Ranger's training thread

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 2nd, 2011, 8:31 am

BTW, it is not at all bad to listen to "Steamroller"--over and over.

The King could really belt it.

In this performance, he is really having fun.

Hit it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VXr6U-B ... re=related

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ben990 » February 2nd, 2011, 8:38 am

When is your next race going to be?
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Groundhog Day

Post by Byron Drachman » February 2nd, 2011, 8:45 am

Ranger wrote:March 30, 2010: Sharpening routines are TR and AN.

July 12, 2010: In 2001-2002, I started sharpening for winter races (WIRC qualifiers and WIRC) on September 1st. I'll do that again this year.

August 9, 2010: For the six months of this next indoor racing season (September, October, November, December, January, February), I will indeed be sharpening hard.

September 5, 2010: I will be sharpening for the next six months. That should be more than enough time to get fully trained.

September 19, 2010: I am now sharpening, preparing to race, both OTW and OTErg.

September 25, 2010: Now, I am sharpening, too.

October 27, 2010: Sharpening is coming along just fine. I am delighted with it.

Feb 1, 2011: I haven't been rowing at AT, TR, and AN heart rates at all, in fact, not even at top-end UT1 heart rates.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 2nd, 2011, 8:46 am

BTW, in 2002-2003, when I rowed badly (10 SPI) at max drag (200+ df.), I could only do 1:48 @ 22 spm (12.5) at AT (180 bpm), no possibility of steady state, much less at a UT2 HR.

I could only do 5K before my HR went up to max and I had to stop.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by macroth » February 2nd, 2011, 9:00 am

ben990 wrote:When is your next race going to be?
ranger wrote:My registration form is now in for the "Record Challenge" at the Chicago venue on Feb. 26th.

So I have a month to continue to sharpen, get to weight, and try to beat Brian Bailey's 60s lwt WR of 6:42.

Then, I will also race at Detroit as a lightweight the weekend after that.

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A few things stand out:
- He has a month (3.5 weeks) to continue to sharpen, which begs the question, ror just how long has he already been sharpening?

- Despite the debacle at BIRC, ranger still plans on racing as a lightweight. With his D300MDNS (drove 300 miles but did not start) in Indy and his DNR's (did not register) for Toronto, Cincinnati, and Boston this means no heavyweight races after all --unless the weigh-in procedures in Chicago and Detroit aren't lenient enough.

- Forget 6:16, he's focusing on Bailey's 6:42. Not a bad target, since he managed 6:41 last year.

One of the most rational ranger posts in years! :D
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ausrwr » February 2nd, 2011, 9:25 am

I hope we have forumites in both Chicago and Detroit to make sure that the weigh-in procedures are followed as per CRASH-B guidelines...

Not that I think Rich can get near a 6:41 anyway, but I'd hate for him to take advantage of lenient enforcement to get a WR he doesn't deserve.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by 2 B a motofiller » February 2nd, 2011, 9:33 am

Tinpusher wrote:Maybe he's waiting until he does the qualifying time in Toronto this weekend? :!:
Wait a minute...he's not entered there either. :lol:
So much for 6 races on consecutive weekends. :roll: I just don't know what to believe anymore. :lol:

He's entered this Saturday 5 February, Motown Madness -- check Regatta Central

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by mikvan52 » February 2nd, 2011, 10:02 am

macroth wrote:
rational ranger posts
Go easy on the oxymorons, my friend... :D

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 2nd, 2011, 10:08 am

ausrwr wrote:I hope we have forumites in both Chicago and Detroit to make sure that the weigh-in procedures are followed as per CRASH-B guidelines...

Not that I think Rich can get near a 6:41 anyway, but I'd hate for him to take advantage of lenient enforcement to get a WR he doesn't deserve.
Chicago is twice as tight at the weigh-in as BIRC or WIRC.

The weigh-in doesn't even open until an hour before I race.

The final regatta at Detroit didn't even have a weigh in last year.

Last year, I just brought my own scales and asked one of the officials to weigh me in two hours before I raced and give me a signed statement verifying that this was done.

None of this will matter if I am ready to race, though.

If I am ready to race, I'll row quite a bit faster than I did back in 2002-2003.

If I do, I will put the 60s lwt WR where it will never be broken--by anyone, Eskild included.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by mikvan52 » February 2nd, 2011, 10:15 am

ausrwr wrote:I hope we have forumites in both Chicago and Detroit to make sure that the weigh-in procedures are followed as per CRASH-B guidelines...

Not that I think Rich can get near a 6:41 anyway, but I'd hate for him to take advantage of lenient enforcement to get a WR he doesn't deserve.
As I am a lwt who has raced a lot in the last few years I can tell you categorically that the weigh-in procedures are not strict for us old-sters at most satellite races. ( I have not been to Chicago or Detroit )
This is why Monsieur de Rangé bombs at all the big regattas ever since C2 tightened its standards (post 2003): He can't make legit. weight that close to start time & still have time to rehydrate.

I was hoping he'd make good on his promise last fall to forget about weight issues and just row his best time. I bet he could break 6:40 if he did.

Go for it Rich! Let's see what you've got for max speed at any weight :idea: B)

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by macroth » February 2nd, 2011, 10:26 am

Uh, ranger? Hey, raannnnger?


Are you aware that you are racing THIS WEEKEND in Detroit? Saturday, Feb. 5th? Not March 5th? :lol: :lol:

Too bad it's not a CRASH-B qualifier either. :roll:
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 2nd, 2011, 10:53 am

mikvan52 wrote:As I am a lwt who has raced a lot in the last few years I can tell you categorically that the weigh-in procedures are not strict for us old-sters at most satellite races.
Duh.

I repeat.

I have raced at Chicago twice.

The weigh-in for my race is _one_ hour before I race.

This is only _half_ the official time, two hours.

At WIRC and BIRC, weigh-ins are _two_ hours before you race.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 2nd, 2011, 10:58 am

For WIRC:
WIRC Website wrote:
Competitors racing as a Lightweights or Coxswains must weigh-in between one and two hours BEFORE racing, no exceptions. Please bring the ARC to the weigh-in. Please note that the weigh-in area is open from 7:00am until one hour before the final Lightweight event, but entrants may only weigh in during their assigned weigh in time (for 1 hour beginning 2 hours before their assigned race time). Athletes who fail to weigh in will still row on their assigned erg at their originally assigned time; only their results will be moved (into the Open category of their event). N.B. Coxswains who fail to weigh in will be allowed to weigh in to have their results moved into the appropriate Lightweight category.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by macroth » February 2nd, 2011, 10:59 am

Duh.

You misattribute. Again.

Pro tip: if you just click on the "quote" button at the top right corner of a post, it will insert the text and the correct author, automatically. These computing machines, they're like magic!
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 2nd, 2011, 11:01 am

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