / (1 Coulomb * 1 Volt)

Volts and coulombs cancel leaving
1 Ohm * 1 Farad = 1 Second.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Nosmo » June 13th, 2011, 8:35 pm

Citroen wrote: That IS smokingly clever Mr Nosmo.
Really it just nerdy. Resistance times Capacitance equals times comes up all the time in electronics. RC is often called the time constant. What is interesting is that Farads are actually a distance. so if RC is time and C is a distance then R is an inverse speed. The bigger the resistance the slower the electrons go.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Bob S. » June 13th, 2011, 8:55 pm

Nosmo wrote:
Citroen wrote: That IS smokingly clever Mr Nosmo.
Really it just nerdy. Resistance times Capacitance equals times comes up all the time in electronics. RC is often called the time constant. What is interesting is that Farads are actually a distance. so if RC is time and C is a distance then R is an inverse speed. The bigger the resistance the slower the electrons go.
It's been over 60 years since I took the lower division physics courses, so my memory of the farad is rather hazy. I tried Google and came up with this great site:

http://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/chemistr ... ts_en.html

It answered my question ("how long is a farad?") with no delay.

With that website, I can quit consulting my ancient "Handbook of Physics and Chemistry" - at least for unit conversions.

Bob S.

P.S. Saw one item on that list that intrigued me - noggin. I had to go to Google for that, since I didn't know what kind of unit it was. Turned out to be volume and is the same as a gill.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Gus » June 13th, 2011, 9:04 pm

Nosmo wrote: RC is often called the time constant.
RC = Rich Cureton? Is that because no matter how much time passes he's constantly spouting the same BS?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Bob S. » June 13th, 2011, 9:10 pm

Bob S. wrote: P.S. Saw one item on that list that intrigued me - noggin. I had to go to Google for that, since I didn't know what kind of unit it was. Turned out to be volume and is the same as a gill.
a sudden (sodden) thought. I should go back to that site and see how many firkins there are per noggin.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Citroen » June 14th, 2011, 3:57 am

Bob S. wrote: P.S. Saw one item on that list that intrigued me - noggin. I had to go to Google for that, since I didn't know what kind of unit it was. Turned out to be volume and is the same as a gill.
Is that an American gill or an Imperial gill?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » June 14th, 2011, 11:06 am

Another beautiful day here in Door County.

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Nice 6K in perfect condition OTW on Europe Lake after 12K OTErg.

Mostly 1:48 @ 23 spm OTErg.

Was doing some 2:01 @ 25 spm, 1:59 @ 27 spm, etc., OTW.

Happy with that.

Over to the Islands (Washington, Rock, etc.) today with friends and relatives (my brother-in-law, significant other, and lifelong friend) for a day of biking and hiking.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by becz » June 14th, 2011, 11:33 am

Citroen wrote:
Bob S. wrote: P.S. Saw one item on that list that intrigued me - noggin. I had to go to Google for that, since I didn't know what kind of unit it was. Turned out to be volume and is the same as a gill.
Is that an American gill or an Imperial gill?
Huh? I-- I don't know that! Auuuuuuuugh!

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Bob S. » June 14th, 2011, 1:14 pm

Citroen wrote:
Bob S. wrote: P.S. Saw one item on that list that intrigued me - noggin. I had to go to Google for that, since I didn't know what kind of unit it was. Turned out to be volume and is the same as a gill.
Is that an American gill or an Imperial gill?
I didn't check that. All I can say is that it wouldn't be a fish gill, because the usual fish has 2 gills and only one noggin.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by mikvan52 » June 14th, 2011, 5:46 pm

Ok, Rich, the big day is here!
You can now register for the Head of the Charles using the following link:

http://www.hocr.org/competitors/onlineap.asp

My guess is that you won't as you are "much better than that now" :lol:
Remember, "racing is redundant"! B)

Seriously, if you don't get accepted in the draw, where will you be head racing this season where entry is assured?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Byron Drachman » June 14th, 2011, 6:45 pm

mikvan52 wrote:Ok, Rich, the big day is here!
You can now register for the Head of the Charles using the following link:

http://www.hocr.org/competitors/onlineap.asp

My guess is that you won't as you are "much better than that now" :lol:
Remember, "racing is redundant"! B)

Seriously, if you don't get accepted in the draw, where will you be head racing this season where entry is assured?
Ranger wrote:June 24, 2008: I'll do the Head of the Charles when I am 60.

June 11, 2008: I now do fine on the water. --snip--I will race a new elite 1x (not my tub of a Peinert) in the Nationals when I am 60.

April 22, 2009: I have been doing dedicated and focused OTW rowing for five years. --snip-- I am now ready to race OTW.

March 14, 2010: I am going to stay a stable 160 lbs. this summer so that I can kick Mike VB's butt OTW in my 1x at the Nationals.

June 27, 2010: given that I was just out in my Fluid, doing 1:56 @ 31 spm. No one my age is rowing any better, including Dietz and Spousta, who, between them, have won the Head of the Charles a couple of dozen times.

June 25, 2010: I'll do a round of head races this fall, as I planned to do last fall, but didn't.

June 27, 2010: No need for Craftsbury, if I am rowing this well. No one my age is rowing any better.

June 28, 2010: I will enter a full round of head races in September and October.

July 27, 2010: --snip--I will race at the Head of the Charles next year in the Veterans race.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Steve G » June 14th, 2011, 6:48 pm

ranger wrote:Another beautiful day here in Door County.

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Nice 6K in perfect condition OTW on Europe Lake after 12K OTErg.

Mostly 1:48 @ 23 spm OTErg.

Was doing some 2:01 @ 25 spm, 1:59 @ 27 spm, etc., OTW.

Happy with that.

Over to the Islands (Washington, Rock, etc.) today with friends and relatives (my brother-in-law, significant other, and lifelong friend) for a day of biking and hiking.

ranger
A perfect day and only 6K Rich, bit shy of your 20K you have been building up to for eons now !
Hows the marathon at 1.48 coming along, you must be up to at least a HM now ?
BTW you mentioned mostly 1.48 pace @23SPM OTErg during your 12K session, fantastic figures, did you achieve perhaps 10K at this rate?

All the best

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » June 14th, 2011, 9:34 pm

Steve G wrote:A perfect day and only 6K Rich, bit shy of your 20K you have been building up to for eons now
Sure.

I had to cut my OTW rowing short because we had to make a ferry to the islands.

So it goes.

We rode our bikes for five hours on the islands.

Absolutely _gorgeous_ day.

To die for, in one of the most beautiful spots on the planet.

Then, back to the cabin for pesto, garlic bread, salad, red wine and beer.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » June 15th, 2011, 7:30 am

Another beautiful day up here in Door County, WI.

Stiff wind from the south.

12K OTErg before breakfast.

I'll get out OTW later in the day.

I am getting beautifully stable, efficient distance rowing now at 12 SPI, 24-30 spm, OTErg.

So, give or take a bit, I am rowing right at my targets:

24 spm FM @ 1:46
25 spm HM @ 1:45
26 spm 60min @ 1:44
27 spm 10K @ 1:42
28 spm 30min 1:41
29 spm 6K 1:40
30 spm 5K 1:39

I'll need to hit all of these distance targets to pull 1:34/6:16 for 2K.

12 SPI is not rowing perfectly, but it is pretty darn good for an old lightweight like me, especially for distance rowing.

Delighted with that.

1:34/6:16 for 2K is 12 SPI @ 35 spm.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » June 15th, 2011, 7:36 am

Steve G wrote: Hows the marathon at 1.48 coming along, you must be up to at least a HM now ?
A FM just tests your diligence in training and your technique, how well you row, your natural stroking power.

If you are diligent in your training, at a standard 24 spm, you can read FM times right off of technical achievement.

2:02/2:50 8 SPI
1:58/2:45 9 SPI
1:54/2:40 10 SPI
1:50/2:35 11 SPI
1:46/2:30 12 SPI
1:44/2:25 13 SPI

The 60s lwt FM WR is 2:00 pace.

The Open lwt FM WR is 1:46.5 pace.

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