Ranger's training thread

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by lancs » January 29th, 2011, 7:29 pm

Jeez, even I didn't see a DNS from our favourite weasel this time. He wasn't even trying to make weight was he?!

Very much looking forward to hearing the excuse for this one....

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by bellboy » January 29th, 2011, 7:30 pm

Im sure somebody had dns. I thought he would at least give it a crack. strange.very strange.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Steve G » January 29th, 2011, 7:30 pm

2 B a motofiller wrote:Indianapolis: DNS(start)

The TSO was there. I arrived around 9 am and from the looks of it (buckets of sweat) he had been there awhile. Building opened at 8:00 am. He kept walking the erg forward quite a bit while warming up. Lots of RWB. No jumping rope or biking the kinectic. could have been any easy paddle for him -- winner was 6'47".
A bit after 10:00 am, he stopped, picked up his gear and left the building. DNS. insufficient muscle grease? did not see his sweep technique, which I was interested in seeing.

Paul Randall did show and the current >90 world record holder qualified for Boston with a time somewhere around 10'50". Congrats to him. Until the next race I guess.
Well, how long before he posts his excuses, cant blame travel, trying to make weight, dehydration, no muscle grease, leaves on the line. Perhaps it was because he had some competition and scrutiny?

Cue, stroke not set, still learning new DF, technique blah blah blah.
Shades of BIRC 2004, flew across the pond, warmed up and guess what, didnt race, gifted me a bronze though.
10 more years of training to come for the 70s Worlds best next.

Go back to max drag, hauling anchor and guess what, good results!
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by goblin » January 29th, 2011, 7:33 pm

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by BrianStaff » January 29th, 2011, 8:17 pm

600+ mile round trip...for a DNS...wtf?

Weight is not his problem, so what does he tell his wife?

Zero mental strength and he has serious problems.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by jliddil » January 29th, 2011, 8:18 pm

Another fine example to those starting out of how to conduct yourself and "participate". Why try when you know you will fail?

296 miles Ann Arbor to Indianapolis. Time spent driving. Wear and tear on car. Gas burned, carbon emissions. When the tough gets going the pathetic DNS.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Nosmo » January 29th, 2011, 9:42 pm

Anyone need any more evidence that the guy has serious mental problems?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by macroth » January 30th, 2011, 3:24 am

Nosmo wrote:Anyone need any more evidence that the guy has serious mental problems?
Problems that are obviously aggravated by these threads. Maybe if we block his access to the US and UK C2 forums so he can stop embarrassing himself online, the symptoms will subside and he'll find a way to go sub 7 this year?
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by emccorm » January 30th, 2011, 3:49 am

Ive been offline for a couple of days. Must admit i hadnt thought a DNS was possible. Rangers new training sequence, D......N........S, D........N..........S, D.........N.............S.


Does a man show up and not even have a go? Not where i come from.

what a joker.

Cannot wait to hear the excuse. Did a heartlidge?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by hjs » January 30th, 2011, 4:31 am

2 B a motofiller wrote:Indianapolis: DNS(start)

The TSO was there. I arrived around 9 am and from the looks of it (buckets of sweat) he had been there awhile. Building opened at 8:00 am. He kept walking the erg forward quite a bit while warming up. Lots of RWB. No jumping rope or biking the kinectic. could have been any easy paddle for him -- winner was 6'47".
A bit after 10:00 am, he stopped, picked up his gear and left the building. DNS. insufficient muscle grease? did not see his sweep technique, which I was interested in seeing.

Paul Randall did show and the current >90 world record holder qualified for Boston with a time somewhere around 10'50". Congrats to him. Until the next race I guess.

Again ! :lol: :lol: Loser

He ofcourse Knew that he was not able to get an ok ish result out of this race, so he would have pulled a very mediocre Heavy result, all his excuses about being slow due to his having to make weight would have gone out of the window. :P

father time is speaking and very loud and clear.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by emccorm » January 30th, 2011, 8:10 am

c'mon ranger. I can see you there. what happened? sandshoe blowout? or u just realised u were full of sh*t?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » January 30th, 2011, 8:14 am

First point.

Training is best done from the top down, from the FM to the HM to 60min to 10K to 30min to 6K to 5K to 2K tp 1K to 500m.

Second point.

Everyone should be able to row a FM at 22-24 spm and their natural stroking power.

Rowing well for a lightweight is 13 SPI.

So, if you are a lightweight and row well, you should be able to row along for 2.5 hours at, say, 1:45 @ 23 spm, stready state, with a middlin' UT1 HR.

I am certainly not there yet, but that 1:45 @ 23 spm (my "Streamroller" rowing) feels better and better every day, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if I get all the way to a FM with it.

A FM @ 1:45/2:28 would best the Open lwt FM WR of 2:29:56 by two minutes.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » January 30th, 2011, 8:21 am

Yea.

Sorry about Indy, guys.

I just didn't feel ready to race.

So I didn't.

In order to feel fully ready to race, I need to do more rowing at 119 df. and high rates (30 spm-40 spm).

I have a good feel for what I can do with my "Steamroller" rowing at 23 spm and 119 df. and my "Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy"" rowing at 26 spm and 119 df., but I am still a little lost at 119 df. and higher rates.

As I was warming up at Indy, it seemed to me that the only way I would have felt comfortable racing was to do 26 spm, but I really didn't feel like wasting my time and energy racing at such a low rate, even though I might well have been able to hold 13 SPI and do 1:41/6:44.

I guess I am just a bit tired of racing unprepared, and perhaps this change of heart is permanent.

There is really no reason to do my training rows at race venues.

So, maybe I'll just do these rows at home from now on, and save the race venues for when I am fully prepared to race.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by emccorm » January 30th, 2011, 8:23 am

You just got very boring.

End of thread.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » January 30th, 2011, 8:29 am

emccorm wrote:You just got very boring.

End of thread.
Yes, other people's training is boring.

So why don't you just concentrate on your own?

I am already one of the best ergers in the history of the sport.

I already have three WR rows, and am now trying to get better.

To get as good as I am, you have a long row to hoe.

Why not get at it?

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