Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

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[ranger]

But unless you rank something while you're still 59 there is no possibility you can be one of the 40-59 leaders in 2010-11.

I will be racing at both BIRC and WIRC, in addition to a number of WIRC qualifiers and other post-WIRC races (Chicago, St. Catharines, etc.).

That should do it, for both the 55s and 60s rankings.

In the male rankings, 40-64, my guess would be that no one has ever finished a year as a "leader" in two age and weight divisions.

Am I right about that?

And then there is this:

If I indeed end up pulling 6:16 for 2K, then I will probably also end up a (de facto) leader in four other age and weight divisions--the 40s lwts, 50s lwts, the 55s hwts, and the 60s hwts.

In other words, if I indeed end up pulling 6:16 for 2K, I will probably end up a (de facto) leader in _all_ of the male age and weight divisions, 40-64, except the 40s and 50s heavyweights.

ranger

[NavigationHazard]

What part of the present tense do you continue to fail to apprehend? You are not now an age-group leader. It was fraudulent to have asserted that you are.

[ranger]

What part of the present tense do you continue to fail to apprehend? You are not now an age-group leader. It was fraudulent to have asserted that you are.

Given the arc of training and racing in a season, age-group leaders in indoor rowing can only be determined at the end of April.

On the erg, now is the time for training, not racing.

Racing on the erg is done in the late fall and winter.

ranger

[mikvan52]

"Skulling" with ranger:

age-group leaders in indoor rowing can only be determined at the end of April.

Welcome to " Destination Procrastination "

What part of the word "leading" (as in a state of being) does ranger not understand?
Poetic license, I surmise....

Rich is the only guy I know who thinks he can lead in a competition w/o starting.

[ausrwr]

In addition to 10 x 2K, any of the other Zatopek workouts would also be great here in August, leading up to my 2K trial on September 1st, although to meet my 2K target of 6:16, I will have to do these Zatopek workouts three seconds per 500m faster than I did in the fall of 2003.

So, that means:

80 x 250, 1:33 @ 36 spm (12 SPI), paddle a 250 inbetween.

40 x 500m, 1:36 @ 32 spm (12 SPI), paddle a 500m inbetween.

20 x 1K, 1:39 @ 30 spm (12 SPI), paddle a 1K inbetween.

ranger

They would be great, but you're not going to do any of them, and you're not going to do a 2k trial on the 1st of September.

[ranger]

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As it turns out, there are nice venues for OTW rowing, all within a few miles of my cottage here at the tip of Door County, even in high winds, of whatever direction and force.

For North winds, Rowley's Bay and the Mink River Estuary are calm and protected.

For West winds, like today, Europe Bay and Newport Bay are calm and protected.

For East winds, Ellison Bay is calm and protected.

For South winds, Garret Bay, Hedgehog Harbor, and Wisconsin Bay are calm and protected.

For calm days with no wind, Europe Lake is best, given that there is not even any boat traffic there in the early morning.

ranger

[Sir P]

Hi Rich, long time no speak. How is the training going? You still "rowing with breaks" any closer to that 6:16 yet.

All the best.

Phil

[ranger]

They would be great, but you're not going to do any of them

Sure, I will.

_Very_ solid 1:36 @ 32 spm this morning.

When I do 500m, 1:36 @ 32 spm, my HR is still well below my anaerobic threshold (172 bpm).

ranger

[ausrwr]

They would be great, but you're not going to do any of them

Sure, I will.

_Very_ solid 1:36 @ 32 spm this morning.

When I do 500m, 1:36 @ 32 spm, my HR is still well below my anaerobic threshold (172 bpm).

ranger

So you did 40*500 this morning at that pace? Care to provide any evidence that you did? Even one...

Didn't think so.

[ranger]

So you did 40*500 this morning at that pace?

Heck no.

But there are no barriers to full race preparation now.

I am pulling 12 SPI--across the board--at 120 df., with good OTW technique.

I have no problems with working hard.

I like to work hard.

My problems have been with technique.

At least on the erg, those problems are now solved.

ranger

[ausrwr]

So you did 40*500 this morning at that pace?

Heck no.

But there are no barriers to full race preparation now.

I am pulling 12 SPI--across the board--at 120 df., with good OTW technique.

I have no problems with working hard.

I like to work hard.

My problems have been with technique.

At least on the erg, those problems are now solved.

ranger

There's only one barrier to these workouts for you.

That's that you can't do them. So you won't do them.

[ranger]

Sure, I'll have to work up to 40 x 500m, 1:36 @ 32 spm.

But there is no barrier now to this happening.

8 x 500m, 1:36 @ 32 spm predicts a 2K under the 55s lwt WR.

20 x 500m, 1:36 @ 22 spm predicts a 2K under the 50s lwt WR.

40 x 500m, 1:36 @ 32 spm predicts a 2K under the 40s lwt WR.

So, the milestones that I will achieve along the way during this build up to 40 reps will be exciting to reach, and surpass, reach, and surpass, reach, and surpass.

ranger

[NavigationHazard]

It's perhaps worth pointing out that 80 x 250m r36 @ 1:33 pace is 20k total work meters in 62 minutes total work duration. Paddling a 250 after each at, say, 2:30 pace r20 would add 20k total "recovery" meters in 100 minutes. That's 40k total rowing distance in 162 minutes, or 2:42. Overall that's 2,195m shy of a full marathon, at an average 2:01.5 pace. And it would be way harder than rowing 40k at a steady-state 2:01.5, not least because you'd have to average 28 spm for the better part of 2 3/4 hours.

To put this lunatic proposal for a training session in perspective, the MHW 60+ record for a continuous marathon is TJ Oesterling's 2:40.12.4 (1:53.9 pace). For MLW 60+ it's Malcom Fawcett's 2:47:45.7 (1:59.3 pace).

Since it's never going to be attempted by HDPE von Manbatt, let alone done, I suppose it's moot.

Fraud.

[ranger]

10K OTW, after 15K on the erg.

I took "Windhover" to Europe Bay again.

Strong northwest winds made things interesting.

ranger