Ranger's training thread

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by mikvan52 » February 7th, 2011, 7:42 am

Yesterday ranger spoke of "running out of gas" at the BIRC.
This morning he's gone hyperactive with his posting again. THE GAS IS BACK! ending with
the bard of bull wrote:He won't come anywhere near my 6:16
USING HIS loosey-goosey logic, ranger's 7:00+ 2k at the BIRC (w/o gas) perfectly explains why he'll row a 6:16 at WIRC.
:lol: :lol: :lol:


..... I now know what this "gas" is....... NITROUS OXIDE
Crash-B will be a riot. Another ranger Crash & Burn. B)

It's useless for me to wade through his comments looking for his reason why he cannot post an IND_V 500m piece when he touts his ability to do a 500 in 1:24...
Yesterday he said it would "destroy his training" being too hard for him to handle.
Man, he's a real tough guy! :P
When a 1:24 erg cannot whip out 60 or so strokes at 1:30 pace you know you've got a liar on your hands.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by bellboy » February 7th, 2011, 8:55 am

ranger wrote:
macroth wrote:This post is impossibly ironic, when you think of these past several years when the clock was ticking for ranger to beat Rocket Roy's 55-59 lwt record. Now, supposedly, Paul S is supposed to give a flying speck what he pulls at "just shy of 53", just so rangerboy can feel better about being out of the world record books.
Learning to row well has been much more important to me than getting in the WR books in the 55s lwt age division.

I will be racing--both OTErg in the winter and OTW in the spring, summer, and fall--for the rest of my life.

Learning to row well has been an investment in the future for me.

And when I pull a lwt 6:16 at 60 OTErg, I won't care that someone five years younger was 22 seconds slower (and now is 35 seconds slower).

I will hold the 60s WRs in both weight divisions.

Rocket Roy will have his 55s lwt record for a couple more years.

Then Paul Siebach will blow it out of the water, probably by several seconds.

On the other hand, Siebach won't row much better than 6:40 when he is 60.

Rocket Roy won't row much better than 6:50 when he is 60.

And that's all she wrote.

For the rest of my life, I'll beat everybody.

No one else will ever row a lwt 6:16 at 60--or match any of the lwt times I do after that.

Sure, a heavyweight will eventually row better than 6:16 at 60, but even that might not occur until well into the future.

Other than Paul Hendershott, so far, no 60s heavyweight in the history of the sport has done better than 6:30 for 2K.

When he is 60, Dick Cashin will have a hard time pulling Hendersott's 6:24.

He won't come anywhere near my 6:16.

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Nurse! Fetch the straightjacket please. We must i repeat must get this man away from his keyboard.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by heptasyllabic » February 7th, 2011, 10:52 am

ranger wrote:
If I row well, stay right on the beat, and row a FM right through, I can do 1:48/2:32 listening to "Steamroller."

If I row well, stay right on the beat, and row 60min right through, I can do 1:44/17.3K listening to "Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy."

If I row well, stay right on the beat, and row a 2K right through, I can do 1:34/6:16 listening to "Good Time."

If I row well, stay right on the beat, and row a 1K right through, I can do 1:30/3:00 listening to "Wipe Out."
Prove it.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by jliddil » February 7th, 2011, 11:29 am

heptasyllabic wrote:
ranger wrote: Prove it.
This thread is pure fantasy. Nothing will ever be proved. This is all purely philosophical.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 7th, 2011, 12:09 pm

heptasyllabic wrote:
ranger wrote:
If I row well, stay right on the beat, and row a FM right through, I can do 1:48/2:32 listening to "Steamroller."

If I row well, stay right on the beat, and row 60min right through, I can do 1:44/17.3K listening to "Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy."

If I row well, stay right on the beat, and row a 2K right through, I can do 1:34/6:16 listening to "Good Time."

If I row well, stay right on the beat, and row a 1K right through, I can do 1:30/3:00 listening to "Wipe Out."
Prove it.
That's just the intention.

The reason you train is to try to realize such intentions.

I am training 2-4 hours a day.

I now have the prerequisites in place (fitness and skills) to realize my intentions.

So the hard tasks are accomplished.

I am now just working toward getting it done, getting it done--putting in the meters, trials, races, etc.

I suspect that this will entail balancing and rotating my four "musical" sessions (23 spm, 26 spm, 33 spm, 38 spm, rowing well (13 SPI) at low drag (119 df.).

The major problem in doing anything significant is not getting it done but not having the means/materials/methods/prerequisites/etc. to get it done.

I no longer have that problem.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 7th, 2011, 12:15 pm

mikvan52 wrote:When a 1:24 erg cannot whip out 60 or so strokes at 1:30 pace you know you've got a liar on your hands.
500s at 1:30 are indeed coming up for me, but not just one, 8 x 500m (3:30 rest) at 1:30.

Then 1K @ 1:30.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by MRapp » February 7th, 2011, 12:21 pm

ranger wrote:
mikvan52 wrote:When a 1:24 erg cannot whip out 60 or so strokes at 1:30 pace you know you've got a liar on your hands.
500s at 1:30 are indeed coming up for me, but not just one, 8 x 500m (3:30 rest) at 1:30.

Then 1K @ 1:30.

ranger
So please tell me what excuse you will have for not showing a single 8x500 two months from now.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ausrwr » February 7th, 2011, 12:59 pm

ranger wrote:
mikvan52 wrote:When a 1:24 erg cannot whip out 60 or so strokes at 1:30 pace you know you've got a liar on your hands.
500s at 1:30 are indeed coming up for me, but not just one, 8 x 500m (3:30 rest) at 1:30.

Then 1K @ 1:30.

ranger
We're never going to hold your breath for 8 of them, because you're not even capable of one. Not at 1:30 @ 30 or any other rate.

It's about as likely as you pulling 6:16 for 2k.

The only way you'll ever pull a 6:16 at Crash-Bs is if you stop at 6:16. Probably with 300 to go.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by luckylindy » February 7th, 2011, 4:20 pm

If he can do a 7:00 2k, shouldn't he be able to do a 1:30 500? I've never done a 2k trial, but I assume I would be somewhere around 7:00 ... my 500 PB is 1:29.

The only reason I can think that ranger doesn't just post a 1:30 500 and claim it was part of training is it would decrease the attention he receives. I think he went to Indy with the intent to DNS, specifically so people would start posting here again.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by mikvan52 » February 7th, 2011, 4:27 pm

"I am training 2-4 hours a day.

I think I am one super-fast grey beard.

I now have the prerequisites in place (fitness and skills) to realize my intentions.

However, I cannot row 60-70 strokes at 1:30 even though I can do 10 x 20-70 strokes at 1:30.
This makes total sense to me and me alone.

So the hard tasks are accomplished.

All that's left is to keep talking about what I cannot do, ad nauseum.
Only "naysayers" would call this lying.

I am now planning my excuse for not being able to row at Crash-Bs for the sixth straight year.
What was it that Harry B used to call me? Is the queen's hand bag still insured by Lloyds of London?

Thanks for your attention everyone. Even my dog doesn't wag its tail when it sees me anymore."

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 7th, 2011, 4:55 pm

mikvan52 wrote:However, I cannot row 60-70 strokes at 1:30
Cannot?

I didn't say that at all.

Just the opposite.

I can, but I prefer more productive training at the moment.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 7th, 2011, 5:03 pm

mikvan52 wrote:Even my dog doesn't wag its tail when it sees me anymore
Naw.

My Lab loves to greet everybody.

It's her favorite thing.

She'd be the worst guard dog in the history of the world.

Yea, if it's good, other people's training on the erg is pretty boring.

The point isn't social or aesthetic.

The point is emotional and physical.

It's like singing your favorite song.

It's great for you, but just unnecessary noise to someone else.

So it goes.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ausrwr » February 7th, 2011, 5:40 pm

ranger wrote:
The point isn't social or aesthetic.

The point is emotional and physical.

It's like singing your favorite song.

It's great for you, but just unnecessary noise to someone else.

So it goes.

ranger
So, by that logic, you'd prefer masturbation to sex.

What a pity your parents didn't.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 7th, 2011, 7:26 pm

ausrwr wrote:
ranger wrote:
The point isn't social or aesthetic.

The point is emotional and physical.

It's like singing your favorite song.

It's great for you, but just unnecessary noise to someone else.

So it goes.

ranger
So, by that logic, you'd prefer masturbation to sex.

What a pity your parents didn't.
Sex isn't social, either, if put in its proper place.

It's personal, unless you're stepping out on your partner/loved one, whenever it moves you.

Sure, sex has been made social and individual, but that's just the spirit of our times, which no longer recognizes the personal/religious and metaphysical/mystical.

Too bad.

Masturbation is individual, a concern for self that is distanced even further from the personal.

But what would you know?

BTW, I have been happily married for 35 years, and have raised three children, ages 27, 25, and 23, to adulthood.

How about you?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 7th, 2011, 7:38 pm

ausrwr wrote:So, by that logic, you'd prefer masturbation to sex.
Nope.

By that logic, I prefer sex with a lover to prostitution and masturbation.

You seem attracted to the latter.

To each his own.

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